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Going to a Christmas Party tomorrow night at a Japanese steak house with Teppanyaki tables. Could be a sign.

Ross Atkins is in a Japanese Izakaya right now doing sake shots with Ohtani and his reps!

Ross Atkins is in Tokyo.

LMAO this is hilarious!

Kelenic actually showed some promise in the early part of the season. Kelenic is still just 24-years-old and has great tools and upside. Rather than trotting out a low upside guy like Rosario in LF, at least Kelenic has some potential. Braves can afford to roll the dice on him since he'll likely be hitting in the lower part of the lineup anyways, so no pressure. If the Braves could fix him, could be a steal. Worst case, his floor is likely a 1.5 - 2 WAR corner outfielder. Marco Gonzales is meh and nothing sexy. But he can provide innings and rotation depth. Sucks taking on his contract but it's only $7.5M for one year. Evan White was really highly touted coming up. Mariners locked him up to an extension of 6 years, $24M with two club options back in 2020 haha. Maybe a change of scenery and the Braves could help him.

Give me other examples Spanky! Lets go! Put your money where your mouth is!

Again, give me other examples during his tenure with Atlanta where he hasn't managed the 40 man roster well? I provided reasons why the Braves made those trades. At the end of the day, guys like Soroka, Wright, Lopez etc. aren't making a difference on a team like the Atlanta Braves and the objective of the trade was to clear space on the 40-man roster. Secondly, their value didn't drop drastically from last offseason to this offseason. They were going to be non-tendered if they weren't traded and the other 29 teams knew that. Give it a rest.

Why do you even care so much about this Braves trade FFS? Geez you guys need to get a life! Braves will still be a 95-100 win team and one of the top teams in baseball next season. Also, they have already won a World Series in 2021. Flags fly forever!

Spanky just said it was too early to trade Soroka after not being healthy since 2019. I used Manoah as an example if he s*** the bed in 2024, and if Atkins traded him for pennies after or non-tendered him that would be asset mismanagement according to Spanky and Laika. I have no problem with the Jays giving Manoah another chance in 2024. No different than the Braves hoping Soroka could stay healthy and rebound after his surgeries. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Though Spanky said he was in favour to trade Manoah now before that happens.

Not looking to pick arguments with anyone and I don't put words in other people's mouth. All I pointed out was Atlanta's reasoning behind those moves. You then got all triggered when I said it wouldn't have been a bad idea for the Braves to keep Nicky Lopez if they could have as a backup middle infielder. You were the one who actually picked an argument.

If it was too early to trade Soroka, same applies to Manoah this offseason then according to you.

You can't read what I actually post. You need some courses in reading comprehension.

All I stated was that every team in baseball at some point runs assets into the ground and never trade them at the opportune time. AA has for sure, and never denied that. To say he's the only GM who runs assets into the ground, give me a break. Like I said if he does it "spectacularly and at volume" like Laika said, give me a list of those instances when he was with the Braves. You actually were becoming one of my favourite posters on this board who actually is rational in comparison to some of the shills on here. Don't know what I said that was so controversial but alright! Cheers!

You do hold a grudge against AA and his FO when he was here with the Jays. I wonder why... Have a nice weekend as well! Hope you're enjoying your victory lap!

Wait, so it's too quick to give up on Soroka, but you want the Jays to trade Manoah this offseason? I'm confused dawg!

I responded to Jim's comment about the Jay's selling out every game with Ohtani here. They will if they remain competitive and if Ohtani stays healthy. Don't know what is so controversial in stating that. Team success at the end of the day has the bigger impact on attendance. Doesn't matter which star players you have. If you aren't winning or competitive, that will impact attendance more than anything. I've stated many times I'm in favour of the Jays going after Ohtani and how it would be fantastic for the city and country overall. Also, I'm a realist and understand that signing him to a huge contract does come with some risk later on, especially if he just sticks as a DH/corner OF. That's with any big FA deal FFS!

What the F are you bickering about now? I responded to Jim's post about the comment he made on how every game would be filled to the rafters. I said if the Blue Jays are winning and if Ohtani stays healthy, for sure they likely sell out every game. What is wrong with that comment? If the Jays start to become a losing team and/or if Ohtani is hurt, every game won't be "filled to the rafters." Heck did the Angels sell out every game with both Ohtani and Trout? Did the Rangers sell out every game when they signed A-Rod to the biggest FA contract at the time? Even when the Jays had Rogers Clemens pitch, the SkyDome wasn't "filled to the rafters." At the end of the day, team success will impact attendance the most. If the Jays remain competitive and win between 90-100 games per season, shouldn't be a problem. If they become a 75-80 win team down the road, and Ohtani spends some time on the IL when he gets older, every game won't be "filled to the rafters." Don't understand why you're asking me what side of the rubber fence I fall on. You're an idiot.

I guess you and Laika still have nightmares of his Marlins deal in 2013. What other trades did he make with Atlanta that fit the bill of running assets into the ground? Since he does it "spectacularly and at volume" can't wait to see a huge list!

If the Blue Jays are winning and if Ohtani is healthy for sure!

He does but not going to mention why. All I said is that a lot of teams go through roster crunches and mismanage assets by either holding onto them for too long and not trading them at the opportune time. The Braves aren't the only team. Tell me how I should take the L on that one?

Probably can sign him for around $7-8M for one-year to split time between DH and LF. Could be the 2024 version of Brandon Belt.

Nah you just despise and hold a grudge against AA for something.

Yeah Rogers will make a lot of money off him, but we don't know the exact numbers and how much. We're not on the board of directors for Rogers who are crunching the numbers as we speak. Like I said I'm all for signing for Ohtani. Will definitely enjoy it and pop open an expensive bottle of Japanese whiskey if he signs here! If the contract is 10 + years at 50-60M AAV, it will be concerning considering he will be 30 next season and could only be possibly a DH/corner OF. If Ohtani does sign here, you have to go all in over these next two seasons when you have Bichette under club control, Ohtani still in his prime and Gausman in top form. You want to take advantage of the early years in Ohtani's contract. And like Glory said in his post, moving forward the Jays will need to step their player development game up so they have a pipeline of arms and players coming up at the end of this decade.

How about Nate Pearson who pretty much is worth nothing now? Should have traded him 3-4 years ago when he was a top prospect! If he's non tendered or traded for pennies this offseason, oh my! What about Vladdy if he turns out another 1 WAR season in 2024? Or Kirk if he doesn't bounce back? I hope Laika is as vocal and critiques this FO the same if they ride these assets to the point where they are worth nothing.

GM Chris Getz knew something the other 29 teams didn't. He's a genius for acquiring a 6 WAR infielder with 6 career home runs in close to 2000 PA's! Atlanta's phone should have been ringing off the hook!