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Mariners saving up Montes Arroyo Young Emerson Celestin for Vlad hopefully

 

yes plz

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Mariners saving up Montes Arroyo Young Emerson Celestin for Vlad hopefully

 

There's definitely a package with the Mariners that would make sense for both sides. The Jays (Rogers/Shapiro/both) don't have the balls to do it, but the M's are the team that has the need, desperation, and prospect capital to make this type of move worth it from the Jays end.

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There's definitely a package with the Mariners that would make sense for both sides. The Jays (Rogers/Shapiro/both) don't have the balls to do it, but the M's are the team that has the need, desperation, and prospect capital to make this type of move worth it from the Jays end.

 

Trader Jerry has to be beside himself with tilt after failing to find anyone that can hit while he has a top 2 pitching staff in the majors.

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I think Atkins would not trade Vlad unless he's getting one of their MLB starters - he's going to make moves with half an eye on 2025. But something like Woo/Montes/Celesten (and $300M to spend on other s***) would be interesting.
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Weird trade, in that all of those guys suck

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Orioles W

 

The Phillies probably win in that they'll likely get better use of Hays than the O's will of Dominguez (I assume he'll take over LF with Marsh moving to CF). Dominguez wasn't getting high leverage opportunities with the Phillies. I'm not sure why he would fill a meaningful role with the O's. Pache is probably pointless. They'd have been better off paying $1M or so and getting Kiermaier who can at least steal a base along with the defense.

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The Phillies probably win in that they'll likely get better use of Hays than the O's will of Dominguez (I assume he'll take over LF with Marsh moving to CF). Dominguez wasn't getting high leverage opportunities with the Phillies. I'm not sure why he would fill a meaningful role with the O's. Pache is probably pointless. They'd have been better off paying $1M or so and getting Kiermaier who can at least steal a base along with the defense.

 

My guess is Hays platoons with Marsh, and they still try to acquire a CF.

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Hays is in the same camp as Mullins and Mountcastle. He sucks. Dominguez has also sucked for 2 straight years after looking like one of the next lights out RPers in baseball in 2022.
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The Phillies probably win in that they'll likely get better use of Hays than the O's will of Dominguez (I assume he'll take over LF with Marsh moving to CF). Dominguez wasn't getting high leverage opportunities with the Phillies. I'm not sure why he would fill a meaningful role with the O's. Pache is probably pointless. They'd have been better off paying $1M or so and getting Kiermaier who can at least steal a base along with the defense.

 

I think they save a decent chunk of money for their pathetic payroll, gain a rp that shortens games for them bc their SPs are dead and replace the short side platoon hays with Pache.

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They would do well on Vlad. 2 playoff runs before he becomes a FA. His 143 wRC+ offensive value RFN is the highest its been since '21.

 

No chance they extend him, unless its a ridiculous term & AAV overpay I don't want. Do it if the offers are there now. If not revisit in off season.

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They would do well on Vlad. 2 playoff runs before he becomes a FA. His 143 wRC+ offensive value RFN is the highest its been since '21.

 

No chance they extend him, unless its a ridiculous term & AAV overpay I don't want. Do it if the offers are there now. If not revisit in off season.

 

I can't get over how insane it would be to not trade Vlad this trade deadline, and then follow that up by not extending him in the off season. Is the team seriously going to keep him for one more year because they want to contend in 2025 and then either trade him next July or let him test free agency? If Shapiro green lights that approach, then he can take the first bus out of town.

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Eflin to the Os!!!!!!!!!

 

for.... none of their top prospects

 

couple 2023 second rounders and a 10th rounder with good numbers

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Why are we starting Kikuchi tonight??? I don't see any benefits, only negatives?

 

Rolling the dice he dominates, risky against this lineup

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The benefit of one good start vs another bad start or injury does not compute for me.

 

dumb. Not sure if you're watching he just took a hard come backer off his foot, coaches came out he motioned he was fine

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Weird, Mariners just traded Stanek to the Mets, he is one of their set up guys. So, I guess in with Yimi and out with Stanek.

 

I thought they were acquiring Yimi to supplement.

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Weird, Mariners just traded Stanek to the Mets, he is one of their set up guys. So, I guess in with Yimi and out with Stanek.

 

I thought they were acquiring Yimi to supplement.

 

Dipoto is kind of an idiot. No reason not to keep Stanek as the 4th or 5th arm in the bullpen for the playoff run. Especially with all of Munoz, Garcia, and Santos having health issues this year.

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Weird, Mariners just traded Stanek to the Mets, he is one of their set up guys. So, I guess in with Yimi and out with Stanek.

 

I thought they were acquiring Yimi to supplement.

 

And, the Mariners acquired an CF/OF for Stanek. So to recap. They acquire a late inning RP from the Jays for a CF/OF type and then send a late inning RP to the Mets for a CF/OF type...

 

Plain old personnel swap.

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And, the Mariners acquired an CF/OF for Stanek. So to recap. They acquire a late inning RP from the Jays for a CF/OF type and then send a late inning RP to the Mets for a CF/OF type...

 

Plain old personnel swap.

 

This is probably a reason to seriously consider moving Vlad to Seattle right now. Dipoto is all over the place and their farm system is one of the best.

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The trade deadline's getting weird, Crochet the trailblazer, and 7 other observations

https://thescore.com/mlb/news/3043943

 

Interesting little article. Did you guys hear Crochet is demanding an extension for him to pitch in October? Never heard of that before. Can a player actually just refuse to play in the playoffs???

 

Also the first I've read about a "cover 2 defense" and suppressing doubles.

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The trade deadline's getting weird, Crochet the trailblazer, and 7 other observations

https://thescore.com/mlb/news/3043943

 

Interesting little article. Did you guys hear Crochet is demanding an extension for him to pitch in October? Never heard of that before. Can a player actually just refuse to play in the playoffs???

 

Also the first I've read about a "cover 2 defense" and suppressing doubles.

 

I get why Crochet would want to make such a demand but he doesn't have nearly the pedigree nor leverage to do so. Plus where is the competitive spirit? If he feels he has limited time in his baseball career, wouldn't winning a championship be top priority? Enjoy throwing whatever pitches you have left for a last place team, Garrett.

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Interesting little article. Did you guys hear Crochet is demanding an extension for him to pitch in October? Never heard of that before. Can a player actually just refuse to play in the playoffs???

 

Have never heard of a player make such a demand before. Which means, the answer is very very likely no. It would not end well if he tries such a thing.

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