saskjayfan

yes...because the CFL has zero talent...I get it..lol. I prefer the rules in the cfl....it's a better game. I went to sold out labour day game with 45k fans..I guess that doesn't qualify as a professional sport...but whatever it was...it was pretty entertaining and I had fun.

I think a better way of looking at it is 23 mil per season for 2 years of Fielder and the contract fielder signed allowed them to get kinsler for another 4 years at 23 mil per season....they do have a 7 mil option on kinsler for a 5th year though.....not exactly great value either way you look at it...

Argo's vs ticats game was great....football is a great sport...action packed back and forth excitement of the CFL is a yummy banana split..what's not to like...and the game day experience is fantastic....ok...I go to Rider games...maybe the argos game day experience is not so great..lol

creative accounting aside....the jays like I said probably generate 50 to 60 mil for rogers on a local level....not entirely sure what they get from tv revenues from the league...but mofo said it's an additional 25 mil over and above what they currently get.....81 games of revenue from ticket sales..merchandising....The jays are doing fine....a winning team would have the opportunity to drive the local tv revenues the most I would think...

no...I was talking specifically to per game tv ratings...which tv contracts are based on. The CFL will show 86 games next yea with the inclusion of Ottawa to the league and Rogers shows 162....so almost double the games....the 40 mil tsn pays for the CFL should translate to basically double the worth for mlb...but jays games have less viewers than the cfl games...and the grey cup draws huge numbers..so that one game counts as 10 games....so the jays contract should probably be valued at 50 to 60 mil.... http://www.cfl.ca/article/cfl-on-tsn-and-rds-a-ratings-winner As far as merchandising revenue the Riders are third behind the leafs and the habs....but then the riders sell more than half the merchandising revenue in the entire CFL...

well the CFL outdraws the Jays....so probably 50 or 60 mil.....which isn't too shabby..

The Jays can say whatever they want about the Canadian market but there is no way the local contract is worth 10 million. TSN is paying 40 million a season starting next year to the CFL for 86 games. Rogers shows 162 games a year and the contract is worth 10 mil.....

the jays were never going to get profar....so chill out dude..

Porcello is a head case...has 2 years of before he's a free agent and you want to trade buehrle, our entire bullpen plus nolin for 2 years of porcello......thanks but no thanks...

yup you rarely find obsessive personalities on sports message boards..lol I prefer the new thread.....I think Johnson will have a good season...but not sure where his health is at...

All the Jays have to do is trade happ and jpa to free up some salary....sign Kawasaki to a minor league deal....have Kawasaki the most likely Japanese citizen on the planet negotiate a contract with Kuroda for a one year 18 mil and overpay for ruiz on a 2 year deal....2 years 20 mil...8 and 12.. reyes rasmus ee bautista lind ruiz melky lawrie izzy gose, kawa/goins, thole, sign right handed bat Kuroda dickey morrow buehrle McGowan/hutch/drabek/stroman/romero... may as well have buehrle give his pal konerko a shout and have him some over for 1 year 2 mil....deal.

I just puked in my mouth a bit. Happ better not be in the rotation

I don't get the Lind hate. He's a dh and his job is to hit. Given the league declining bop and power numbers he had a great season last year. What's wrong with a .357 bop and an .854 ops

maybe it's a thread to justify keeping adam lind....357 obp .854 OPS....well above league averages last year...

I can't pretend to have any knowledge of Johnson's medical records. Obviously he has injury history, but this year was the culmination of a bunch of minor injuries, not major issues. If Johnson at present date is as healthy as one in his situation can be then the Jays should do everything they can to resign Johnson to a one year 9 to 10 mil deal and save the money to sign a catcher. If you don't even make an offer(assuming his health is reasonable) it just shows that you completely misjudged the talent in the first place, which means AA should be fired. I think he should be fired anyways. Johnson is going to pitch a lot better next year...even looking at last year he was one of the most unlucky pitchers in baseball(not saying he didn't pitch poorly)...his upside risk reward is quite attractive on a one year deal. AA is more likely to spend 14 mil per year for 4 years on a pitcher with far greater risk reward and on a guy who will never be a number one vs going after tanaka who is a risk but significant upside.. Option one would be to go all in on Tanaka. Option 2 I would do my best to sign Johnson for 1 year 9 mil...I'd do my best to trade happ and izturis for scrap...you obviously can't get rid of Romero..but it would be nice if you could..and I'd put all that into the most glaring issue of a catcher...you need someone who is decent defensively and a veteran who can call games...personally with our budget I would be after Ruiz....Roll the dice moving McGowan to the rotation and see where you are at with drabek, Hutchinson, Romero, Stroman..etc....You don't need those guys at the beginning of the year, but injuries will happen and you should be able to find one or two to fill the back end of your rotation....you need to have some of your internal guys to come through your system. We aren't the Yankees.

St. Louis was 11th in WAR.....they missed the I jerk off to fangraphs world series. WAR firstly has no standardized calculation and two has extremely high margins of error within some of the calculations that contribute to WAR. This seems to be the thing many don't acknowledge. Anyone who has taken post secondary stats should realize this. Yet, so many on here will give you a defacto 100% iron clad opinion on a player...all they have to do is google the players fan graphs war and done....you guys would all make perfect GMs because you have heard of fangraphs.....WAR is not without any merit or without limitiations...when it pertains to a bench guy like Derosa it's useless imo...yet you guys use it to declare AA is a moron which is ridiculous. AA is a moron because he put his faith in JPA as the teams catcher...because he signed maicer, traded gomes.....but not because he picked up derosa's option.

The Angels in 2012 lead the league in WAR by a wide margin and missed the playoffs, while the orioles finished 24th in WAR just behind the blue jays who finisihed 23rd in WAR...and they made the playoffs....these aren't projections..these are after the fact calculated numbers.....yeah...WAR is completely reliable....or maybe not so much..

The sox also had more war than the orioles last year and won 69 games....I think you get more cumulative wins by putting more money to players who will actually play and less money to the bench players when you are on a budget...if you are the Yankees...sure go spend 5 mil on a guy who will get 70 to 100 at bats..

we need better starting pitching and better starting positional play...I could care less who the players are who are going to get less than 100 at bats in the season...and I'm looking for different things out of these players than the starters....I might want a speed guy, a power bat a veteran guy a defensive specialist...it all depends on what you are lacking.....this team lacks leadership. 750k for a veteran is nothing...who are you going to get to play for that...even Kawasaki was going to cost more....name me another veteran guy who posted .733 OPS that you can get for 750k.....it's not going to happen... You have a pool of money...it's not unlimited like the Yankees....there's a budget...you can spend 4 mil on a bench player and 10 mil on a staring pitcher...or 13.25 mil on a starter and 750K on a bench player.....I'll choose the latter every time...especially when you are getting the leadership derosa brings...and the red sox had 69 wins last year...bringing in solid chemistry veteran guys worked for them.

CHEMISTRY, CHEMISTRY, CHEMISTRY.....every player uses this word in his interview after winning the world series....and you don't understand why it's important to bring Derosa back..If Fangraphs had a category for leadership you guys would be all over Derosa, but since there is no statistical measure for the intangibles Derosa brings you guys can't comprehend why it's important to have a guy like him on your team, but that doesn't mean it's not important.

War is voodoo science...you guys speak as though it's gospel.....It is not standardized and has wild margins of error for defensive statistics...I'll take Derosa and his leadership and offense any day of the week....Derosa played hurt for a few years....If Derosa can post a .700+OPS in 100ish or less at bats...he's my man. Derosa is a 4.2 war psychologist....

Are you guys serious....what 25th man on any team in the mlb making 750k a year is a difference maker and a positive war player? Deroso posted an above average .733 OPS for the last bench guy on a roster....he likely won't get half the at bats he had this year assuming the jays don't get similar amounts of injuries. The Jays already have 120 million dollars committed....so are you going to sign for 750k in baseball who's going to be a positive war player? Or do you want to commit 4 million dollars to that 25th player....sure let's spend 3 million dollars more on a player who won't play and shave that amount off a the amount we have to spend on a starter who will be asked to be a regular contributor...that makes a whole lot of sense. How is picking up derosa's option a bad thing. He played well this year, he adds intangibles and who are you going to get for 750k who is going to be better...

Rogers was down almost 3%...so.....more like a pitcher worth 1/5th the cost of cliff lee..lol

yeah and the continuous rebuild is getting amazing prospects...all we need is 6 or 7 of those prospects to come together at the same time to make a run...and we invariably get one to 2 pieces come together and we go out and get some vets and fail.....we've been in a perpetual rebuild situation for 20 years....Tampa has been able to pull together a rotation of ridiculous talent of top end starters for the last several years...but it's not that easy to do.

The biggest thing I got from this is that Murphy was forced on Farrell and Mottola was forced on Gibby. Gibby wasn't allowed to get his guy from the get go. A GM should hire a manager and let him fill out his staff. It's not that Motolla isn't a good coach, but gibby needs a guy who fits in with his philosophies and style of management. AA tends to micro manage, especially in areas where he is clearly out of his depth. The problem is AA...plain and simple. I don't think he's the worst GM in the world...he's done good and bad..but it's time to move on.