Around Baseball 2023

[wilko]

 

Why alcohol? Is that a requirement or something when an ump asks you to wash your hands?

[Stangstag]

Help me understand this. He goes to the clubhouse, watches his hands, applies alcohol - all clean. It made it sound like he then applied the rosin again right away. Wouldn't you watch your hands again after using alcohol and dry them off and there'd be a period of time before you apply the rosin?

 

Is it correct that alcohol and rosin are stickier than water/sweat and rosin? I wonder if pitchers have been adding alcohol in the clubhouse right before they come out for an inning - not drying it off...

 

At the end of the day, if rosin is this sticky with sweat/alcohol, then surely that should be fine to satisfy claim that batters actually want pitchers to make sure they have a good grip.

 

I was listening to this broadcast the video is from and David Cone said usually you don't wanna wash hands with water because it can make your hands soft/pruney and have a negative effect. Washing with alcohol seems pretty standard from what he was saying. But he also said alcohol "activates" the rosin more than sweat or sunscreen

[Brownie19]

I was listening to this broadcast the video is from and David Cone said usually you don't wanna wash hands with water because it can make your hands soft/pruney and have a negative effect. Washing with alcohol seems pretty standard from what he was saying. But he also said alcohol "activates" the rosin more than sweat or sunscreen

 

Holy f*** that sounds ridiculous. How f***ing long is Cone washing his hands? If alcohol 'activates' the rosin more - then it sounds like that's exactly why they use it.

[Stangstag]

Holy f*** that sounds ridiculous. How f***ing long is Cone washing his hands? If alcohol 'activates' the rosin more - then it sounds like that's exactly why they use it.

 

Yeah its funny he was basically saying not a lot of guys did the rosin + other stuff because sometimes their hands got so sticky that the ball would peel off some skin when they threw it and he didn’t like that.

 

He went on to say that if they realized how much spin rate = more effective pitches then he would have been doing it and everyone else probably would too.

[Stangstag]

But anyways the problem here is that its very easy to mix rosin + other stuff and get a very sticky substance. Rosin is considered legal.

 

The best solution is to create a new ball like Japan has and don’t allow ANY substances. But then you still have the problem of sunscreen…

[Spanky99]

The MLBN's 'OFF BASE' have a segment coming up, Is Vladdy the Yankees Daddy? lmao... should be interesting.

[Spanky99]

Help me understand this. He goes to the clubhouse, watches his hands, applies alcohol - all clean. It made it sound like he then applied the rosin again right away. Wouldn't you watch your hands again after using alcohol and dry them off and there'd be a period of time before you apply the rosin?

 

Is it correct that alcohol and rosin are stickier than water/sweat and rosin? I wonder if pitchers have been adding alcohol in the clubhouse right before they come out for an inning - not drying it off...

 

At the end of the day, if rosin is this sticky with sweat/alcohol, then surely that should be fine to satisfy claim that batters actually want pitchers to make sure they have a good grip.

 

Yup, it's been historically known that hitters don't feel like getting plunked on any given pitch. Hah!

[Spanky99]

Holy f*** that sounds ridiculous. How f***ing long is Cone washing his hands? If alcohol 'activates' the rosin more - then it sounds like that's exactly why they use it.

 

He said that because it can take up to 20 minutes to get the rosin residue off the finger tips as it tends to clump up there, so in turn guys use alcohol swabs to get it off. That was the context of that. Alex Avila former catcher said he'd have to take 20+ minute showers to get it off after every game he caught.

[Jimcanuck]

Spencer Strider no-hitter through 7, with 11K. One baserunner, error by Olson.

[P2F]

Spencer Strider no-hitter through 7, with 11K. One baserunner, error by Olson.

Final line:

 

8 IP, 2 H, 0 BB, 13 K. 31 Swing & Misses.

 

What a baddie.

[Ray]

Chris Sale had two swings and misses out of the 83 pitches he threw against the O’s

 

Dudes cooked.

[jaysblue]

Final line:

 

8 IP, 2 H, 0 BB, 13 K. 31 Swing & Misses.

 

What a baddie.

 

He's the best!

 

I'm watching every Spencer Strider start this season on MLB TV and buying his jersey online.

 

Will also try to trade for him in every fantasy league.

[jaysblue]

Chris Sale had two swings and misses out of the 83 pitches he threw against the O’s

 

Dudes cooked.

 

He did strike out 11 against the Twins in his last start.

 

But yeah he is no longer an ace or front of the rotation starter. Doubt he even throws 150 innings for the Sox this season.

[Krylian]

Chris Sale had two swings and misses out of the 83 pitches he threw against the O’s

 

Dudes cooked.

 

Good.

[keggy]

Chris Sale had two swings and misses out of the 83 pitches he threw against the O’s

 

Dudes cooked.

 

He still has a higher K/9 than our entire rotation.

[Stangstag]

The Angels f***ing suck

[jaysblue]

The Angels f***ing suck

 

Ohtani definitely walks.

[BTS]

Every year I have to say I was wrong about the angels. This is me doing that this year.

[glory]

I hope for Ohtani's sake the Angels trade him at the deadline so he has a chance to play in the post season this year. I'm guessing Arte would rather lose him for nothing than risk a 2nd half nosedive in attendance, but maybe logic will prevail in the end.

[jaysblue]

Every year I have to say I was wrong about the angels. This is me doing that this year.

 

Yeah they're a tough team to watch because you want to root for them to do well and make the Postseason though it's the same thing every season with them. We'll never see Trout and Ohtani in the Postseason together in the same uniform which is such a huge disappointment from a fans perspective.

[Brownie19]

Jason Mackey of the Pittsburgh-Post Gazette reports the Pirates and outfielder Bryan Reynolds are in agreement on an eight-year, $106.75 million contract extension.

 

Rob Biertempfel of The Athletic adds that the deal includes a team option for 2031 and doesn't include any opt outs. After months of back-and-forth negotiations, the saga appears to finally be over. Reynolds is staying in Pittsburgh through at least 2030. The 28-year-old outfielder, who had two arbitration-eligible seasons left with the Pirates, has gotten off to a strong start this season at the dish, batting .294/.319/.553 with five homers, 18 RBI and three stolen bases across 94 plate appearances. He'll be one of Pittsburgh's foundational building blocks until further notice.

 

Nice to see Pittsburgh spending some money.

[Stangstag]

I hope for Ohtani's sake the Angels trade him at the deadline so he has a chance to play in the post season this year. I'm guessing Arte would rather lose him for nothing than risk a 2nd half nosedive in attendance, but maybe logic will prevail in the end.

 

They won't

[Stangstag]

Jason Mackey of the Pittsburgh-Post Gazette reports the Pirates and outfielder Bryan Reynolds are in agreement on an eight-year, $106.75 million contract extension.

 

Rob Biertempfel of The Athletic adds that the deal includes a team option for 2031 and doesn't include any opt outs. After months of back-and-forth negotiations, the saga appears to finally be over. Reynolds is staying in Pittsburgh through at least 2030. The 28-year-old outfielder, who had two arbitration-eligible seasons left with the Pirates, has gotten off to a strong start this season at the dish, batting .294/.319/.553 with five homers, 18 RBI and three stolen bases across 94 plate appearances. He'll be one of Pittsburgh's foundational building blocks until further notice.

 

Nice to see Pittsburgh spending some money.

 

Damn. Well at least this hurts his chances of becoming a Yankee at the deadline.

[John_Havok]

Jason Mackey of the Pittsburgh-Post Gazette reports the Pirates and outfielder Bryan Reynolds are in agreement on an eight-year, $106.75 million contract extension.

 

Rob Biertempfel of The Athletic adds that the deal includes a team option for 2031 and doesn't include any opt outs. After months of back-and-forth negotiations, the saga appears to finally be over. Reynolds is staying in Pittsburgh through at least 2030. The 28-year-old outfielder, who had two arbitration-eligible seasons left with the Pirates, has gotten off to a strong start this season at the dish, batting .294/.319/.553 with five homers, 18 RBI and three stolen bases across 94 plate appearances. He'll be one of Pittsburgh's foundational building blocks until further notice.

 

Nice to see Pittsburgh spending some money.

 

13 mill AAV...and Hayes is locked in a 7m AAV.

 

As it stands now, the Pirates have exactly those 2 guys on guaranteed deals for 2024 and beyond.

 

Gone via FA this upcoming offseason will be Hill (8m) Carlos santana (7m) Hedges and Cutch (5M each), Choi (4.7M) Velasquez (3.2m) and Stephenson (1.7M). They have a club option on Jarlin Garcia for 3.25 M. 3 guys hitting Arb 2 (Brubaker, Keller, and Underwood Jr) and 5 hitting Arb 1 (De Jong, Bednar, Crowe and Joe.

 

The rest of the roster is still league min. Estimated payroll for 2024 is about 30 million, plus whomever they add in the offseason.

 

Obviously Nutting is going to make a play for Shohei. He's got the space.

[Jonn]

Jason Mackey of the Pittsburgh-Post Gazette reports the Pirates and outfielder Bryan Reynolds are in agreement on an eight-year, $106.75 million contract extension.

 

Rob Biertempfel of The Athletic adds that the deal includes a team option for 2031 and doesn't include any opt outs. After months of back-and-forth negotiations, the saga appears to finally be over. Reynolds is staying in Pittsburgh through at least 2030. The 28-year-old outfielder, who had two arbitration-eligible seasons left with the Pirates, has gotten off to a strong start this season at the dish, batting .294/.319/.553 with five homers, 18 RBI and three stolen bases across 94 plate appearances. He'll be one of Pittsburgh's foundational building blocks until further notice.

 

Nice to see Pittsburgh spending some money.

 

 

Should have been a Blue Jay

[z3r0s]

Am I missing something on this deal? Seems terrible for Reynolds

[The Cats Ass]

Ohtani is going to stay in LA. But it won't be as an Angel. Dodgers have a bunch of contracts coming off the books.

[BTS]

Am I missing something on this deal? Seems terrible for Reynolds

 

I thought the same thing. Awful deal

[John_Havok]

Am I missing something on this deal? Seems terrible for Reynolds

 

It's probably just something he wanted to get done, see 100 million dollars in his future, and remain very tradeable.

[glory]

Am I missing something on this deal? Seems terrible for Reynolds

 

I could see his logic, though. He would have been a free agent at age 31, a full three seasons away, and at this point it looks like he's a corner OF instead of a CF which diminishes his value a bit. There was a lot going against him waiting for free agency. He tried to force his way out, which may have gotten him a bigger extension if he were traded to a non-cheap team, but when that ship sailed, he took the guaranteed money/security rather than risk waiting. It's a good deal for the Pirates, and Reynolds at least gets to say he got a $100 million contract.

 

As much as I would hate to see Nutting rewarded for his cheapness, I hope this is the beginning of a nice run for the Pirates. That fanbase will support a consistent winner and they have one of the best stadiums in the league. Cherington did alright all things considered. He took over a lousy team in 2020, stripped what was left of it down, and by 2023 they are starting to at least look competitive. We will see how long that lasts this season, and what happens in the future.