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The Orioles Hangout so far today.

Why would the O's want to take him out?

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J.A. Happ > Ted Lilly

Well this season yes, and last year with Texas he was quite lucky. But with the Brewers between 2009-2012, he was really good and was considered one of the better young arms in the game. He kinda has fallen flat the last couple of seasons (K/9 decreased since then, I'm assuming his velocity as well?), though it's fascinating since he's only 30 and that a pitcher with his stuff before can decline at such an early age.

Yovani Gallardo used to be good with the Brewers when he first came up, and isn't that old (only 30). Why has he sucked the past two-three seasons?

Rogers Centre is in a perfect location in comparison to some other ballparks down in the States. For example, Yankee Stadium, Citi Field, Dodger Stadium, Anaheim, Citizen's Bank are in the middle of nowhere and there aren't many things around before/after the games such as bars/restaurants etc. Still, mainly high attendance is due to the teams success on the field more than anything.

There was a lot of buzz surrounding the team in 2002, with Eric Hinske winning ROY and some young talent breaking through like Josh Phelps, Orlando Hudson, Vernon Wells and Roy Halladay. Things were looking promising. 2003: was a good season, and I admit was a fun season to watch. They had a great lineup led by both Delgado and Wells, along with a decent supporting cast. Doc won the Cy Young that season, Escobar looked like he was emerging as a solid SP (sucks he was a FA after). A lot of rookies from 2002 underperformed like Hinske and Phelps unfortunately. 2004: was a mess and that was the first season with the new uniforms. Lineup was riddled by injuries, the rotation was awful, all the BP arms JPR brought in imploded, Doc missed a lot of time as well. 2005: which looked like it could have been worse (with Delgado leaving a FA) actually wasn't that bad. The 2005 pitching was solid. Doc looked like he was in the best form that season, and a lock for the AL Cy Young, until Kevin Mench. Towers, Chacin and Scott Downs pitched well in the second half after Doc got injured, and the bullpen was solid as well. The lineup was pretty bad though. 2006: the Jays had one of the best teams under the JPR regime. They had a huge offseason, bringing in Burnett, Ryan, Glaus, Overbay and Molina. The lineup was stacked in 2006 - Glaus and Wells were kind of reminiscent of Delgado/Wells in 2003. Overbay looked like he was an emerging star, Rios finally had his breakout, Reed Johnson posted a 4.4 WAR and was one of the better leadoff hitters in the AL, Catalanatto had his best season with the Jays as well. Pitching wise, the rotation was a mess: missing Burnett for the first two months was tough, Towers and Chacin couldn't repeat 2005 and were garbage, they didn't have any depth to call upon. Defensively as well, Adams was terrible, and Glaus was a statue at the hot corner. 2007: Things weren't that great at the beginning when they had a rotation that consisted of Chacin, Victor Zambrano, Tomo Ohka, John Thompson, Josh Towers for the first two months of the season. BJ Ryan got injured which was a big blow, though they still had a solid BP surprisingly with the emergence of Jeremy Accardo lol. Gotta say, it was fun watching both Dustin McGowan and Shaun Marcum develop and come into their own as pitchers, which made 2008 look very promising of a rotation featuring Doc, Burnett, McGowan and Marcum. Lineup wise, Rios and Hill both had fantastic years, Frank Thomas was pretty solid people tend to forget, and Matt Stairs came out of nowhere. Injuries played a part as well (Glaus was banged up, Overbay broken wrist, Wells became injury prone, Reed Johnson battled injuries and sucked). 2008: the Jays in my opinion this season had the best pitching staff that comes to mind. I always said if they managed to make the postseason, with the way Doc and Burnett were pitching, they could have been dangerous. I was really excited for Opening Day that season: a rotation that featured Doc, a healthy Burnett, McGowan, and Marcum had a lot of promise. The lineup was non-existent however unfortunately (Thomas sucked, they were running out Brad Wilkerson, Shannon Stewart, Kevin Mench, David Eckstein, Rod Barajas). Overbay never returned to form. A big hit was losing McGowan and Marcum to injuries, which didn't make things look that bright for 2009 on the pitching side, especially with Burnett opting out. 2009: was a depressing year, with the Doc trade rumours, awful pitching staff. Was fun watching Adam Lind and Aaron Hill with the seasons they had, as well as Marco Scutaro. Jose Bautista had that awesome September, the Jays did get EE and Zach Stewart (who everyone was raving about) for Scott Rolen. And I gotta admit, it was funny how so many posters on here thought Randy Ruiz was the next Babe Ruth lol. The 2000's weren't that bad as many people make them out to be and as a Jays fan, there were some good times and bad times. The Jays played in a tough era, where the AL East was dominated by both the Yankees and the Red Sox. As well, they had some bad luck with injuries and some key players underperform which definitely hindered their success at times. Overall, the fans that say 2015 was their only best year are correct to some extent, though I guess they just became fans and hopped on the bandwagon that summer. I've been following the Jays since the early 2000's, as many other prominent posters on here have, so we've seen the good and the bad. Yes there was some good, though the casuals never flocked the Rogers Centre and never were behind the team. They missed some good baseball (watching Delgado, Wells in his prime, Doc being the best pitcher of the decade), which was their loss. So for us fans who have been following the Jays, the 2015 and 2016 seasons are even more rewarding than it is for casual fans who have just hopped on the bandwagon, as we actually appreciate the current team on the field and the baseball that is being played. Sorry for the long rant, but I hate bandwagon fans who have just hopped on board last season! GO JAYS GO!!!!

How much would Jake McGee cost? Maybe a move out of Colorado and back to the AL East could do him good. Guy was an elite reliever with Tampa.

You still see a Carlos Beltran/Victor Martinez type deal as the max he could get?

It was straight up?

Can Dickey stick?

Sounds good, I'll let you know if I make it down.

I might be down there as well. Should meet for some beers after or beforehand.

I sent you a wise offer in the LOD.

I blame John Gibbons for this.

Well it was good while it lasted. It was a pleasure doing the GDT's these past couple of days. Hope to be back soon!

Is that really him? I'm going to have nightmares for a month.

Ty Taubenheim did a solid job as well in 2006 filling in. The Jays had so many options that season!

Ted Lilly was s*** in 2005, how did he even start the 2006 season in the rotation?!

I was contemplating about going down today, though for some reason cheapest seats on Stubhub were like $28 bones. Plus with the lineup Gibby put up today and with Dickey pitching, I'm glad that I decided to not go. Looking forward to going to the game on Friday. If anyone has extra tickets they are looking to sell, send me a PM.

Who else did the Jays really have in 2006?

Towers at least put together a 3.6 WAR season in 2005. Dickey's best was 2 WAR last season.

It's disgusting.

San Diego Padres 43-58 vs. Toronto Blue Jays 57-44 Pitching Matchup: SD: Perdomo (4-4, 6.93 ERA) vs. TOR: Dickey (7-11, 4.44 ERA) Melvin Upton Jr. began a three-game series with the Padres, and he'll finish it with the Blue Jays. Toronto acquired the veteran outfielder from San Diego on Tuesday morning for Class A pitching prospect Hansel Rodriguez. Upton made his Blue Jays debut as a pinch-hitter Tuesday night, but he's expected to be in the starting lineup for the first time on Wednesday afternoon. Upton was in Toronto with his Padres teammates when the deal was announced, but the transition was more complicated than just walking to the other side of the field. Upton had to make the hour-plus drive to Queenston, Ontario, which borders Lewiston, N.Y., to regain entry into Canada under a different work visa. "It's a little different," Upton admitted Tuesday evening. "It's really not something you'd expect to happen, but I think changing clubhouses, being on the other side, playing the team you were just on, it's, I don't know. I don't really know how I feel about it, but I'm definitely excited to be here. Good group of guys in a pennant race, and we have a chance to win." Upton is expected to get the start in the outfield when Toronto knuckleballer R.A. Dickey takes the mound against San Diego's Luis Perdomo. Toronto's start originally belonged to right-hander Marco Estrada, but he'll now pitch Friday against the Orioles instead. That will give Estrada an extra couple of days' rest and have him match up against division-rival Baltimore. The 31-year-old Upton was an everyday player for the Padres, but his role is expected to be a little different in Toronto. He'll predominantly start against lefties but will also receive some occasional playing time in the outfield when Jose Bautista, Michael Saunders or Kevin Pillar needs a day off. "I've thought about it, but man, it's part of the game," Upton said when asked about facing his former team. "You rarely see it happen in the same series, but I think, as professionals, we know that anything is a possibility. Luckily, it's only for two games and we don't have to play them again." Padres Lineup: CF T. Jankowski RF W. Myers DH M. Kemp LF A. Dickerson 2B R. Schimpf C C. Bethancourt SS A. Ramírez 1B B. Wallace 3B A. Rosales Blue Jays Lineup: DH Jose Bautista ® 3B Josh Donaldson ® 1B E. Encarnacion ® LF M. Upton Jr. ® CF Kevin Pillar ® 2B Devon Travis ® RF E. Carrera (L) SS Darwin Barney ® C Josh Thole (L) Game Notes: • The Padres have homered in 24 consecutive games, a franchise record and the most in the Major Leagues this season. The Rangers hold the all-time record with 27 straight in August and September of 2002. • Blue Jays third baseman Josh Donaldson, who opened the scoring with a two-run homer on Tuesday, has reached base in 50 of his past 52 games. • Perdomo has baffled hitters with his sinker of late, and his 62 percent ground-ball rate is the highest in the Majors over the past 30 days.