L54 Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 Still have to bring an infielder in probably either through FA or trade 1B: Vlad, Horwitz 2B: Biggio, Espinal, Schneider, Barger SS: Bo, Espinal, Clement 3B: Barger, Espinal I think Espinal’s days are numbered heading into next year. No way they can bank on filling both second and third internally if they want to be serious
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 Atkins had a live presser this afternoon, wasn't aware... anyhow, I can't find the full interview... Here's a couple links... https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/video/atkins-believes-in-blue-jays-hitting-approach-despite-dip-in-production/ https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/video/i-feel-good-about-the-team-atkins-confident-in-blue-jays-offence-and-defence/ https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/video/blue-jays-atkins-gives-latest-on-manoahs-health-future-plans/ I actually forced myself to listen to him for a change. Typical Ross - Ned Flanders GM speak. Trust the process. Batted ball numbers impress them but not getting the results. Nobody is pressing that they see. Manoah was being checked out health wise before going down. They like their team. The end.
RustyTrombone Verified Member Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 I think if you can’t bring Chapman back you need to get Candalerio. There are not any good other options at 3B on the market. You dont want Chapman back......
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 How soon are we to having Dan and Ben Shulman calling games for the Jays? I've enjoyed listening to Ben on the radio this year.
hanton Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 it's pretty rare for a FA to re-sign anyway, the last one that I can remmber is LeMahieu. FA's will normally just go to the highest bidder - and so they should
glory Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 I'd want no part of Chapman on a big contract in his 30's. Let him leave as a FA. Ideally the Jays would use some of their AAA depth to fill 2024 holes, but a lot will depend on how they finish the season. If they make the playoffs, then job security is a bit more secure so they might be willing to take a risk on a younger talent, but if they miss the playoffs, then my guess is it will be vetrin central next season. The way they have used Davis Schneider so far doesn't give me much hope of them going the younger route next season so we should probably anticipate stopgaps regardless.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 You dont want Chapman back...... I will take him back at the right price. He's kinda bombing his money right now though.
Captain_Obvious Verified Member Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 I will take him back at the right price. He's kinda bombing his money right now though. Maybe if we did not have Barger and Olervis in AAA. No need to spend money on a declining Chapman.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 Maybe if we did not have Barger and Olervis in AAA. No need to spend money on a declining Chapman. I believe in both those guys. They are going to be on this team. I view Barger as more of a Utility guy. But Martinez when he comes up will be playing everyday somewhere. Whether it's 3B or 2B. Not ruling out LF for him either. With that being said I am not going to pass at bringing back Veterans at good prices. It would be quite interesting if they moved on from Kiermaier, Merrifield, Belt, and Chapman and just replaced them with rookies. Schneider, Barger, Martinez, and Howritz.
spats Verified Member Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 I believe in both those guys. They are going to be on this team. I view Barger as more of a Utility guy. But Martinez when he comes up will be playing everyday somewhere. Whether it's 3B or 2B. Not ruling out LF for him either. With that being said I am not going to pass at bringing back Veterans at good prices. It would be quite interesting if they moved on from Kiermaier, Merrifield, Belt, and Chapman and just replaced them with rookies. Schneider, Barger, Martinez, and Howritz. I can live with Schneider, Barger, Martinez and Horowitz. The only one I would miss would be Belt, especially his interviews.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 I can live with Schneider, Barger, Martinez and Horowitz. The only one I would miss would be Belt, especially his interviews. I'll miss Belt if they don't try to attain the man, I'd offer a similar contract at 10M to come back. The Jays can't expect that many AAA guys stepping in, can't see it... should be an interesting offseason coming up.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 Even though Vladito's been scuffling all year he's been decent the last 2 weeks with a .295 BA and .766 OPS, he's missing that ooomph... .091 ISO and .386 SLG is still rough... here's to hoping. Please, be better Vlad!
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 it's pretty rare for a FA to re-sign anyway, the last one that I can remmber is LeMahieu. FA's will normally just go to the highest bidder - and so they should And Judge lol
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 Even though Vladito's been scuffling all year he's been decent the last 2 weeks with a .295 BA and .766 OPS, he's missing that ooomph... .091 ISO and .386 SLG is still rough... here's to hoping. Please, be better Vlad! A .766 OPS is horrendous for an all bat 1B, like legitimately below replacement level. The power numbers needless to say are vomit inducing not just for the position, but his build and former track record.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 Vlad going the Eric Hinske and Brett Lawrie route
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 Some people here are eternally optimistic. Some people here, want to see the world burn.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 A .766 OPS is horrendous for an all bat 1B, like legitimately below replacement level. The power numbers needless to say are vomit inducing not just for the position, but his build and former track record. Please, be better, Vlad!
BlueBaller Verified Member Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 Some people here, want to see the world burn. And some just see it as it is.
WryNGinger Verified Member Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 Vlad going the Eric Hinske and Brett Lawrie route Playing way below expectations and still acting like a clown with his ice baths and strutting around with his shirt untucked pisses me off. I have watched his progress since we signed him all those years ago and was really excited watching him advance up each level but he is becoming one of my least favourite Jay's. Add to that his "safe" calls when he is running and (to me) he has become a guy I want to see humbled so he starts respecting the game and his talents more.
RustyTrombone Verified Member Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 Playing way below expectations and still acting like a clown with his ice baths and strutting around with his shirt untucked pisses me off. I have watched his progress since we signed him all those years ago and was really excited watching him advance up each level but he is becoming one of my least favourite Jay's. Add to that his "safe" calls when he is running and (to me) he has become a guy I want to see humbled so he starts respecting the game and his talents more. If he hasnt been humbled by this year or even last year then its not happening, it wont get through his thick skull.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 And some just see it as it is. The GBills' of the world.
BlueBaller Verified Member Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 The GBills' of the world. At least I was the right one. You're just in denial tho you seem to be inching towards the truth
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 At least I was the right one. You're just in denial tho you seem to be inching towards the truth At least you admitted you're G-Bill, moron. And your takes are useless.
BlueBaller Verified Member Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 At least you admitted you're G-Bill, moron. And your takes are useless. I don't know what you're talking about and I DGAF what you think of my opinions you are lying moron
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 I don't know what you're talking about and I DGAF what you think of my opinions you are lying moron *waves*
BlueBaller Verified Member Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 You thinking I'm some other poster is further proof of your lack of ability to sort fact from fiction.
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