Blue Jays (Fisher) vs Yankees (Rodon): 5/21/26, 7:05pm

[Brownie19]

5 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Oh he'll hit cleanup today and then get DFA'd tomorrow for Lukes lol.

We know - you remind us daily...

[Terminator]

[Landry_25]

Ernie new yankee killer!! Pulled off a split with half the team injured, no offense lol and could have easily had 3 or a sweep!! Insane really. Waiting for Spencer arm to fall off but man I hope he keeps it going and stays healthy he’s unreal 

[jaysblue]

Toronto is 12–12 when Brandon Valenzuela starts at catcher. 

Blue Jays are 9–12 when Heineman starts behind the plate. When Tyler Heineman appears in the game at all, the Blue Jays are 11–16.

[Laika]

Cashman rage-dropped Spencer Jones and Yovanny Cruz after the game

Kek 

[John_Havok]

Not that anyone here needs another example of why pitcher Wins are stupid, the scorer gave Macko the W in the game and not Miles.

[Landry_25]

2 hours ago, John_Havok said:

Not that anyone here needs another example of why pitcher Wins are stupid, the scorer gave Macko the W in the game and not Miles.

Yeah unless you’re a starter going 5+ and rack up lots of wins it should be totally irrelevant. So foolish the way they determine this stuff 

[Stangstag]

4 hours ago, John_Havok said:

Not that anyone here needs another example of why pitcher Wins are stupid, the scorer gave Macko the W in the game and not Miles.

Nonsensical

[Brownie19]

15 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Nonsensical

Exactly why I suggest they should be removed from the sport.  Wins have always been nonsensical.  Teams win, players do not.

[Spanky__99]

8 hours ago, Laika said:

Cashman rage-dropped Spencer Jones and Yovanny Cruz after the game

Kek 

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, Brownie19 said:

Exactly why I suggest they should be removed from the sport.  Wins have always been nonsensical.  Teams win, players do not.

I think Laika was bang on by suggesting they should just use WPA for W's and L's, that makes perfect sense. These stats will never be abolished for league history reasons.

[Brownie19]

35 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

I think Laika was bang on by suggesting they should just use WPA for W's and L's, that makes perfect sense. These stats will never be abolished for league history reasons.

I suspect you're right, but I think that's a sh*tty reason. I guess there's no precedence of a stat being "removed", but we added stats like saves and we've modified the rules over the years to impact apples to apples comparison of various stats.

[Olerud363.354]

7 hours ago, John_Havok said:

Not that anyone here needs another example of why pitcher Wins are stupid, the scorer gave Macko the W in the game and not Miles.

That is crazy in a way.   If the starter doesn't go 5 it goes to the reliever who most effective and I guess held the lead at a key point.  Which Macko did, but Miles did more. 

I think the team should be able to designate the bulk guy, and the bulk guy gets the win if

a) enters with the lead

b) pitches most innings of any reliever, never gives up the lead, and no other reliever gives up the lead

This would be honestly to keep guys like Lauer happy.  Need those guys to vulture some wins to stop them from yapping about coming in, in the second. 

Like closer and setup man, 'bulk guy' should just become an esteemed role (even if it is more like 5th starter who we don't quite trust).  Mix in some guys like Miles or Johny King... young or injury riddled with good arms who aren't up for 170 innings yet and maybe it does become esteemed. 

 

 

[bronson44]

Giants fans must be pissed we scooped Miles

[Brownie19]

5 hours ago, bronson44 said:

Giants fans must be pissed we scooped Miles

I doubt Giants fans have even heard of Spencer Miles.  He threw like 12 professional innings for them in 3+ years.  At some point they may catch on and realize they may have lost a legit arm - probably not there yet beyond the die-hard fans (like us).