Blue Jays (Bassitt) vs Yankees (Gil): 9/6/25, 1:05pm

[Rimar]

2 hours ago, Doubleplay21 said:

Why does Schneider think Varland is the next closer ?

It's more Schneider want to please Atkins overusing the players he added since trade deadline.  

[Rimar]

2 hours ago, jaysthebest said:

I cannot believe Varland had an ERA below 2 with the Twins.

Depend in which situations he was used. And the Twins division is weaker than the Jays division.  

[jaysblue]

4 hours ago, John_Havok said:

Nah, Berrios in 2026 already fills the back-end innings eater role, no need to pay for another one in FA when the one they're paying for already is more expensive. 

One hopes they would sign a top rotation option, Gausman to 2, Berrios has a bounceback season as the 3 and all the internal options plus depth FA minor league deals fight over the last spots.

Manoah, Yesavage, Francis, Lauer, Estrada, plus whatever sh*t they pick up and try to throw against the wall. The rest of the minor league options are still either too far away, not ready, or just arent good enough. Bloss wont be ready to start the season but he'll probably factor in by July

The Jays need to sign a #1 type/front of the rotation starter and likely another arm.

Like I said, if the price was right, I'm not opposed to a Jays/Bassitt reunion. Over a 162 game season, he's a valuable arm to have.

1) Bieber or another arm

2) Gausman

3) Lauer

4) Berrios

5) Bassitt

Wouldn't complain about that rotation above. 

As for Berrios, you're expecting him to have a bounce back season and pitch like a #3? Would be nice, but not holding my breath. 

Anyways, you're the one who said you would choose Vlad as the team MVP over Springer, so yeah you're stubborn as is! 

[Stangstag]

2 hours ago, Rimar said:

It's more Schneider want to please Atkins overusing the players he added since trade deadline.  

More like, he HAS to. The only way JS gets fired is if he stops listening to the front office. I have a guess that’s exactly what happened with Montoyo.

[Masterbather]

Well on the bright side, are we seeing Little version 2.0, the rebirth? Has he found baseball Jesus?

[Laika]

I have to assume Varland is tipping his pitches. Actually seems like the most likely explanation.

[John_Havok]

6 hours ago, jaysblue said:

The Jays need to sign a #1 type/front of the rotation starter and likely another arm.

Like I said, if the price was right, I'm not opposed to a Jays/Bassitt reunion. Over a 162 game season, he's a valuable arm to have.

1) Bieber or another arm

2) Gausman

3) Lauer

4) Berrios

5) Bassitt

Wouldn't complain about that rotation above. 

As for Berrios, you're expecting him to have a bounce back season and pitch like a #3? Would be nice, but not holding my breath. 

Anyways, you're the one who said you would choose Vlad as the team MVP over Springer, so yeah you're stubborn as is! 

Never said expected Berrios to bounce back. You really need to work on actually reading what people write so you dont strawman the s*** out of your posts.

"One hopes they would sign a top rotation option, Gausman to 2, Berrios has a bounceback season as the 3..." is what I wrote. Literally used the word hope...not expect. 

It would be ideal if he did, for 3 possible reasons; 1, it helps the team win in 2026, 2, so he possibly opts out and they get out from under the remainder of the deal, or 3, if the bounceback is real and there's noticeable changes and improvements in stuff... maybe the remainder of the deal if he doesnt opt out isnt as s*****. That last though is truly pie in the sky. 

There's no way going into 2026 they want to be paying Bassitt to be a 5 if they project Berrios as a 4/5 which they probably should.  Just get to work on trying to fix a portion of the decline and hope to hell some variation of the above 3 scenarios happens, none of which are likely.

And yes Vlad is the MVP of the Jays, Springer is pretty inarguably their best hitter in 2026. Best hitter doesn't always instantly mean most valuable. 

[jaysthebest]

Jays have to take Barger out of #2 spot. He's been ice cold for more than a month now.

[Spanky__99]

8 hours ago, jaysblue said:

The Jays need to sign a #1 type/front of the rotation starter and likely another arm.

Like I said, if the price was right, I'm not opposed to a Jays/Bassitt reunion. Over a 162 game season, he's a valuable arm to have.

1) Bieber or another arm

2) Gausman

3) Lauer

4) Berrios

5) Bassitt

Wouldn't complain about that rotation above. 

As for Berrios, you're expecting him to have a bounce back season and pitch like a #3? Would be nice, but not holding my breath. 

Anyways, you're the one who said you would choose Vlad as the team MVP over Springer, so yeah you're stubborn as is! 

Not egregious as  fuxk, sure.                                                                                                                                              

[jaysblue]

8 hours ago, John_Havok said:

And yes Vlad is the MVP of the Jays, Springer is pretty inarguably their best hitter in 2026. Best hitter doesn't always instantly mean most valuable. 

[BatFlip]

22 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Am I missing something?  Springer is definitely their most potent bat this year.  Vlad may be the most valuable player overall, but with the seasons Springer and Kirky are having, the gap between those guys is small.  

[BB17]

I'd probably take Kirk over Vladdy as most valuable given what the backup C spot would look like if Kirk wasn't here. Personally Springer has been the most valuable/best player on the team.

[max silver]

15 hours ago, Stangstag said:

More like, he HAS to. The only way JS gets fired is if he stops listening to the front office. I have a guess that’s exactly what happened with Montoyo.

That's incredibly presumptive of you. I specifically recall Montoyo ripping his players in the media when they were struggling and there were reports that he had lost his clubhouse.