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Not addressed to you specifically, but it's funny how player personalities get magnified and blown up to be completely unrealistic based on 1-2 news stories. People have been calling Greinke crazy/weak/a headcase for years because he had some anxiety issues. Armchair psychologist sports fans are hilarious. There are 1-2 players in the league that I'd say I've read enough bad things about to question whether or not they're crazy/bad people/a headcase.
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I thought Garza was on there for his spitting. I was OK with it.
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*allegedly
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I don't get the Romo/Samardzija/Herrera inclusions.
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Everyone but Cishek has an outside shot, but none of those guys are keepers.
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I believe the man said he's looking for a good closer.
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Yeah, they seem like one of the few teams who might have an interest in rostering him. Qualls might be done, but he was very good as recently as 2015. And even if he is done, we save $2.5M and are finished with the financial commitment after 2017.
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Smoak to Colorado for Chad Qualls. 2/8.5 for Smoak, and 1/6 for Qualls.
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I don't really understand where the 'BTS loves platoon guys' thing comes from. I've cycled through a lot of them during a retool in the DDL, but that would be like me posting about how much you love terrible players because you've had a lot of them during your DDL rebuild. In BORED I have Naquin, who was pretty valuable, and in LOD I have a very good offense with at least 7 guys who will play every day.
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Most likely
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Switch hitter with a career 105 wRC+ vs. RHP and 106 vs. LHP. Platoon guy.
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Would still like to move Asdrubal Cabrera. Guy hit 23 dongers with a 119 wRC+ last year, and plays this year at 31 (I mention that because I assumed he was like 36 up until the draft last year. Looking for an SP.
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It's crazy that the Chens, Samardzijas, Leakes and Kennedys of the world got bigger deals last year than people are projecting EE to get in a weak FA market.
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Not bad.
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I'm not saying I wouldn't want him, I'm saying he has too many issues for me to want to give up an asset like Osuna for him. The mediocre play, the injuries, and then possibly the worst reputation of any player in the league. There are a lot of hurdles to clear on the path to reaching his potential.
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Their reputations aren't close to the same. Few people in Toronto have anything bad to say about Bautista. There is every indication that Puig is disliked by his teammates, his coaching staff, and his management, in addition to having a terrible reputation with the media and other teams in the league. The simplest explanation for that is that he's a miserable prick.
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I'm sure he's a swell guy and everyone else in baseball is the real problem.
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Osuna is close to as valuable as Puig is projected to be, makes less money, and is controllable for a year longer. I might gamble him on Puig returning to 4-win form if performance was the only question mark he had, but he also happens to be one of the biggest pieces of s*** in baseball. I think if the Dodgers could get an asset like Osuna for him, Puig would have been traded before the 2016 playoffs. I don't think anything close to that valuable is on the table from anyone.
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Only 7 teams have added a trade block. Sad!
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Probably Toronto
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48 or so wins for a replacement-level team.
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Yeah, Bautista will likely have the bigger variance on his projection in 2017 than Valbuena + whatever the hypothetical 9M is spent on. That variance is more attractive to Toronto right now than the safer projection. If it's just the money we're talking about, I'd spend it on Bautista. The comp pick changes that for me. But we just have different ideas about the types of moves that we want to see made right now. You're interested in seeing the team do everything they can to win while Donaldson is here and the old guys are productive. I'm interested in seeing them take the foot off the gas a little bit to set up a sustainable winner.
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We never had a chance at an interesting discussion based on the way he decided to respond to my first post in this thread. That's on him, not me. I have no disagreements with anything baseball-related that you've said. I disagree with the conclusion that Bautista is clearly the better option, but it's not a $/WAR thing: I simply think that Valbuena (~2 wins) + the 9M (maybe Ziegler/Logan + Iannetta filling in spots that would otherwise be replacement-level under the current budget?) gets you most or all of the way to the wins that I expect Bautista to provide (2.5-3). And then you still have the comp pick. You can squabble all you want about it's value, but it does have real value, and based on everything that Shapiro and Atkins have said, I don't think they're prepared to toss it away to maybe make the team a few runs better in 2017.
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It's cute that you're coming to your buddy's defense, but I don't feel like you (or him for that matter) have read anything I've written with the intent to actually have a productive conversation. This conversation started with me saying that I, personally, would value Valbuena + 9M in payroll space, + the comp pick more than Bautista at 18M, based on what I know. I then supported that by saying that the league values the comp picks at around 10M. I opted not to make guesses at how Toronto is altering their value of the pick based on their spot on the win curve. I did that for two reasons: 1) that's irrelevant to my post about what I personally would do given the information I have, and 2) it's a complete guessing game. Had RJF said simply that he thinks Bautista is the better option given their spot on the win curve, without acting like my personal preference was asinine, that would have been valid. He didn't do that, and opted instead to act like an idiot. You're significantly more intelligent than him, so I don't expect that you'll have much of an issue with this.
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You don't make any sense. Why is Toronto's evaluation important here? You laughed at me for suggesting that Valbuena + 9M + pick is more valuable than Bautista at 18M. The only reason you would do that is if you believe the draft pick has no value (or almost no value). You're placing a value on the draft pick in saying that you'd prefer Bautista to Valbuena. The value you're choosing to place on it just happens to be much, much lower than the estimated market value. I don't know why you're using a random value in your evaluation. I suspect it's the result of wanting to be an internet contrarian.
