Ohtani Thread - Special Sheriff's Edition (Update: confirmed going to the Dodgers)

[Gen.Disarray]

The funny part is, from a baseball standpoint this probably isn't even a smart signing.

 

You have a guy who's already on his second elbow surgery in a matter of a few years, even when he comes back to pitch, who knows how long he can do both at an elite level, yet he will be paid an enormous sum of money for a significant amount of time based on the assumption that he does both for at least a large portion of that contract. It's also assuming that his body doesn't wear down in general and his ability to hit at a high level also declines rapidly.

 

Yet, everybody wants him, and nobody really cares about such risk in this moment. The anticipation has built to a fever pitch. The pain of rejection would be significant.

 

This a good post. And I hate it

[Marew]

There is no risk in ohtani. There used to be risk. But like I said he’s like Bitcoin, his value may vary slightly but ultimately ohtani is the ultimate store of value next to Bitcoin. It literally cannot physically go down long term.

 

So worst case we unload him to the Yankees in 2026 for their whole farm system

[Bear]

I'm going to be bald and unemployed if this goes on for much longer.

[Stangstag]

Don’t lose hope people!! Even though Shohei wasn’t on the flight, the report from the Dodgers Nation guy is still potentially true.

 

 

This report and the whole flight thing don’t contradict each other. Very possible this is still accurate. The only odd part is that nobody else has corroborated yet.

[Jimcanuck]

I am 1000% sure Shohei is a Jay, and it will be announced tomorrow.

 

I don't care if BNS and Shi poo-poo'ed DodgersNation, that just tells me they want to stay on Ohtani's good side (the whole secrecy thing)

[Stangstag]

Twisted Logic got absolutely bodied in this comment chain lol

 

[Laika]

Twisted Logic got absolutely bodied in this comment chain lol

 

 

His name is Nope now

[max silver]

Twisted Logic got absolutely bodied in this comment chain lol

 

 

That dude has had a rough couple of days online.

[BaseballIsLife]

Don’t lose hope people!! Even though Shohei wasn’t on the flight, the report from the Dodgers Nation guy is still potentially true.

 

 

This report and the whole flight thing don’t contradict each other. Very possible this is still accurate. The only odd part is that nobody else has corroborated yet.

 

Good post. This is far from over for Toronto. We all know how flimsy Morosi is so in the back of my mind, I wasn’t believing it. But others that have a good track record haven’t given up on this for Toronto. So there’s hope I agree.

[glory]

[BaseballIsLife]

 

Not personally attacking Morosi but this is a load of crap. He does this with almost everything he says regarding player movement - guesswork and most of it doesn’t stick. And yet MLB network still talks to him. He’s a hack with respect to journalism. Again, not personal. But maybe this gig isn’t for him.

[Jimcanuck]

Not personally attacking Trollosi but this is a load of crap. He does this with almost everything he says regarding player movement - guesswork and most of it doesn’t stick. And yet MLB network still talks to him. He’s a hack with respect to journalism. Again, not personal. But maybe this gig isn’t for him.

 

Fixed

[Jays24]

jphoornstra's comment on "[Game Thread] Shohei Ohtani" No problem. I’ll post a follow-up story no later than tomorrow morning whether there is new news to report or not. I haven’t heard anything from my sources that would contradict what I originally reported: that Ohtani chose the Jays.

[L54]

I am 1000% sure Shohei is a Jay, and it will be announced tomorrow.

 

I don't care if BNS and Shi poo-poo'ed DodgersNation, that just tells me they want to stay on Ohtani's good side (the whole secrecy thing)

 

You’re right about the Blue Jays guys, they have been directed to not say s***

[L54]

I wonder how much would be left to spend if they’re paying Ohtani 45M/year?

[Sorrow]

I wonder how much would be left to spend if they’re paying Ohtani 45M/year?

 

My understanding is that the money they had to work with outside of Ohtani is still available to them. I won't have a chance to talk to my friend who knows more than I in regards to this for a few weeks as he's taking the remainder of the month off and going remote somewhere with limited reception.

[Omar]

You’re right about the Blue Jays guys, they have been directed to not say s***

 

 

Isn't that everyone has been directed to do?

[John_Havok]

I wonder how much would be left to spend if they’re paying Ohtani 45M/year?

 

At that point I believe Rogers would give them almost carte blanche to do what they need to do to shore up the rest of the roster. No way they land Ohtani and call it a day.

 

I'd sign Yamamoto and Hader, then start trading the excess as best you can to fill the gaps.

[John_Havok]

Isn't that everyone has been directed to do?

 

Everyone in front offices yes. He can't expect reporters not to report

[John_Havok]

My understanding is that the money they had to work with outside of Ohtani is still available to them. I won't have a chance to talk to my friend who knows more than I in regards to this for a few weeks as he's taking the remainder of the month off and going remote somewhere with limited reception.

 

What I was hearing on MLB Network and some other places prior to the winter meetings was that there was a budget that included landing Ohtani, and a budget without him.

 

It was implied that the budget with Ohtani still had lots of room for additions, but the one without him was much lower. Probably a " if we don't get Ohtani we aren't gonna go nuts" know kind of deal.

[Jays24]

I wonder how much would be left to spend if they’re paying Ohtani 45M/year?

 

45M/year would be a bargain. Part of me feels like it'll be 50M minimum with a chance of 55MM with incentives.

[Sorrow]

What I was hearing on MLB Network and some other places prior to the winter meetings was that there was a budget that included landing Ohtani, and a budget without him.

 

It was implied that the budget with Ohtani still had lots of room for additions, but the one without him was much lower. Probably a " if we don't get Ohtani we aren't gonna go nuts" know kind of deal.

 

I was looking through texts and my friend thinks if they get Ohtani they have $40m to work with and if they don't $50m

[L54]

My understanding is that the money they had to work with outside of Ohtani is still available to them. I won't have a chance to talk to my friend who knows more than I in regards to this for a few weeks as he's taking the remainder of the month off and going remote somewhere with limited reception.

 

Wow that’s like 70-80M in salary they’re committed to taking on. A lot of holes to fill still, a couple of trades seems likely

[L54]

45M/year would be a bargain. Part of me feels like it'll be 50M minimum with a chance of 55MM with incentives.

 

Well depends on the years. 45 AAV for 13 years is 585M. I think the years will be long to avoid the higher AAV for luxury tax purposes

[Sorrow]

Wow that’s like 70-80M in salary they’re committed to taking on. A lot of holes to fill still, a couple of trades seems likely

 

I think we'll see a SP signed and maybe a LF on a budget but the team will trade for a 3B.

[Omar]

Twisted Logic got absolutely bodied in this comment chain lol

 

 

Was Nope really the source for Morosi's ill advised tweet?

[Jays24]

I was looking through texts and my friend thinks if they get Ohtani they have $40m to work with and if they don't $50m

 

Wow... so we have a chance to get Ohtani while only losing 10M in our budgeting. This is pretty much the difference of having a legit world series favourite to what we had last year. Unreal

[G-Snarls]

You’re right about the Blue Jays guys, they have been directed to not say s***

 

Even retired players like Vernon Wells apparently LOL

[G-Snarls]

Jays have leaked NOTHING

 

He has to be happy about that

[L54]

I think we'll see a SP signed and maybe a LF on a budget but the team will trade for a 3B.

 

I think you’re right that third will be addressed via trade. Outside of Chapman there is hardly anyone even worth signing