wilko Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 What does a good start tomorrow even tell us if the assessment is results oriented? He is pitching against Detroit... So he does well and then goes and get bombed by the next team he faces..? If it is mental, physical, mechanics, maybe it will tell us something, but I assume they could have assessed that in the minors... Basically, I am worried about a false positive. The Tigers have a few thumpers in the lineup that can do damage. If he doesn't walk 4+ it would be a good start.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 What does a good start tomorrow even tell us if the assessment is results oriented? He is pitching against Detroit... So he does well and then goes and get bombed by the next team he faces..? If it is mental, physical, mechanics, maybe it will tell us something, but I assume they could have assessed that in the minors... Basically, I am worried about a false positive. Agreed and I think that's why they called him up this early. To get more data on him prior to the break. I think Hurl is right in that they called him up this early to see what they've got up until the trade deadline. If he can show that he can pitch like a decent #4/#5 starter then he and possibly Ryu can hold that spot down for the rest of the year. If not, then they'll need to make a trade for a Lorenzen type.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Isn't there a limit to how many times you can call a guy up and down? Not that Manoah is even close to that limit. However, if it goes bad tonight and they send him back down, that will count as #2 correct? Isn't it like 5 times after a certain amount of games played? IRCR....?
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Isn't there a limit to how many times you can call a guy up and down? Not that Manoah is even close to that limit. However, if it goes bad tonight and they send him back down, that will count as #2 correct? Isn't it like 5 times after a certain amount of games played? IRCR....? If you option a player back to the minors you can do it as many times as you want in the same season and it only counts as 1 option I think
JaysAllMighty Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Players may only be optioned five times per season; after that, it requires outright assignment waivers to assign the player to the Minor Leagues.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Players may only be optioned five times per season; after that, it requires outright assignment waivers to assign the player to the Minor Leagues. So 5 times per season. So if they did it 4 times in 2023 then they start at 0 for 2024 and they have another 5?
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 So 5 times per season. So if they did it 4 times in 2023 then they start at 0 for 2024 and they have another 5? Correct. they can option anyone up to 5 times per season and it would count as burning 1 option year whether they optioned him once or 5 times.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Dude, I know. It's funny. I meant the comments, my bad.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 What does a good start tomorrow even tell us if the assessment is results oriented? He is pitching against Detroit... So he does well and then goes and get bombed by the next team he faces..? If it is mental, physical, mechanics, maybe it will tell us something, but I assume they could have assessed that in the minors... Basically, I am worried about a false positive. *shits pants*
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 *shits pants* That was only during the 2019 NBA playoffs.. I eat a lot more fiber now
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Ok so we’re all idiots, Manoah was sick
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Based on the reaction of this board I expect Manoah to throw a perfect game with 15 Ks. Close enough. FO looks like geniuses calling him up for this one AAAA game right before the all-star break.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Close enough. FO looks like geniuses calling him up for this one AAAA game right before the all-star break. What was interesting to me was the mound behaviour. He was much more poised / more focussed / less emotional. So a little reset in the minors may have worked. Between the ears is a big part of pitching.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Close enough. FO looks like geniuses calling him up for this one AAAA game right before the all-star break. Oops... https://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/10602-General-Blue-Jays-Discussion-Thread-(2023)?p=1714406&viewfull=1#post1714406
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Most thought the earliest Manoah would be up is post the all star break. Since he is coming up earlier it may indicate that some of his problems were between the ears and Jays management might think they have fixed that. He may surprise us all and be competent. They’re not expecting an elite arm just competence. Perhaps he’s ready. What was interesting to me was the mound behaviour. He was much more poised / more focussed / less emotional. So a little reset in the minors may have worked. Between the ears is a big part of pitching. That was my thought when I heard he got called up. That being said, he may get rocked on his next start against the Dbacks or Padres.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 I Think the Jays need to have a planned parenthood meeting, everyone having their kids in spring training and the season, can nobody count 9 months and plan this s*** for the off-season? How many Jays have had a kid born this season already? They’ve lost a lot of games to pat leave and it’s annoying.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 I Think the Jays need to have a planned parenthood meeting, everyone having their kids in spring training and the season, can nobody count 9 months and plan this s*** for the off-season? How many Jays have had a kid born this season already? They’ve lost a lot of games to pat leave and it’s annoying. lol
Masterbather Verified Member Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 I Think the Jays need to have a planned parenthood meeting, everyone having their kids in spring training and the season, can nobody count 9 months and plan this s*** for the off-season? How many Jays have had a kid born this season already? They’ve lost a lot of games to pat leave and it’s annoying. People f*** when they f*** dude. Of all the legitimate things to complain about this team, that's way down on the list.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Just want a win tomorrow and regroup
WryNGinger Verified Member Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Gausman not going to the All-Star game is good news. Smart choice by him. Save the bullets
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Gausman not going to the All-Star game is good news. Smart choice by him. Save the bullets I was watching the D-Backs game and I swear I saw like 15 replacements to the game, lol.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Gausman not going to the All-Star game is good news. Smart choice by him. Save the bullets The rest days don’t line up for him to pitch Tuesday. And probably would rather spend time at home with the kids. Good for him
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 The rest days don’t line up for him to pitch Tuesday. And probably would rather spend time at home with the kids. Good for him Plus nobody wants to spend time in Seattle if they don’t have to. So gloomy.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 Anyone know who this twitter account is?
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 Plus nobody wants to spend time in Seattle if they don’t have to. So gloomy. Actually, if it is not gloomy, which it hasn't been recently, it is a beautiful place to be. I was just there the other week. The weather was awesome!
WryNGinger Verified Member Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 Anyone know who this twitter account is? No idea but I would like them to cherry pick the worst of the stats for their next post.
JFD Old-Timey Member Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 Anyone know who this twitter account is? I can't even see the tweet because Elon is a ****
JFD Old-Timey Member Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 Do you have balls dude? That's a limp dick weak sauce question bro but I'll let it slide this time because I know ur drunk
TheHurl Site Manager Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 Anyone know who this twitter account is? They were quick to follow the BJMB acct when it was created and followed all of the accts followers. So a poster here at least in 2017.
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