Around Baseball 2023

[Jimcanuck]

I'd be floored if Ohtani considered Detroit for even a millisecond over other markets. I'd also be floored to see Detroit be even close to offering the kind of money it would take to sign him.

 

That said, they certainly have the payroll space to do it. They're only projected at just over 70 million for 2024 and have spent big in the past.

 

Ya Detroit isn't a desirable location but who knows what Ohtani's motivations are

[John_Havok]

Ya Detroit isn't a desirable location but who knows what Ohtani's motivations are

 

Yeah, once a guy is in the kind of territory that he's in... 13 years 625 million from Detroit ... vs 13 years 600 million from say the Dodgers. Would a guy really go to Detroit just for the extra 2 million per season?

[jaysblue]

Cardinals 1-5 rotation now by age for the 2024 season.

 

Gray - 34

Lynn - 37

Mikolas - 35

Gibson - 36

Matz - 33

 

Blue Jays rotation by age for 2024:

 

Gausman - 33

Berrios - 30

Bassitt - 35

Kikuchi - 33

Manoah - 26

[Jimcanuck]

Yeah, once a guy is in the kind of territory that he's in... 13 years 625 million from Detroit ... vs 13 years 600 million from say the Dodgers. Would a guy really go to Detroit just for the extra 2 million per season?

 

Did a little googling, Tigers are linked to Yamamoto. Tigers signing Maeda is just interesting with Ohtani and Yamamoto on the market, and the Tigers payroll space.

[John_Havok]

Blue Jays rotation by age for 2024:

 

Gausman - 33

Berrios - 30

Bassitt - 35

Kikuchi - 33

Manoah - 26

 

So much better, I know.

[John_Havok]

Did a little googling, Tigers are linked to Yamamoto. Tigers signing Maeda is just interesting with Ohtani and Yamamoto on the market, and the Tigers payroll space.

 

Winter meetings are going to be very interesting to say the least. That when Yamamoto and his entourage will be in the US talking with interested teams.

[BTS]

Heyward staying with LA for 1 year 9M

[Ehjays]

 

He has timed his posting to be a week after Yamamoto. So the losers in YY bids turn to him.

[MikeM3]

Blue Jays rotation by age for 2024:

 

Gausman - 33

Berrios - 30

Bassitt - 35

Kikuchi - 33

Manoah - 26

 

Don't forget our #6 Wes Parsons 32 yo

[jaysblue]

Yeah, once a guy is in the kind of territory that he's in... 13 years 625 million from Detroit ... vs 13 years 600 million from say the Dodgers. Would a guy really go to Detroit just for the extra 2 million per season?

 

In the big picture, it's still $25M more.

 

Ohtani has spent his entire MLB career in the LA area already, so he either loves it there or wants a change of scenery. Downtown LA is really no different than Downtown Detroit lol. But LA has a lot better surrounding areas like Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, Malibu, along with better weather all year round and it's a bigger market. I doubt he signs in Detroit but if they end up signing Yamamoto, could make things interesting.

[jaysblue]

Heyward staying with LA for 1 year 9M

 

Nice move by the Dodgers keeping him. Wouldn't have minded Heyward here as a platoon bat in LF or DH, and as a backup CF at that price.

[Ehjays]

[jaysblue]

So much better, I know.

 

Yeah the Jays rotation is definitely better, but aren't you worried about their ages? Our top 4 arms are all above 30 and pretty expensive.

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[max silver]

Don't forget our #6 Wes Parsons 32 yo

 

Isn't that dude more like the #8 starter?

[Ehjays]

Cardinals 1-5 rotation now by age for the 2024 season.

 

Gray - 34

Lynn - 37

Mikolas - 35

Gibson - 36

Matz - 33

 

[max silver]

Yeah the Jays rotation is definitely better, but aren't you worried about their ages? Our top 4 arms are all above 30 and pretty expensive.

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The 30+ dudes all have pretty spotless health histories at the very least.

[John_Havok]

 

Makes sense, he's clearly too young for the Cards rotation.

[Brownie19]

Blue Jays rotation by age for 2024:

 

Gausman - 33

Berrios - 30

Bassitt - 35

Kikuchi - 33

Manoah - 26

 

I personally don't see a big concern with aging pitchers (neither in St. Louis or TO). Often by then, there's a lot less volatility and it doesn't seem like they are more injury prone (in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the opposite). My gut says pitchers are aging better than position players these days.

[max silver]

Nice move by the Dodgers keeping him. Wouldn't have minded Heyward here as a platoon bat in LF or DH, and as a backup CF at that price.

 

That's one guy we are in agreement on. I thought he would make a tremendous 4th outfielder/platoon bat but it's not surprising he would choose to return to the Dodgers.

[Brownie19]

Heyward staying with LA for 1 year 9M

 

That's way too much for Heyward IMO. I suspect there's a 70% chance that he turns back into a pumpkin next year.

[hanton]

Nice move by the Dodgers keeping him. Wouldn't have minded Heyward here as a platoon bat in LF or DH, and as a backup CF at that price.

 

He probably wanted to stay, very good signing by the Dodgers - they fixed another hitter

[John_Havok]

Yeah the Jays rotation is definitely better, but aren't you worried about their ages? Our top 4 arms are all above 30 and pretty expensive.

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Worried? Not really, not to the level that I would be if they all had big injury histories.

[Brownie19]

In the big picture, it's still $25M more.

 

 

That's a cup of coffee for Ohtani man. I'd be shocked if he just took the most money offered to him. He's going to go somewhere that's he's comfortable and believes in the FO and the Ownerships vision, both for their use of him and in the future of the team.

[MikeM3]

Isn't that dude more like the #8 starter?

 

Well Atkins was proud to mention Francis (a 2 IP reliever), Mitch White (DFAd then brought back then has to pass through waivers next year if we send him down) and Wes Parsons (the only actual SP that might be optionable?) as rotation depth.

 

I'm guessing it'll just be Ricky T for 3 innings at a time though.

[Laika]

Blue Jays rotation by age for 2024:

 

Gausman - 33

Berrios - 30

Bassitt - 35

Kikuchi - 33

Manoah - 26

 

younger and better!

[max silver]

Well Atkins was proud to mention Francis (a 2 IP reliever), Mitch White (DFAd then brought back then has to pass through waivers next year if we send him down) and Wes Parsons (the only actual SP that might be optionable?) as rotation depth.

 

I'm guessing it'll just be Ricky T for 3 innings at a time though.

 

White was throwing bullets/sitting mid to upper 90's to end the AAA season so he likely has a legitimate opportunity to be the swingman/6th starter. I would guess Francis is more than likely to be stretched back out in spring training next season. He was hurt in the spring and didn't have a chance to be fully stretched out before his eventual call-up. Maybe Parsons would receive a callup before Tiedemann if he's deemed not sufficiently prepared for MLB, but that leaves him as a more likely 8th rotation option vs 6th.

[L54]

Yeah I was kind of buying them as darkhorse AL Central candidates last year. Obviously didn't happen but maybe they can do it this year. Mildly interesting team but the Central helps.

 

Yup I think they’re looking decent. Baez contract is so bad

[L54]

Is Maeda a prelude to a big offer for Ohtani? Getting him, along with the Twins divesting assets, would immediately make the Tigers the division favourite. If not for Baez, the Tigers would be in a good position for a big Ohtani offer. Current 2024 payroll is $85M. $25M of that is for the aforementioned Baez, lol.

 

Hmmmm I doubt it but could be. I think they just saw a good pitcher available on a two year deal

[Frenchsoup]

Mozeliak winning the offseason so far, lets see what Gray got.

[L54]

Mozeliak winning the offseason so far, let’s see what Gray got.

 

He’s winning by default. Like at a tournament where only one game has been played so they’re 1-0 while everyone else is 0-0 except for the 0-1 team