Around Baseball 2024

[Pendleton]

 

Prospects will break your heart

[jaysblue]

Well for at least the 5th year in a row, Jays are a disappointment and this time so bad, they may not make the playoffs. Farm is bare. Future looks s*****. I’m sorry you get offended when people second guess these last few years and say they should’ve done that or this. Come to think of, maybe they chose just completely do away with sports radio, all the ESPNs of the world, NFL/NBA Gamedays. We should just not speculate on what any team could’ve done better. The world according to Brownie

 

He's one of the most insufferable posters on this board. You're not allowed to criticize Atkins or this front office and have any baseball discussion on things the Blue Jays could have done or could do according to Brownie. Atkins and the front office know everything and ought not to be questioned!

[BigCecil]

Angel is retiring after torturing fans for 34 long years as umpire. I saw on news over coffee this am. Great news.

[John_Havok]

Angel is retiring after torturing fans for 34 long years as umpire. I saw on news over coffee this am. Great news.

 

Best call of his career

[Laika]

Baseball with no Angel Hernandez, no Joe West

 

hmmmmm who are the worst umpires now?

[harvey16]

Here is a hot take. I think Robo umps will be bad for baseball. Because any pitch that even touches the zone even by a hair will now be called a strike it will give pitchers a greater advantage. I think it will benefit pitchers more then it does hitters. Anyone know the stats if currently more strikes are called balls or is it vise versa?

[Omar]

Here is a hot take. I think Robo umps will be bad for baseball. Because any pitch that even touches the zone even by a hair will now be called a strike it will give pitchers a greater advantage. I think it will benefit pitchers more then it does hitters. Anyone know the stats if currently more strikes are called balls or is it vise versa?

 

Maybe in the long run it will benefit pitchers? I don't think so though. In the short term hitters won't be robbed of ab's because the ump is calling strikes for pitches six inches off the plate. Also the batters will appreciate the consistency of the strike zone and adapt accordingly as time passes. Advantage batters.

Edited May 28, 2024 by Omar

[Laika]

Here is a hot take. I think Robo umps will be bad for baseball. Because any pitch that even touches the zone even by a hair will now be called a strike it will give pitchers a greater advantage. I think it will benefit pitchers more then it does hitters. Anyone know the stats if currently more strikes are called balls or is it vise versa?

 

It will go both ways.

 

Certain pitches that NEVER get called a strike but clip the zone will get called a strike. That will be s***** for hitters and piss them off. Think, hanging curveballs that clip the top of the zone.

 

But other pitches that OFTEN get called a strike but do not touch the zone will rightly be balls. How many times to the Blue Jays RHB get f***ed over, per game, by pitches away or down and away that are clearly off the plate?

 

Hard to say how it will balance out. The called strike zone is an oval (or rectangle thingy with rounded corners) and the rulebook zone is a rectangle.

[Brownie19]

Here is a hot take. I think Robo umps will be bad for baseball. Because any pitch that even touches the zone even by a hair will now be called a strike it will give pitchers a greater advantage. I think it will benefit pitchers more then it does hitters. Anyone know the stats if currently more strikes are called balls or is it vise versa?

 

So the strike zone will be called as per the rules of baseball? Sure there will be some strikes called that seem odd, but that's simply because we aren't used to it. Hitters and fans will both adjust and the game will be called as per the rulebook. That doesn't seem all that bad to me.

[Brownie19]

Baseball with no Angel Hernandez, no Joe West

 

hmmmmm who are the worst umpires now?

 

CB Bucknor?

[Krylian]

A big loss for MLB.

 

Big loss for Twitter

[Jimcanuck]

roboumps in MILB has favoured the hitters, by a fair bit

 

will be the same in MLB

[BTS]

roboumps in MILB has favoured the hitters, by a fair bit

 

will be the same in MLB

 

Good. Bring back command guys with 91 mph heat and phase out the 96 and a slider guys who have no idea where the ball is going.

[Jimcanuck]

Good. Bring back command guys with 91 mph heat and phase out the 96 and a slider guys who have no idea where the ball is going.

 

Yes, I much prefer the guys that have 4-5 pitches and command. Beuhrle is the Jays pitcher of recent years I most liked to watch.

[Laika]

Good. Bring back command guys with 91 mph heat and phase out the 96 and a slider guys who have no idea where the ball is going.

 

why would that happen though?

 

command guys famously play with expanded strike zones and some of them live by getting calls one inch off the plate

 

stuff guys who can get swing and miss in the zone might become even more important now

[Omar]

why would that happen though?

 

command guys famously play with expanded strike zones and some of them live by getting calls one inch off the plate

 

stuff guys who can get swing and miss in the zone might become even more important now

 

Pitch to contact guys: " So what's the big deal?"

[Jimcanuck]

why would that happen though?

 

command guys famously play with expanded strike zones and some of them live by getting calls one inch off the plate

 

stuff guys who can get swing and miss in the zone might become even more important now

 

true, its hard to say, i think the command guys will still induce swings outside the zone, the guys will no command much less so. overall impact in favour of the command guys

[Brownie19]

Good. Bring back command guys with 91 mph heat and phase out the 96 and a slider guys who have no idea where the ball is going.

 

I think the majority of baseball fans would prefer this. As Laika said, I'm just not so sure robo umps are going to help bring it back. I'm not 100% sure what will because the evidence is pretty clear that we've figured out how to get more and more pitchers throwing 96+ and their margin of error is significantly higher than it is for guys who throw 91.

[BTS]

why would that happen though?

 

command guys famously play with expanded strike zones and some of them live by getting calls one inch off the plate

 

stuff guys who can get swing and miss in the zone might become even more important now

 

I'm thinking command guys could exploit areas of the strike zone that don't really get called strikes now, and that hitters can't hit. The corners are basically shaved off the zone as its actually called, and IIRC the zone that umpires call is like inches lower than the actual top of the strike zone.

 

But what you're suggesting also makes sense. So who knows.

[Stangstag]

I'm thinking command guys could exploit areas of the strike zone that don't really get called strikes now, and that hitters can't hit. The corners are basically shaved off the zone as its actually called, and IIRC the zone that umpires call is like inches lower than the actual top of the strike zone.

 

But what you're suggesting also makes sense. So who knows.

 

High Curves at the letters will be the new meta

[Terminator]

I'm thinking command guys could exploit areas of the strike zone that don't really get called strikes now, and that hitters can't hit. The corners are basically shaved off the zone as its actually called, and IIRC the actual zone that umpires call is like inches lower than the actual top of the strike zone.

 

But what you're suggesting also makes sense. So who knows.

 

Yeah if a pitcher can spin a breaking ball through the very outer edge of the zone, to the point where the ball is only in the zone for split second it takes to trigger a strike by the roboump, the pitch will be very difficult to hit.

 

You'd also think it would help the stuff guys in situations where they miss their spot but the ball is still in the strike zone. If the Catcher has to flail to catch the pitch, the umps now generally call it a ball, even if the pitch was in the zone.

[Laika]

I'm thinking command guys could exploit areas of the strike zone that don't really get called strikes now, and that hitters can't hit. The corners are basically shaved off the zone as its actually called, and IIRC the zone that umpires call is like inches lower than the actual top of the strike zone.

 

But what you're suggesting also makes sense. So who knows.

 

Yeah some good command guys have started doing this with high two-seamers (bassitt) and sweepers/cutters

 

aiming for the high corners of the zone more often

 

mostly for whiffs right now though, not called strikes

[Brownie19]

High Curves at the letters will be the new meta

 

I throw that s*** in MLB The Show all the time - always works!

[Brownie19]

Yeah some good command guys have started doing this with high two-seamers (bassitt) and sweepers/cutters

 

aiming for the high corners of the zone more often

 

mostly for whiffs right now though, not called strikes

 

Bassitt likes to throw the high cutter I believe.

[BTS]

Bassitt likes to throw the high cutter I believe.

 

Nestor Cortes and Zack Littell also do this by design. Successful junkballers all of them

[jaysblue]

Angel is retiring after torturing fans for 34 long years as umpire. I saw on news over coffee this am. Great news.

 

Baseball just got a lot better!

[wilko]

Mike Clevinger on the IL... Jake Woodford called up to start tonight against the Jays.

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/05/white-sox-to-place-mike-clevinger-on-il-due-to-elbow-soreness.html

[Barrelsandbombs]

[Stangstag]

 

Why tho?

[Jimcanuck]

Why tho?

 

It would be the right thing to do? The records would still be separated as Negro, AL, NL. Studies of the performance of Negro League players who joined MLB at the time of integration indicate they were of comparable quality. The historical perception of the Negro League as inferior is probably wrong.