2025 Trade Deadline

[hanton]

29 minutes ago, Doubleplay21 said:

France replaces Schneider as the right hand bat off the bench

have you been watching Schnedier's AB's?

[John_Havok]

23 minutes ago, saskjayfan said:

 

I don't see how we get 7 starters on the roster.  I doubt we go with a 6 man bullpen..lol

Fisrt off, Ignore that other guy, his ideas are about as solid as a soup sandwich. 

 

Manoah has options so he doesn't need to come back to the 26 man roster. He can do his thing in Buffalo and earn his way back once the rehab stint is over

[keggy]

If you're a bench player with no versatility you need to absolutely mash to even justify your roster spot. Not sure what the plan with France is

[Stangstag]

Sometime in the first week of October, we are going to look back on today and wish we did more.

This was not enough for a team that wasn’t expected to compete this year, managed to take first place, and has seen some recent struggles with the pitching staff. We have several key pending free agents.

We needed reinforcements and we didn’t get enough. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

1 minute ago, Stangstag said:

Sometime in the first week of October, we are going to look back on today and wish we did more.

This was not enough for a team that wasn’t expected to compete this year, managed to take first place, and has seen some recent struggles with the pitching staff. We have several key pending free agents.

We needed reinforcements and we didn’t get enough. 

The recent struggles we had with the pitching was mostly just Bassitt getting pounded on the road (big surprise there) and two AAA starters coming up and getting pummeled in a spot start because of a double header, and then they used a position player to finish off a blow out.

[Jays24]

32 minutes ago, mphenhef said:

Here are the number of blown saves this year by some of the guys dealt today

 

Finnegan 6 (20 saves)

Shelby Miller 5 (10)

Jake Bird 6 (0)

Iglesias 5 (12)

Helsley 5 (21)

Jax 5 (0)

Mason miller 3 (20)

Bednar 0 (17) this one surprised me

doval 4 (15)

Duran 2 (16)

 

 

 

Hoffman 4 (25)

Hoffman’s 4 isn’t as bad as people think it is.

Kind of unfair to only look at it like that.  How is Hoffman doing in non save situations? 

Its his overall performance that should be measured, not just save opportunities since these type of relievers are asked to do more than just that. 

[jmomcc]

Athletic review of our deadline is that we are one of the losers of the deadline. Should have got better relievers essentially. 

[Terminator]

12 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Sometime in the first week of October, we are going to look back on today and wish we did more.

This was not enough for a team that wasn’t expected to compete this year, managed to take first place, and has seen some recent struggles with the pitching staff. We have several key pending free agents.

We needed reinforcements and we didn’t get enough. 

You sound like Jays24 lol

We added the best starter available (seriously, that is not a misprint) and two late inning relievers that throw 98 mph and you are whining that we didn't add enough to the pitching staff?

Who else did you want us to get?

[Jays24]

I'm happy we took the chance with Bieber but not happy that we didnt get a true backend reliever thats better than Hoffman.  He is not good enough to be your best reliever.  

It would have been nice to get a middle of the order or leadoff bat but I trust in the guys coming back can provide the punch needed.  Basically Santandar better come back this year at a good level because we'll need that power threat in the playoffs. 

[Stangstag]

1 minute ago, Terminator said:

You sound like Jays24 lol

We added the best starter available (seriously, that is not a misprint) and two late inning relievers that throw 98 mph and you are whining that we didn't add enough to the pitching staff?

Who else did you want us to get?

Alright man we’ll see

[Jonn]

Will see how everything pans out. Still think we needed one more bat. Starting prospect depth took a massive hit and I realistically don't known how much better this team got. It really all rides on how well Bieber does.

Don't really understand the point of rostering Ty France at all.

[Vancouverite]

56 minutes ago, Terminator said:

So assuming Santander is out and everyone else comes back for the playoffs, our lineup and bench could be something like this:

1. LF- Lukes/Schneider (L/R)
2. DH/RF- Springer
3. 1B- Vlad
4. SS- Bo
5. 3B- Barger (L)
6. C- Kirk
7. CF- Varsho (L)
8. RF/DH- Loperfido/France (L/R)
9. 2B- Gimenez/Clement (L/R)

• C- Heineman (S)
• 2B/LF- Schneider
• 1B- France
• UT- Clement
• OF- Straw

i really hope Santander is back at some point but, assuming he's not i like the flexibility this roster has for sure. 

[Jonn]

I'm just really glad the Red Sox didn't get Joe Ryan. I almost s*** my pants at the gym when I read that. Thank god that was f*** up.

[BTS]

How many teams added more talent to their MLB roster than the Jays over the last couple of days? If it wasn't enough, its because the team isn't good enough. 

[jmomcc]

The more i look at varland.. i just don't see it. 
 

His stuff really played up in relief but he's still not even 9k/9. This is the literal first year he's been good and he's 27. He throws hard and he gets groundballs. That's nice but why is that so important in terms of getting control? 

The yankees got two better relievers for less than we paid for one. That matters way more this year. they both also have way more track record. 
 

Either spend more and get Jax who strikes out the world and has control. Or spend less and get better rentals. 

We chose the weird middle where we got control of someone with no track record and doesn't strike people out. 
 

He's essentially a slightly worse version of Fisher. I love fisher. The point is we can create our own fisher again next year. We don't need to buy control of that. 

 

[gruber9292]

2 minutes ago, Terminator said:

You sound like Jays24 lol

We added the best starter available (seriously, that is not a misprint) and two late inning relievers that throw 98 mph and you are whining that we didn't add enough to the pitching staff?

Who else did you want us to get?

I think another big swing and miss arm in the pen was needed. Varland is good but 8.7/9 K rate is ok but not elite. Good thing is he doesn't walk anyone and has a solid 2.02 ERA. 

[Terminator]

Just now, Stangstag said:

Alright man we’ll see

Seriously, what pitchers did you want us to get?

You seem to love the Yankees deadline and I think it is criminal what they got Bednar and Doval for but outside of that, Siranthony and Varland are right there in terms of velocity, results and projections.

They also got Bird I guess, but their bullpen was a mess outside of Williams and Weaver so they needed another guy more than we did. And of course we got an SP1 and they didn't acquire a starter at all despite Cashman trying.

[Vancouverite]

is Varsho expected back tomorrow?

[BTS]

3 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

The more i look at varland.. i just don't see it. 
 

His stuff really played up in relief but he's still not even 9k/9. This is the literal first year he's been good and he's 27. He throws hard and he gets groundballs. That's nice but why is that so important in terms of getting control? 

The yankees got two better relievers for less than we paid for one. That matters way more this year. they both also have way more track record. 
 

Either spend more and get Jax who strikes out the world and has control. Or spend less and get better rentals. 

We chose the weird middle where we got control of someone with no track record and doesn't strike people out. 
 

 

 

Who's the second reliever the Yankees got that's better than Varland?

[Funky]

If Bieber lives up to expectations, Gausman is our 2, that leaves Berrios,  Bassitt, Lauer and Scherzer fighting for the last 2 playoff starters.  
 

could we see Mad Max pitch out of the pen in the playoffs? The dude is competitive as hell and hasn’t been going deep into games.  Maybe his stuff ticks up a bit with reliever work?  Could be a weapon in the pen.  

any news on Sandlin and Garcia.   If they are back we do have a good looking pen  

 

[saskjayfan]

1 hour ago, Terminator said:

Cannot believe people think the Yankees had a good deadline

Yeah they added some relievers but the rest of it is just a bunch of platoon bats and bench players

How did they not add a starting pitcher?

I mean hell, we also added two good relievers but we added an SP1 on top of it. The Yankees will be considering Marcus Stroman for playoff games lmao

 

The Yankees rotation is hanging on by a thread.  Rodon is an older dude....often older dudes fade towards the end of the season.  They have no depth.  If Rodon or Fried went down, they'd be finished.

[saskjayfan]

1 hour ago, Terminator said:

Cannot believe people think the Yankees had a good deadline

Yeah they added some relievers but the rest of it is just a bunch of platoon bats and bench players

How did they not add a starting pitcher?

I mean hell, we also added two good relievers but we added an SP1 on top of it. The Yankees will be considering Marcus Stroman for playoff games lmao

 

The Yankees rotation is hanging on by a thread.  Rodon is an older dude....often older dudes fade towards the end of the season.  They have no depth.  If Rodon or Fried went down, they'd be finished.

[saskjayfan]

1 hour ago, Terminator said:

Cannot believe people think the Yankees had a good deadline

Yeah they added some relievers but the rest of it is just a bunch of platoon bats and bench players

How did they not add a starting pitcher?

I mean hell, we also added two good relievers but we added an SP1 on top of it. The Yankees will be considering Marcus Stroman for playoff games lmao

 

The Yankees rotation is hanging on by a thread.  Rodon is an older dude....often older dudes fade towards the end of the season.  They have no depth.  If Rodon or Fried went down, they'd be finished.

[jmomcc]

2 minutes ago, BTS said:

Who's the second reliever the Yankees got that's better than Varland?

Doval

[BTS]

Just now, jmomcc said:

Doval

Hasn't been the case this year. I'd rather have Varland. 

[Terminator]

Just now, saskjayfan said:

The Yankees rotation is hanging on by a thread.  Rodon is an older dude....often older dudes fade towards the end of the season.  They have no depth.  If Rodon or Fried went down, they'd be finished.

Yeah they needed a starting pitcher and some starting position players and instead they got some late inning relievers and platoon bats.

I think Cashman knows his team is cooked this year with the Judge injury (barring any playoff luck which is possible) so he focused on guys with some control so they could reload next year with Cole coming back.

[Vancouverite]

2 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

Doval

that's debatable 

Bednar is also not proven in the AL and he'll be going up against some good slugging teams in the AL East in hitter friendly ballparks.

Let's see how Bednar and Doval do the rest of the way vs Varland and Dominguez who are at least proven this year in the AL and have put up strong numbers so far this year.

[BTS]

STUFF+

Varland 110

Doval 104

LOCATION+

Varland 104

Doval 99

ERA

Varland 2.02

Doval 3.09

xFIP

Varland 3.04

Doval 3.68

 

And Doval has pitched in SF. Can't wait to watch him meltdown and walk 3 guys in a row in classic Doval fashion then give up a 298 foot HR. 

[Laika]

The thing I like about Ross is that he always tries to turn over every stone and get creative. I appreciate it.

It is a bit of a PR problem because milquetoast fans and boring media guys want teams to just do the obvious predictable things.

Trade for David Bednar! Go get Sandy! Who the hell is Luke Varland? F u Shartkins! --> this describes a lot of the reactions 

[jmomcc]

Just now, BTS said:

Hasn't been the case this year. I'd rather have Varland. 

You see that doval has 4 years of track record and still strikes out more guys than varland who has zero years of track record even in his down year? 

Give me the first guy.