General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2023)

[BCZ]

I pored over his numbers to try and see if he has manifested "another level" previously and it all looks about the same to me. 2024 Kiermaier will be just about the same as past Kiermaier's. Which is pretty good overall, but there will be no "other levels".

[Dick_Pole]

No they don’t lol

 

Offseason isn't over yet and I'm not sure that's true - but thanks for your opinion Dick.

 

89-73. Pythag also 89-73

-4 Chapman

+1 Kiner

+4 Varsho = from 2 to 6 WAR

 

Not sure why this got this type of reaction. Nothing I said was particularly outlandish nor did I go very hard at it. At least Havoc was like "yeah maybe what about projections"?

 

Reality hurts I guess. I am not so bullish on this team like I was the last two years. Unless things change roster wise materially between now and April.

[John_Havok]

I pored over his numbers to try and see if he has manifested "another level" previously and it all looks about the same to me. 2024 Kiermaier will be just about the same as past Kiermaier's. Which is pretty good overall, but there will be no "other levels".

 

The only next level for KK is avoiding the IL. If he does that, he’s potentially 3+ fWAR. With injuries…maybe 1-1.5.

[Stangstag]

89-73. Pythag also 89-73

-4 Chapman

+1 Kiner

+4 Varsho = from 2 to 6 WAR

 

Not sure why this got this type of reaction. Nothing I said was particularly outlandish nor did I go very hard at it. At least Havoc was like "yeah maybe what about projections"?

 

Reality hurts I guess. I am not so bullish on this team like I was the last two years. Unless things change roster wise materially between now and April.

 

Idk why you would assume that every player on the team plays at exactly the same level.

 

Also you’re missing other moves like - Belt, - Hicks, + Green

 

Just a stupid comment overall

[Eat My Shatkins]

What if Vladdy gets 6 WAR and Kirk gets 4?

 

 

How many WAR does Varsho need then for the Jays to get 90 wins?

 

lol

[L54]

What if Vladdy gets 6 WAR and Kirk gets 4?

 

 

How many WAR does Varsho need then for the Jays to get 90 wins?

 

lol

 

What if Vlad has zero and Kirk has 1

[max silver]

What if Vlad has zero and Kirk has 1

 

Then the team is basically s*** out of luck.

[RobinThicc]

So what are the Jays taking Vlad to arb?

[TheHurl]

What if Vlad has zero and Kirk has 1

 

Makes for some easy decisions. Fire everyone. Start over

[L54]

Makes for some easy decisions. Fire everyone. Start over

 

Sure would

[L54]

Vlad flirted with zero for most of the season

[Jays24]

Vlad's gonna be hearing some hard truths during the arb case to the point he might stop dumping Gatorade on his teammates finally lol.

[Stangstag]

Vlad's gonna be hearing some hard truths during the arb case to the point he might stop dumping Gatorade on his teammates finally lol.

 

Lol yeah, I feel like he actually needs to experience this arb hearing. Maybe take him down a few pegs

[Eat My Shatkins]

Why is there two General Jays Discussions threads going?

[Jays24]

Blue Jays, Guerrero fail to reach deal, will head to arbitration https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2819429

 

Vladdy wants 19.9 while the Jays are offering 18.05, which are both less than the projected amount.