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Olerud363 FCL Blue Jays

Olerud363

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Hypothetically if a pitching staff struck out everyone, walked no one. Gave up no contact except for once a game....

 

Gave up 1 100 mph flyball to centerfield at 27 degrees.

 

What would be the park factor of that team?

 

Let's say their home park was one of these parks where the ball didn't travel. They would never give up a run at home, and for this pitching staff

 

ERA at home = 0.00

ERA on road = 0.50 (sometimes that one flyball would leave sometimes not)

 

Are JimCanuck and Cornorp right afterall?

 

My intuition is they are right in a hypthetical toy example way... but in a practical sense the non-linearity isn't too strong.

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Reading way too much into what I posted. Someone said the safeco factor is 88. I responded that the ass M's offense could be a reason. If the park factor drops from 89 to 88 in a year, as I said it's most likely Stat noise from non-linearity and bias effects.

 

Nothing in a universe of electrons randomly spinning around nucleii is truly linear.

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Olerud363

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If the red Sox increase the number of right handed hitters this off-season, the fenway park factor likely increases.

 

Sortof. Lots of left handers love Fenway though (Boggs, Greenwell, Ortiz, Mo Vaughn, Devers) because the 345 oppo pop fly's are good stuff.

 

The Baltimore freak park is probably a good example too. lol. Baltimore is stacking with left handers.

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The Baltimore freak park is probably a good example too. lol. Baltimore is stacking with left handers.

 

We need a complete and total shutdown of the Camden Yards park dimensions until we can figure out what the hell is going on

 

Never seen such blatant rigging of a park in my life. They should be fined draft picks on a yearly basis until they change it back.

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Hotlanta just announced Riley's done for 6-8 weeks. Oof... fractured hand.

 

Also this an interesting read of a 6 inning minimum that's been floated around by the MLB...

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/40847173/mlb-rule-changes-2024-six-inning-starting-pitcher-injuries-tommy-john

 

Geez another big blow for the Braves this season. Talk about bad luck.

 

Acuna, Albies, Harris (missed a lot of time earlier), Murphy (missed a lot of time earlier), Strider, Minter and now Riley gone for 6-8 weeks. It's remarkable how they're 66-58 and holding down the #3 Wildcard spot. Soler has been out of the lineup for a couple days as well with an injury.

Olerud363 FCL Blue Jays

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We need a complete and total shutdown of the Camden Yards park dimensions until we can figure out what the hell is going on

 

Never seen such blatant rigging of a park in my life. They should be fined draft picks on a yearly basis until they change it back.

 

 

Probably just random but anecdotally it seems like the right handed road hitters are purposely avoiding pulling the ball there.

 

I honestly thought some nightmare scenario where Vlad Guerrero Jr. hit's a 415 foot fly ball out to left then Cowser or Cedrics or someone hits a 328 foot pop fly homer to right to win a game would have happened by now... don't really remember it though.

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Probably just random but anecdotally it seems like the right handed road hitters are purposely avoiding pulling the ball there.

 

I honestly thought some nightmare scenario where Vlad Guerrero Jr. hit's a 415 foot fly ball out to left then Cowser or Cedrics or someone hits a 328 foot pop fly homer to right to win a game would have happened by now... don't really remember it though.

 

IIRC wasn’t there that low-scoring game early this season where Romano blew the save with a walkoff homer just over the RF wall?

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on a 3 - 0 count Alvarez walks off the Orioles - and had to go back and tocuh home plate

 

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85 Stuff+

 

he is COOKED and it's a miracle that he has a decent ERA/FIP

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85 Stuff+

 

he is COOKED and it's a miracle that he has a decent ERA/FIP

 

Gotta love the twitter responses chalking it up to not being fit for the pressure of the closers role.

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1000% they changed the formula. You can see on Wikipedia even it was changed. It did not include the teams road contests. I absolutely got the better of Tom Tango last year in our debate, and he got his ass back in the kitchen and then made some calls. You’re welcome

 

Who did what now?

 

Park factors are right here and they are done properly:

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/statcast-park-factors

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1000% they changed the formula. You can see on Wikipedia even it was changed. It did not include the teams road contests. I absolutely got the better of Tom Tango last year in our debate, and he got his ass back in the kitchen and then made some calls. You’re welcome

 

Lmao

Olerud363 FCL Blue Jays

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IIRC wasn’t there that low-scoring game early this season where Romano blew the save with a walkoff homer just over the RF wall?

 

Rutschman hit a 347 9/30 homer to win that game.

 

What will have to happen eventually is some game where the opponent, late in the game, hits a like 29/30 fly ball for an out to left and the Orioles hit a 9/30 to right to win it.

 

So we had part of it that game, but no Jays hit a fly ball to left that would have been a homer in other parks.

 

fyi the a/b thing is from statscast where they tell how many parks the fly ball would have been a homer in. So Rutschman's was a 9/30, plus hit in the exact right spot... lol

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Zero embarrassment. We learn new stuff all the time. Only God is all knowing, my friend. When someone can make a point, always take it in. Most people just argue like a brick wall, until they’re blue in the face.

 

So my ongoing problem with wRC+, was really cleared up learning they how the formulate Park Factor separate. I thought it was like fly balls and batted data stuff. It’s still imperfect like anything else, but there’s not the hole to drive a truck through in wRC+ I thought there was.

 

Did I ever claim if a took a quiz against the Poindexters in Baseball Sabr, that I’d win? I don’t believe I have ever done that, Spank-off. Do you want to try digging up where I did?

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1000% they changed the formula. You can see on Wikipedia even it was changed. It did not include the teams road contests. I absolutely got the better of Tom Tango last year in our debate, and he got his ass back in the kitchen and then made some calls. You’re welcome

 

tenor.gif

 

Zero embarrassment. We learn new stuff all the time. Only God is all knowing, my friend. When someone can make a point, always take it in. Most people just argue like a brick wall, until they’re blue in the face.

 

So my ongoing problem with wRC+, was really cleared up learning they how the formulate Park Factor separate. I thought it was like fly balls and batted data stuff. It’s still imperfect like anything else, but there’s not the hole to drive a truck through in wRC+ I thought there was.

 

Did I ever claim if a took a quiz against the Poindexters in Baseball Sabr, that I’d win? I don’t believe I have ever done that, Spank-off. Do you want to try digging up where I did?

 

lol... fool.

Jimcanuck Buffalo Bisons

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Zero embarrassment. We learn new stuff all the time. Only God is all knowing, my friend. When someone can make a point, always take it in. Most people just argue like a brick wall, until they’re blue in the face.

 

So my ongoing problem with wRC+, was really cleared up learning they how the formulate Park Factor separate. I thought it was like fly balls and batted data stuff. It’s still imperfect like anything else, but there’s not the hole to drive a truck through in wRC+ I thought there was.

 

Did I ever claim if a took a quiz against the Poindexters in Baseball Sabr, that I’d win? I don’t believe I have ever done that, Spank-off. Do you want to try digging up where I did?

 

The reality is Tango has not been back after being subjected to your idiocy. Good job Connor.

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The reality is Tango has not been back after being subjected to your idiocy. Good job Connor.

 

Jimmy he came back last night

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