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Any team that desperately needs an OF and who could eat most of his salary? Might be a challenge trade scenario where the Jays also take on a bad contract of another player/pitcher.

Volpe is still just 23. Wouldn't write him off as a productive bat just yet.

Obviously they wouldn't lol but it shows you that Berrios currently wouldn't even be worth SWR straight up. Just gotta hope this season is a blip on the radar and Berrios returns to being a 3-4 WAR pitcher for another couple of years.

One of Atkins strengths over the last couple of years has been signing veteran starters to short term deals. They can patch up the rotation easily if they traded Berrios. Let's just hope he doesn't sign Tanner Roark or Chase Anderson.

If they could trade Berrios, that would be ideal. Get rid of that crippling contract! Would prefer to keep Gausman and Bassitt around for 2025. Doubt they trade Yariel given they signed him to a 5 year deal last offseason.

Montgomery was pretty solid last year. 4.3 WAR last season and previous years had 2.7 and 3.2 WAR seasons. Kikuchi's career high was 2.6 WAR last season and before that was quite awful. Arguably, Montgomery at last years trade deadline was a better arm than Kikuchi at this trade deadline.

Yeah exactly. Also, he's only 23-years-old so there is likely some room for growth. Will be at league minimum in 2025 and 2026 as well, and won't be a FA until 2030. Right now, SWR is a more valuable asset than Jose Berrios given his age, years of control and the decline in Berrios performance. That Berrios contract is going to sting in a couple of years unless Berrios returns to his 2023 form.

Yeah 15 starts isn't enough time to judge the type of arm SWR could be. Concerns are the low K/9 (7.42) so he's not going to be anything flashy. Also, seems like he's just a 5 to 6 inning pitcher and can't get pushed anymore than that. Solid ERA (3.48) and FIP (3.86) so far and a 1.2 fWAR. Likely settles in as a No. 4/5 starter who possibly could get lucky the odd season and pitch to slight higher expectations. View him just as a 2 WAR type of arm. Berrios this season has only accumulated 0.3 fWAR with a 6.81 K/9 and a 5.07 xFIP. SWR has provided 4x more value so far this season. Moving forward given their ages and contract situations, would rather have SWR over Berrios. Obviously if we look at Berrios after the trade to the Jays in 2021 and in 2023, he looked like a very good and durable No. 2/3 starter and helped the Jays make Postseason runs in each of those seasons, whereas SWR wouldn't have. Right now, there are huge concerns with Berrios given his low K rate and high FIP. How long can his 3.76 ERA hide the fact on how bad he really has been this season? Gotta hope he bounces back in 2025 and returns to being a 3-4 WAR type of arm, especially with that contract he has.

The type of language used and intention isn't a joking matter. I don't care if they throw shots or jabs back at me, though not using or joking about something considered a sensitive matter.

It's a baseball forum geez.

Can't take a joke geez. You kept adding fuel to the discussion after that and even posted chat messages from Fantrax. I wasn't smack talking Bo at all haha. Never knew that pointing out his struggles this season and the fact that his offensive profile is similar to Javier Baez is smack talking him.

Kinda sad you're happy to see an MLB ballplayer getting injured, possibly break their hand. He's supposed to be back in the lineup tomorrow.

Mods. This should be a ban.

I'm not following you about the offer. You kept adding fuel to the conversation lol.

I explained that in a previous post. Given my position, I'm willing to roll the dice on a bounce back season from Bo. His struggles this season don't affect my team at all. Whereas someone who is contending, a struggling Bo isn't helping them and Correa as an upgrade given his results thus far, the league scoring settings and given his age, isn't a bad option to ponder.

Buddy you need to chill haha. No need to copy and paste a conversation on Fantrax. I don't understand what this proves lol.

Geez Spanky losing his cool haha. Chill brother! You're a stubborn GM to deal with sometimes. You have it in your head Bo is an elite fantasy superstar and always will be, even if there are signs of concern with his bat. Like Connor said, Bo is quite overrated anyways in rankings given they only account for 5x5. In a league that uses OBP, his value takes a bit of a hit and since he doesn't steal much, he has to pretty much hit above .300+ with 25-30 HR's to be considered an elite bat.

SWR doesn't get talked about much on here. He has had a really nice season so far for Minny. Looks like he could stick as a backend or mid-rotation starter.

He's not selling low on Bo. If anything, he would be getting a significant upgrade for this season + and avoid the risk of Bo becoming the next Javier Baez. Correa has been one of the top shortstops this season offensively and is still only 29. His health is the major knock against him. But when he's healthy, he's one of the elite bats at that position.

You're so stubborn.

Send me some offers Jay. You got an exclusive window before other managers start calling in haha.

Mid-season rankings for dynasty hardly change from pre-season lol. Never said straight up or expect that. You're making this more difficult than it really is lol. If I were in your shoes, I would be looking around to see what upgrades you can make over Bo at short. I would definitely take Correa + for Bo if I were a contending team. The ball is in your court if you want Correa. You need him this season more than I do.

Preseason dynasty ranks mean F all haha. You're trying to contend and Correa right now makes your lineup so much better as he's a huge upgrade offensively over what Bo has done so far. Correa this season: .305/.374/.508 with 11 HR and 45 RBI and a 148 wRC+ Bo is only four years younger and even when he's going right offensively, his low BB% are a point against him in this league. Sure if Bo returns to his previous form, his ranking is higher but there is also the concern he turns into a Javier Baez offensively.

NBA contracts are just insane. Rosters are small to begin with, and if you're one of the top players in a teams starting five, you're cashing in big.

My team isn't going anywhere this season haha so yes I would be okay with running out a struggling Bo and hope he bounces back in 2025 or 2026. You on the other hand are in win-now mode. Correa helps you this season and even moving forward as well. He's still only 29.