World Series pre-GDT Discussion - JAYS vs. Dodgers

[Jays24]

1 minute ago, Brownie19 said:

Don't forget this if this blows up in their face.  If the Jays do this, it comes with a pretty big risk.

The only risk I see is if Bo isnt healthy enough to play the field properly.  If youre a SS, playing 2B should be much easier to you with it being an inferior position. 

[Jays24]

Any word on the finalized rosters?  Please have Bo included on there!!

[BlackCoffee]

8 hours ago, G-Snarls said:

Power meeting 

 

Mark telling Mark the 2026 roster has to have more Canadian content. 

[Brownie19]

1 minute ago, Jays24 said:

The only risk I see is if Bo isnt healthy enough to play the field properly.  If youre a SS, playing 2B should be much easier to you with it being an inferior position. 

In theory yes, but playing it for the first time in the World Series, while playing through an injury comes with massive risk.  There are all kinds of nuances to playing the position that are different than SS.

I don't have much doubt he can figure it out after playing it through spring training, or playing it for 3-4 weeks at the ML level - but to ask him to do it for the first time in the WS is risky as f*ck. 

Then you have to ask yourself how effective the bat will actually be.  He's been off for a long time now - no rehab games to get your timing back - it's straight into the fire.

I mean obviously I hope it works, but there's a fairly high probability it doesn't.

The good news is you're just trying to be an upgrade over IKF, so the bar is super low.  I'm on board with the move myself.  I just don't really want to hear everyone blame JS and the FO if this backfires.

[BlackCoffee]

7 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

The only risk I see is if Bo isnt healthy enough to play the field properly.  If youre a SS, playing 2B should be much easier to you with it being an inferior position. 

I’d rather Bo not be on the roster if it means he’s playing the field. He’s a sub par fielder when he’s 100% and he cracks under pressure. I liked the ALCS roster but with Nance instead of Little. 

[Jays24]

3 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

In theory yes, but playing it for the first time in the World Series, while playing through an injury comes with massive risk.  There are all kinds of nuances to playing the position that are different than SS.

I don't have much doubt he can figure it out after playing it through spring training, or playing it for 3-4 weeks at the ML level - but to ask him to do it for the first time in the WS is risky as f*ck. 

Then you have to ask yourself how effective the bat will actually be.  He's been off for a long time now - no rehab games to get your timing back - it's straight into the fire.

I mean obviously I hope it works, but there's a fairly high probability it doesn't.

The good news is you're just trying to be an upgrade over IKF, so the bar is super low.  I'm on board with the move myself.  I just don't really want to hear everyone blame JS and the FO if this backfires.

You said it right there, we are asking him to be better than IKF so the bar is extremely low.  No one will blame this front office by playing Bo over IKF. 

Its why I mentioned to let Bo DH for the first game and then go from there.  The harder job was for Gimenez to go from 2B to SS and like most of us thought, he was born to play there.  

[Jays24]

6 minutes ago, BlackCoffee said:

I’d rather Bo not be on the roster if it means he’s playing the field. He’s a sub par fielder when he’s 100% and he cracks under pressure. I liked the ALCS roster but with Nance instead of Little. 

Bo's bat is too important to have so you do whatever it takes to get that in the lineup.  

And id rather have Berrios over Little because im a big believer that your starters can easily become your best relievers.  But thats doubtful since I havent heard anything of him throwing since he went on the IL

[Spanky__99]

 

[L54]

Making the move from SS to 2B for a professional middle infielder is not a big deal. Field ball throw ball. Stand where the khakis tell you to. 
 

the real question is if he is healthy enough to actually play D and run the bases. Every video I’ve seen leads me to believe that he can’t yet 

Id still put him on the roster 

[Omar]

Ty France 

[G-Snarls]

29 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Any word on the finalized rosters?  Please have Bo included on there!!

[G-Snarls]

Yes Bo!!!!!!!!

[Jays24]

Wild that Rodriguez was our best reliever in the first half of the season and now hes not even worthy of rostering for the world series

[Brownie19]

12 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

You said it right there, we are asking him to be better than IKF so the bar is extremely low.  No one will blame this front office by playing Bo over IKF. 

Its why I mentioned to let Bo DH for the first game and then go from there.  The harder job was for Gimenez to go from 2B to SS and like most of us thought, he was born to play there.  

Just remember that if he boots a ball, or can't execute a DP that hurts us man.  IKF has been really solid in the playoffs IMO.

[SeranthonySantander]

If it’s clear Bo isn’t ready the first game, they can easily make adjustments.  Can’t have any errors or that basically negates his extra hundred points of OPS.  Either DH only, or sub him off the roster completely

[Jays24]

1 minute ago, Brownie19 said:

Just remember that if he boots a ball, or can't execute a DP that hurts us man.  IKF has been really solid in the playoffs IMO.

Ya let Bo DH the first game to ensure he is moving 100% during game action.  Putting him at 2B in the first game has a lot of risks like you mentioned. 

[Brownie19]

Ty France is an interesting add.  I guess he wants the extra bat over an extra emergency arm in the pen.

 

[Omar]

1 minute ago, Brownie19 said:

Just remember that if he boots a ball, or can't execute a DP that hurts us man.  IKF has been really solid in the playoffs IMO.

I guess the Jays figured that protection for Vlad in the order is worth the risk on defense. We'll know when the lineup comes in out.

[G-Snarls]

3 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Ya let Bo DH the first game to ensure he is moving 100% during game action.  Putting him at 2B in the first game has a lot of risks like you mentioned. 

Springer in RF is less risky than Bo at 2B but I don't love either right now

[Jays24]

The Jays hate Schneider so much that they will use Ty France over him as a pinch hitting bat lol

[Jonn]

3 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

Ty France is an interesting add.  I guess he wants the extra bat over an extra emergency arm in the pen.

 

Considering they haven’t been using them makes sense.

[mphenhef]

40 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

No love for Olerud? 

Sucks about Alomar because he'd definitely be there.

I would love to see Olerud, but figured they would want a pitcher for one.  So many options we'll just have to save some for next year ;)

[Laika]

Wow!!!

[BlackCoffee]

39 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Bo's bat is too important to have so you do whatever it takes to get that in the lineup.  

And id rather have Berrios over Little because im a big believer that your starters can easily become your best relievers.  But thats doubtful since I havent heard anything of him throwing since he went on the IL

I don't know if Bo's bat is worth having him play the field in an unfamiliar position and not 100%. Springer is clutch so I'd take him as DH anyday. 

Personally I don't think Berrios is actually injured. He's butt hurt about being sent to the bullpen. 

[BlackCoffee]

27 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

Springer in RF is less risky than Bo at 2B but I don't love either right now

Springer should be DH. Bo is a little b*tch that shouldn't even be on the roster. 

[BlackCoffee]

34 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Wild that Rodriguez was our best reliever in the first half of the season and now hes not even worthy of rostering for the world series

Honesty the government needs to drop him off in Cuba and Santander in Venezuela too while they're at it. 

[rydermike]

Bichette coming in to the lineup isn't that big of a risk to me given he's replacing Loprefido, who just had a single pinch run stint. You take that risk even if he's not ready for 1 or 2 and hope he's good for 3,4 or even 567. Adding Ty France is the interesting one for me. I wonder if it's in case they throw Bichette into the game as a PH, he injures himself in the field and then the lineup's out of whack and they need an extra fielder because they've already used other pinch hitters/runners

[Jays24]

18 minutes ago, BlackCoffee said:

Honesty the government needs to drop him off in Cuba and Santander in Venezuela too while they're at it. 

What's up with the stupid racist jokes... you join ICE or something? 

[Jonn]

People acting like Bo is going to spontaneously combust when a ball is hit at him. Dude will make the plays hit at him. Relax.

[glory]

If Springer prefers to play DH and is still hobbled by the knee issue, then Bo starting at DH may not be the best decision, even though on paper it's clearly the best option. Springer, outside of Vlad, is the most important bat in the lineup. Need to have him in the best spot for him to succeed.

Let's see where the Jays put Bo when the lineups come out. If he's at DH and Springer is in the OF, then from an offensive upside standpoint, that's the best lineup the Jays could field if Bo can't play the field yet. Have to hope Springer is healthy enough to do that though.