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Given how cheap the Red Sox have acted recently, this probably takes them out of the Bichette market unless they finally want to act like a big market team again. 

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I still think Cease is the best starting pitcher added to any AL East roster this off season

Hope that's true

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I like Ranger Suarez a lot, but his injury history and declining velo are great indicators for this hopefully being a terrible contract that could look awful as soon as the third season.

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Ugh the Red Sox rotation + rotation depth is annoyingly good 

Outside looking in: all of Early, Tolle, Crawford, Harrison, Sandoval, Houck 

I guess they might trade Bello. Some rumours they wanted to. 

Posted
1 minute ago, G-Snarls said:

I still think Cease is the best starting pitcher added to any AL East roster this off season

Hope that's true

I mean, not exactly a hot take since he was the top available FA starter lol. The competition is:

  • Sonny Gray (Sox)
  • Ranger Suarez (Sox)
  • Johan Oviedo (Sox)
  • Shane Baz (O's)
  • Zach Eflin (O's)
  • Ryan Weathers (Yankees) - lol
  • Cody Ponce (Jays)
  • Shane Bieber (Jays), arguably since he was already on the roster so wasn't "added" to it per se
  • Steven Matz? (Rays)

The Sox have by far improved the most on the pitching side, and it doesn't even compare to the 2/3 the Jays added.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Laika said:

Ugh the Red Sox rotation + rotation depth is annoyingly good 

Outside looking in: all of Early, Tolle, Crawford, Harrison, Sandoval, Houck 

I guess they might trade Bello. Some rumours they wanted to. 

Jays sign Tucker, Phillies sign Bo, Sox trade Bello for Alec Buhm

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4 minutes ago, philly30 said:

Suarez has a bad back, he will pitch the entire season healthy

Suarez starts since becoming a full-time rotation mainstay (age 26 season onwards):

2022 - 29 GS

2023 - 22 GS

2024 - 27 GS

2025 - 26 GS

He's never pitched an entire season while being fully healthy, and I don't expect that to suddenly change starting in his age 30 season unless you know something I don't. He carries quite a bit of injury risk, even relative to the usual injury risk that all pitchers do.

He's also lost over 2 mph of velo since 2023.

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Some extra details

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The Red Sox are going to sign left-hander Ranger Suárez, reports Jon Heyman of The New York Post. It’s a five-year deal worth $130MM, reports Bob Nightengale of USA Today. There are no deferrals and no opt-outs, per Nightengale. The pact does not include a no-trade clause, per Chris Cotillo of MassLive. The Sox have a full 40-man roster and will need to make a corresponding move in order to accommodate the Boras Corporation client.

Posted
10 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

Suarez starts since becoming a full-time rotation mainstay (age 26 season onwards):

2022 - 29 GS

2023 - 22 GS

2024 - 27 GS

2025 - 26 GS

He's never pitched an entire season while being fully healthy, and I don't expect that to suddenly change starting in his age 30 season unless you know something I don't. He carries quite a bit of injury risk, even relative to the usual injury risk that all pitchers do.

He's also lost over 2 mph of velo since 2023.

I think this feels a lot like the Ryu deal from several years ago although Suarez has been better at avoiding the injured list. 

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28 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

Suarez starts since becoming a full-time rotation mainstay (age 26 season onwards):

2022 - 29 GS

2023 - 22 GS

2024 - 27 GS

2025 - 26 GS

He's never pitched an entire season while being fully healthy, and I don't expect that to suddenly change starting in his age 30 season unless you know something I don't. He carries quite a bit of injury risk, even relative to the usual injury risk that all pitchers do.

He's also lost over 2 mph of velo since 2023.

Sorry meant to say he will not pitch entire season healthy

Posted
11 minutes ago, philly30 said:

Sorry meant to say he will not pitch entire season healthy

Ah, that changes your post quite a bit lol. In that case I agree.

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Posted
52 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Screenshot_20260114_224139_Reddit.jpg

Discuss lol

26M in CBT hit per year for both, only Cease's deal goes two years longer. Much rather have Cease even with the extra two years of term. He's been a lot more durable, and it's a lot easier to dream on a CY caliber season for him than it is for Suarez sitting 91. 

Posted
55 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Screenshot_20260114_224139_Reddit.jpg

Discuss lol

lol... what's to discuss, at the same money I take Cease all day and he stays relatively healthy and misses way more bats. Like what's your point here?

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Just now, Spanky__99 said:

lol... what's to discuss, at the same money I take Cease all day. Like what's your point here?

No point at all.  Just saw the graphic and wanted to share lol.  

Posted
7 minutes ago, BTS said:

26M in CBT hit per year for both, only Cease's deal goes two years longer. Much rather have Cease even with the extra two years of term. He's been a lot more durable, and it's a lot easier to dream on a CY caliber season for him than it is for Suarez sitting 91. 

 

7 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

lol... what's to discuss, at the same money I take Cease all day and he stays relatively healthy and misses way more bats. Like what's your point here?

 

5 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

No point at all.  Just saw the graphic and wanted to share lol.  

K..... well, you have 2 of us questioning the graph?

Posted
4 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

No point at all.  Just saw the graphic and wanted to share lol.  

To be fair, Red Sox improved their lineup, Suarez is a good signing for them, and if they find Bregman replacement, they will be as good than Jays.

Posted
8 hours ago, Orgfiller said:

I mean, not exactly a hot take since he was the top available FA starter lol. The competition is:

  • Sonny Gray (Sox)
  • Ranger Suarez (Sox)
  • Johan Oviedo (Sox)
  • Shane Baz (O's)
  • Zach Eflin (O's)
  • Ryan Weathers (Yankees) - lol
  • Cody Ponce (Jays)
  • Shane Bieber (Jays), arguably since he was already on the roster so wasn't "added" to it per se
  • Steven Matz? (Rays)

The Sox have by far improved the most on the pitching side, and it doesn't even compare to the 2/3 the Jays added.

Suarez,Crochet, Gray, and Bello all put the ball on the ground alot. 

Hows that Red Sox  IF defense looking?

Posted
23 hours ago, Dr. Dinger said:

It feels like Tucker is gonna sign somewhere today. 

Gotta be today tho right? 

Not being a dick, just thinking.. today or tomorrow has to be the day. 

Posted
On 1/14/2026 at 3:53 PM, Orgfiller said:

I mean, not exactly a hot take since he was the top available FA starter lol. The competition is:

  • Sonny Gray (Sox)
  • Ranger Suarez (Sox)
  • Johan Oviedo (Sox)
  • Shane Baz (O's)
  • Zach Eflin (O's)
  • Ryan Weathers (Yankees) - lol
  • Cody Ponce (Jays)
  • Shane Bieber (Jays), arguably since he was already on the roster so wasn't "added" to it per se
  • Steven Matz? (Rays)

The Sox have by far improved the most on the pitching side, and it doesn't even compare to the 2/3 the Jays added.

Keep in mind the Jays are also adding Trey this year as they had him for less time than Bieber last year.

Posted
1 minute ago, mphenhef said:

Keep in mind the Jays are also adding Trey this year as they had him for less time than Bieber last year.

It's certainly revamped. Kind of pumped to see what this staff can do over a full season.

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