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He already has 88 service time days, so they don't need to manipulate him at all to avoid super 2. He would avoid it even if he broke camp with the team. For other readers, teams can avoid super 2 by limiting a player to less than ~130 days in their first season. Players who have less than 3.000 years of service time in an offseason (and therefore don't qualify for arb1) but more than ~2.130 (changes each year) qualify for super 2 and thus early arbitration. examples: Kris Bryant was kept down just long enough to make sure that he only got 171 days in year 1. He will be a super 2 player but the Cubs gamed an extra year of control out of him. I believe his agent has grieved this. The Cubs received an extra year of Kris Bryant, but they will pay for it in a somewhat hefty 4th arbitration year. Carlos Correa was called up in June and therefore got 119 days of service time in year 1. He won't be a super 2 player, and the Astros effectively received 119 "extra" days of Correa. --> with the Astros actually making a playoff run, the value that they milked from Carlos Correa is immense.

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I don't think it's clearly a service time rationale because I'm not sure that Pompey is necessarily good enough to warrant that type of manipulation. There could be other decent arguments for sending him out. Since they'd have to keep him down until July to gain that "year" of control, it's hard to do too. But I don't think it matters. If there are OF issues early on then they can just call him up, right? Pompey crushed A+ in 2014 (150 wRC+), crushed AA in 2015 (175 wRC+), and although he hit well in AAA in 2014 (137 wRC+) he has had major issues translating his pop to AAA. Sending him out could simply be a developmental decision.

~183 days in a season, roughly. 172 service time days = a service time year per the CBA. Pompey has 88 service time days so far. IF they can get lucky with Ceciliani, or Lake, or Brown, or health generally, and limit Pompey's service time to less than 84 days this year, then they can gain an extra year of control. Worth a shot? Of course, he'd end up a super 2 player in this scenario and they'd have to go to arbitration with him before 2019 (and then three more times). The ideal scenario in sending him down has him developing in AAA and the MLB team doing just fine without him. Then they can call him up early July for almost three full months of developed Dalton, supplementing a World Series run. Or, alternatively, they have a mature, developed trade chip that still has a full slate of team control. But if the 4th OF isn't cutting it then they can just call on Pompey.

Maybe if slash when Werth gets hurt.

He's also a Darrell, which is nice.

Hoffman is worth at least 3 Jon Harrises

Hoffman has poor command of a straight fastball today. Also, hanging a decent amount of curveballs.

Hoffman missing most of his spots by a foot+

I dunno, Venditte might be pretty good if he is used as more of a LOOGY. Minor league career: Left on left: 1.65 FIP, 2.72 BB/9, 12.04 K/9 Right on right: 3.84 FIP, 3.79 BB/9, 7.94 K/9 Girodo left on left: 1.35 FIP, 2.63 BB/9, 14.63 K/9

Is Venditte's stuff better from the left side?

Loup is really good. He was arguably elite last year. It was a classic case of 'reliever gets horribly unlucky in small sample size; looks terrible'

That might not be good news. Elbow go boom?

yea buddy

agreed. It's not a massive deal to clear the PMs every once in a while but the quote system is just gross

Most of the PM heavy users are in the fantasy and dynasty leagues. You bounce 5, 10, or 20 messages about a trade back and forth. Fills up fast.

you're right; gotta be Emilio

I haven't heard his name once this spring. Is he even in camp with the team? That might be even more random than giving the big 17 year old prospect a cup of spring coffee.

Yeah I think most of the people who PM would appreciate it. The storage capacity of PMs is very low right now too.

Guerrero !

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No, seriously, just take a minute to imagine a world where Mark Appel doesn't suck.

Just imagine the arsenal you'll be sitting on if he ever figures it out though.

Appel getting destroyed by the baby Jays: JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 1h1 hour ago Rowdy Tellez hit one of the longest doubles you'll see all year off David Hernandez. High off batter ' s eye in CF. Melky Mesa also 2b'd JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 59m59 minutes ago Sean Reid - Foley easy first 93-95 JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 57m57 minutes ago Now Mark Appel on mound after Nick Williams doubled off of Greene. Too much fun here. JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 51m51 minutes ago Mark Appel 91-94. Gave up a fly ball HR to Jon Berti struck out next batter then walked Roemen Fields. JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 48m48 minutes ago Anthony Alford draws his second walk in two innings. Appel struggling with control. JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 47m47 minutes ago A bloop single by Mesa and now Rowdy Tellez facing Appel with bases loaded. JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 44m44 minutes ago Appel struck out Tellez on a slider but then gives up a ground ball 2 RBI single for his 2nd and 3rd runs. JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 25m25 minutes ago Appel gets 2 quick outs in his 2nd inning. Then E and back to back hits as Anthony Alford drives in a run JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 15m15 minutes ago Because I was watching D.J. Davis single against Jimmy Cordero I missed J.P. Crawford doubling in two. JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 13m13 minutes ago Cordero was 93-97. Little wild. (Cordero, traded to the Phillies for Ben Revere last season) JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 12m12 minutes ago Roemen Fields makes a nice sliding catch in CF. A Fields - Alford OF doesn't allow much to fall in lf and cf. JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 8m8 minutes ago Rowdy Tellez just homered off Appel. No doubter. Ok some of the hits were bloop but Appel is getting rocked.

probably around 1%? maybe less?