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Posted
2 hours ago, Orgfiller said:

Your statement is definitely true, but with how he's trending it would basically seem disappointing if barring injury he didn't at least play AAA ball by mid to end of next season. He's that exciting of a prospect to me.

agreed - it would be mildly disappointing. 

He could compete for the start SS role by Spring 2028.

Posted
14 hours ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

256 wRC+ over his last 10 games.

He's been crazy hot for the last 3-4 weeks. Since June 20th he's produced a .410/.496/.562 1.058 OPS line good for a 186 wRC+. I hope the club finds a way to get him regular playing time in the majors post trade deadline to show what he can do as he may be an asset moving forward. Reports I've seen generally believe he'll be better suited in a utility role vs a full time starter so we shall see what his eventual role looks like.

 

Posted
13 hours ago, max silver said:

He's been crazy hot for the last 3-4 weeks. Since June 20th he's produced a .410/.496/.562 1.058 OPS line good for a 186 wRC+. I hope the club finds a way to get him regular playing time in the majors post trade deadline to show what he can do as he may be an asset moving forward. Reports I've seen generally believe he'll be better suited in a utility role vs a full time starter so we shall see what his eventual role looks like.

 

 Clement-lite is probably the ceiling. 

Posted
7 hours ago, John_Havok said:

 Clement-lite is probably the ceiling. 

I think he has a higher ceiling than Clement myself but we’re talking marginally.

Posted
9 hours ago, Sorrow said:

I think he has a higher ceiling than Clement myself but we’re talking marginally.

I think there might be a little higher ceiling with the bat as Kasevich appears to have a lot more disciplined plate approach but it remains to be seen how he performs with the glove. 

Posted
23 minutes ago, max silver said:

Ricky Tiedemann finally made his season debut and it went well. He pitched an inning with 2 K's and a walk and averaged 96.4 MPH with the 4 seamer. 

Season debut? He pitched twice about a month ago, one inning in each game and then apparently hurt his neck.

Was this his AAA debut?

Posted
5 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Season debut? He pitched twice about a month ago, one inning in each game and then apparently hurt his neck.

Was this his AAA debut?

Oh I missed that he actually made it into a couple of games earlier in the season. He pitched for Dunedin today.

Posted
Just now, max silver said:

Oh I missed that he actually made it into a couple of games earlier in the season. He pitched for Dunedin today.

Cool. Im glad hes back in action. Hes still pretty young, maybe he can turn into an elite high leverage lefty reliever for the Jays. I doubt being a starter is in the cards.

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1 minute ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Cool. Im glad hes back in action. Hes still pretty young, maybe he can turn into an elite high leverage lefty reliever for the Jays. I doubt being a starter is in the cards.

Yeah I think that starting is likely out of the cards but Miles has been a perfect example of a guy who has completely missed most of his professional career and very well may be starting as soon as next season. 

Posted
17 hours ago, max silver said:

I think there might be a little higher ceiling with the bat as Kasevich appears to have a lot more disciplined plate approach but it remains to be seen how he performs with the glove. 

More discipline..less power. Probably cancels out honestly unless he runs a consistently high babip. Plus, pitchers in the majors generally don't walk slap hitters with no power once they realize he has no power. I suspect his walk rate comes down more than other prospects. 

Not trying to slag Kasevich either he's definetly going to play in the majors, but it will be as a back-up MIF with great d and limited bat. He won't move the needle 

Posted
16 hours ago, max silver said:

Oh I missed that he actually made it into a couple of games earlier in the season. He pitched for Dunedin today.

Anyone want to start a pool on which bodypart gets injured next?

Bonus money for getting the date right for the start of his next IL stint

Posted
32 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

More discipline..less power. Probably cancels out honestly unless he runs a consistently high babip. Plus, pitchers in the majors generally don't walk slap hitters with no power once they realize he has no power. I suspect his walk rate comes down more than other prospects. 

Not trying to slag Kasevich either he's definetly going to play in the majors, but it will be as a back-up MIF with great d and limited bat. He won't move the needle 

Kasevich doesn't slap the ball around, he hits its harder than Clement does. The issue is the launch angle and spray pattern which creates a lot of ground balls and low line drives. In July he has maintained a considerably better launch angle sweet-spot % and air pull % and it has turned him into a monster at the plate. I'm not implying that he has found some permanent fix, but guys like this who have elite traits elsewhere are always one fix away from unlocking huge improvement.

His profile isn't that much different than a guy like Otto Lopez in the minors. Even Clement was a guy who grew to hit for more power as he aged. He really didn't hit for any power until age ~25.

He is also a potential ~60 grade defender at a position like second base. I can easily see him becoming an MLB starter.

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Posted
8 hours ago, metafour said:

Kasevich doesn't slap the ball around, he hits its harder than Clement does. The issue is the launch angle and spray pattern which creates a lot of ground balls and low line drives. In July he has maintained a considerably better launch angle sweet-spot % and air pull % and it has turned him into a monster at the plate. I'm not implying that he has found some permanent fix, but guys like this who have elite traits elsewhere are always one fix away from unlocking huge improvement.

His profile isn't that much different than a guy like Otto Lopez in the minors. Even Clement was a guy who grew to hit for more power as he aged. He really didn't hit for any power until age ~25.

He is also a potential ~60 grade defender at a position like second base. I can easily see him becoming an MLB starter.

He is sort of interesting because he has elite contact numbers but hits the ball harder than most of the other guys in AAA making that much contact. 

It's still just Tyler Freeman 80% of the time 

The age is becoming a red flag 

Posted
17 hours ago, Laika said:

He is sort of interesting because he has elite contact numbers but hits the ball harder than most of the other guys in AAA making that much contact. 

It's still just Tyler Freeman 80% of the time 

The age is becoming a red flag 

Its elite contact on top of elite zone control. He only swings ~20% of the time at pitches outside the zone (93rd percentile in AAA).

Tyler Freeman grades out as terrible defensively, so while the hitting may be similar, the defensive projection is what would change that by a lot. Andres Gimenez was still nearly a 4 WAR player back in his one season in Cleveland when his wRC+ was near 100.

 

Posted
17 hours ago, Laika said:

He is sort of interesting because he has elite contact numbers but hits the ball harder than most of the other guys in AAA making that much contact. 

It's still just Tyler Freeman 80% of the time 

The age is becoming a red flag 

Kasevich is all of 25 years old and was a college draftee who essentially missed a season due to injury. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, metafour said:

Its elite contact on top of elite zone control. He only swings ~20% of the time at pitches outside the zone (93rd percentile in AAA).

Tyler Freeman grades out as terrible defensively, so while the hitting may be similar, the defensive projection is what would change that by a lot. Andres Gimenez was still nearly a 4 WAR player back in his one season in Cleveland when his wRC+ was near 100.

 

But he's 25 and a half and he hits close to NO barrels in the minors. 

Everything really rides on the defense. If he gets a chance and showcases on D like Ernie Clement did, then he will get some playing time to prove that he can hit enough singles to stick around. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, max silver said:

Kasevich is all of 25 years old and was a college draftee who essentially missed a season due to injury. 

Why do you say that like being 25.5 is a good thing 

It's ancient for a prospect and he is trending like a guy who may only be MLB caliber at the absolutely peak of his physical/learned talent, i.e. the next three years 

Aging curve peaking at 27 or 28, there is a class of AAAA player who kind of never even get given a shot until then (because they aren't good enough) and then they have no MLB utility from 30 onward. That is how he looks to me 

But if he is a clear plus defender at any infield position then everything changes and orbits that skill. 

Posted

listen to laika guys, i know there's not a lot to be excited about with the big league club, but having a 0.3% barrel rate in that many AAA plate appearances is just abysmal. He's putting the ball on the ground half the time and even when he gets it in the air, he's popping it up over 20% of the time.

You pray that he might have a season or 2 of sal frelick type production, but we're probably looking at ben williamson / jared triolo 2.0 

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