Non-Jays Division Series GDT

[Orgfiller]

Skubal is pumping gas approaching 100 pitches. He needs to stay in this game.

[BTS]

99 pitches for Skubal. I'm leaving him out there for the 7th if I'm Hinch 

[Brownie19]

Broadcast is right.  The other option was to walk Carpenter and let Kirby continue.  Risk in that as well though - putting the go ahead run on base.

I think bringing in the lefty is he right move.   He's been so good and Carpenter is awful v. LHPing.  Sometimes even the best (correct?) decision just don't work out.  That's baseball.

[Brownie19]

Just now, BTS said:

99 pitches for Skubal. I'm leaving him out there for the 7th if I'm Hinch 

100% 

[Slade]

1 minute ago, Doubleplay21 said:

Winning managers do not pull pitchers who are crushing it

It's do or die and Skubal is f***ing nasty. 

[Grant77]

1 minute ago, Orgfiller said:

He looks unhittable. I’d be genuinely disappointed if he doesn’t get the chance to get through the 7th barring some trouble on the bases.

The guy is still pumping triple digits and completely overwhelmed Raleigh. I just let him go at least until someone makes it to second base.

[SeranthonySantander]

Let’s do 120 pitches on skubal, he barely ever does more than 100.  They won’t use him short rest

[Orgfiller]

At 99 pitches I don’t think there’s any chance he’s not coming back out. Only question really is if you let him finish the inning at 115-120 pitches. I say the answer is still yes. I only consider taking him out if he allows a base runner around the 115th pitch.

[Jimcanuck]

1 minute ago, Orgfiller said:

And then you run the risk that a homerun makes it a 3-1 game. It’s not like Gleyber Torres and Riley Greene coming up, again for a third look against Kirby, are good matchups for him.

And you run the risk the reliever shits the bed.  Go with the hot hand in Kirby, or the unknown in Speier?  Speier has had blow ups.

I put Carpenter on 1st and continue with the hot hand.

[Abomination]

I'm not sure I care which team wins, but I'd love to see it go 20 innings :)

[Doubleplay21]

Let's see if Seattle bullpen can allow no runs.

[Slade]

1 minute ago, Abomination said:

I'm not sure I care which team wins, but I'd love to see it go 20 innings :)

Haha same, I don't really care but use up those arms. 

[BTS]

Looks like Skubal is done. Tigers deserve to lose if so 

[Slade]

Looks like hes done.

[Orgfiller]

1 minute ago, Jimcanuck said:

And you run the risk the reliever shits the bed.  Go with the hot hand in Kirby, or the unknown in Speier?  Speier has had blow ups.

I put Carpenter on 1st and continue with the hot hand.

Kirby’s numbers are historically MUCH worse a third time through the lineup. At that point you’re risking the game getting out of hand by leaving him out there. Just because the reliever coming in blew it doesn’t mean it wasn’t the right move to make. The odds of that homer happening are much lower than one of the other guys beating Kirby.

[Alejandro Murphy]

FWIW about pitcher vs batter duel 

like Vlad owned Rodon

 

against Skubal

Vlad batting 600

.714 OBP

1.20 SLG%
 

1.9 OPS

 

owned him in a small sample size (5 AB)

[BTS]

I can't believe people are talking about walking Carpenter with nobody out in the 6th inning of a 1-run game 

[Grant77]

Hinch should let Skubal pitch the 7th and roll with a well rested Will Vest for 2 innings. Nobody but your very best should pitch in a game like this.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Would be nice if the Ms could tie this up and then have the game go about 20 innings or so.

[Jimcanuck]

Just now, Orgfiller said:

Kirby’s numbers are historically MUCH worse a third time through the lineup. At that point you’re risking the game getting out of hand by leaving him out there. Just because the reliever coming in blew it doesn’t mean it wasn’t the right move to make. The odds of that homer happening are much lower than one of the other guys beating Kirby.

I don't think you can say either decision is the correct one.  Leave him in or take him out, either decision can be defended.

I'm in the leave him in camp, because of his performance up to that point.  Same reason I thought taking Berrios out was wrong.

[Doubleplay21]

Detroit batters really cannot hit sliders and off spreed as the broadcast have said

[Jimcanuck]

4 minutes ago, BTS said:

I can't believe people are talking about walking Carpenter with nobody out in the 6th inning of a 1-run game 

Well Carpenter vs. Kirby is like Judge.

[Orgfiller]

2 minutes ago, Jimcanuck said:

I don't think you can say either decision is the correct one.  Leave him in or take him out, either decision can be defended.

I'm in the leave him in camp, because of his performance up to that point.  Same reason I thought taking Berrios out was wrong.

The Blue Jays scored zero runs that game, and the pitchers only gave up 2! It wasn’t even the wrong call by the results.

[BTS]

lol, Skubal out 

[Omar]

If the M's end up losing, Dan Wilson is going to get skewered for pulling Kirby. 

[Jonn]

Pulling Skubal is f***ing crazy. If I am the Tigers GM he better hopes the bullpen holds this. Because if this backfires Hinch not taking the team charter home.

[Grant77]

Pulling Skubal with less 100 pitches could go down in Tigers lore as a pretty bad decision. Finnegan looks shaky.

[Orgfiller]

Like either way Skubal isn’t pitching Sunday or Monday. Why not ride him for one more inning?

[Jimcanuck]

1 minute ago, Orgfiller said:

The Blue Jays scored zero runs that game, and the pitchers only gave up 2! It wasn’t even the wrong call by the results.

So very much like this game, you mean.

[Jonn]

Also if Dan Wilson leaves Kirby in. Lets him face a guy who is 6-6 off him and goes deep. He never hears the end of it either. He made statistically the right move.