Around Baseball 2023

[connorp]

Maybe the guy is a true bum and did throw it at the baby. Certainly possible but more likely the baby wasn’t the intended target. If the baby wasnt, chalk it up to doing the judge, jury, executioner thing before you have the whole story

[connorp]

Sometimes I even lean into a wrong theory. I remember when the Bauer news broke and part of the story was he repeatedly punched her in the pussy (consensual part I think), I was assuming that probably happened as it’s oddly specific and was thinking what a fruit cake the guy was. Turns out that was false planted info to do maximum PR damage

[Pendleton]

Sometimes I even lean into a wrong theory

 

Even you?

[wilko]

Curious - is this worse than what Bauer did?

 

I'd say throwing tobacco (allegedly) at a baby is worse than having rough sex with someone who gave consent (allegedly).

[Jimcanuck]

Curious - is this worse than what Bauer did?

 

Impossible to answer without the actual evidence / facts.

[L54]

I’ll bet he gets less games than Bauer even without knowing what happened

[Spanky99]

So happy Spanky declined my many offers to overpay for Clev in the DDL

 

I have him in LOD too...

[BTS]

[Spanky99]

 

Yes.

[Krylian]

Maybe he'll go in wearing a Blue Jays jersey

[JaysAllMighty]

 

Happy for him. He was a great player.

[wilko]

Maybe he'll go in wearing a Blue Jays jersey

 

lol that would be hilarious.

[G-Snarls]

Happy for him. He was a great player.

 

Got 76% of votes this year

 

69.9 fWAR

Edited January 25, 2023 by G-Snarls

[G-Snarls]

https://www.mlb.com/news/baseball-hall-of-fame-2023-voting

 

Candidates needed 292 votes to be elected. Full BBWAA ballot results are below:

 

Scott Rolen: 297 votes, 76.3%

Todd Helton: 281 votes, 72.2%

Billy Wagner: 265 votes, 68.1%

Andruw Jones: 226 votes, 58.1%

Gary Sheffield: 214 votes, 55%

Carlos Beltrán: 181 votes, 46.5%

Jeff Kent: 181 votes, 46.5% (final year on ballot)

Alex Rodriguez: 139 votes, 35.7%

Manny Ramirez: 129 votes, 33.2%

Omar Vizquel: 76 votes, 19.5%

Andy Pettitte: 66 votes, 17%

Bobby Abreu: 60 votes, 15.4%

Jimmy Rollins: 50 votes, 12.9%

Mark Buehrle: 42 votes, 10.8%

Francisco Rodriguez: 42 votes, 10.8%

Torii Hunter: 27 votes, 6.9 percent

 

(Players receiving less than 5% will drop off future ballots)

 

Bronson Arroyo: 1 vote, 0.3%

R.A. Dickey: 1 vote, 0.3%

John Lackey: 1 vote, 0.3%

Mike Napoli: 1 vote, 0.3%

Huston Street: 1 vote, 0.3%

Matt Cain: 0 votes, 0%

Jacoby Ellsbury: 0 votes, 0%

Andre Ethier: 0 votes, 0%

J.J. Hardy: 0 votes, 0%

Jhonny Peralta: 0 votes, 0%

Jered Weaver: 0 votes, 0%

Jayson Werth: 0 votes, 0%

[G-Snarls]

2024 ballot addition: Adrián Beltré, Joe Mauer, Chase Utley

2025 ballot addition: Ichiro Suzuki

Edited January 25, 2023 by G-Snarls

[John_Havok]

https://www.mlb.com/news/baseball-hall-of-fame-2023-voting

 

Candidates needed 292 votes to be elected. Full BBWAA ballot results are below:

 

Scott Rolen: 297 votes, 76.3%

Todd Helton: 281 votes, 72.2%

Billy Wagner: 265 votes, 68.1%

Andruw Jones: 226 votes, 58.1%

Gary Sheffield: 214 votes, 55%

Carlos Beltrán: 181 votes, 46.5%

Jeff Kent: 181 votes, 46.5% (final year on ballot)

Alex Rodriguez: 139 votes, 35.7%

Manny Ramirez: 129 votes, 33.2%

Omar Vizquel: 76 votes, 19.5%

Andy Pettitte: 66 votes, 17%

Bobby Abreu: 60 votes, 15.4%

Jimmy Rollins: 50 votes, 12.9%

Mark Buehrle: 42 votes, 10.8%

Francisco Rodriguez: 42 votes, 10.8%

Torii Hunter: 27 votes, 6.9 percent

 

(Players receiving less than 5% will drop off future ballots)

 

Bronson Arroyo: 1 vote, 0.3%

R.A. Dickey: 1 vote, 0.3%

John Lackey: 1 vote, 0.3%

Mike Napoli: 1 vote, 0.3%

Huston Street: 1 vote, 0.3%

Matt Cain: 0 votes, 0%

Jacoby Ellsbury: 0 votes, 0%

Andre Ethier: 0 votes, 0%

J.J. Hardy: 0 votes, 0%

Jhonny Peralta: 0 votes, 0%

Jered Weaver: 0 votes, 0%

Jayson Werth: 0 votes, 0%

 

Whomever voted for Dickey, Arroyo, Street, Napoli and Lackey should have their voting priviledges revoked immediately. They're obviously f***ing morons.

[Stangstag]

Maybe the guy is a true bum and did throw it at the baby. Certainly possible but more likely the baby wasn’t the intended target. If the baby wasnt, chalk it up to doing the judge, jury, executioner thing before you have the whole story

 

Does it matter who the target was?

 

God you’re such a moron

[Spanky99]

So happy Spanky declined my many offers to overpay for Clev in the DDL

 

I don't think Story for Abel and Clev was an overpay, I dodged a bullet there. He also plays for the Bosox, f*** that guy. You made out well at Zeros expense.

[BTS]

I don't think Story for Abel and Clev was an overpay, I dodged a bullet there. He also plays for the Bosox, f*** that guy.

 

Oh it was definitely an overpay

[Jonn]

I know he was dog s*** last year but I would take a flyer on Matt Barnes if he comes for nothing. He’s put up elite strikeout numbers in the past. Still only 32.

[jaysblue]

I know he was dog s*** last year but I would take a flyer on Matt Barnes if he comes for nothing. He’s put up elite strikeout numbers in the past. Still only 32.

 

He's a FA now?

[Spanky99]

He's a FA now?

 

Designated today by the Bosox.

[AMS528]

Helton, Wagner and Jones all look like they've got a great shot to get in over the next couple of years. Helton and Wagner for sure I think.

 

Sheffield is going to need a big jump in his last year. Beltran should make it with that start.

 

Interesting that A-Rod barely gained at all.

 

Out of the rest, I feel like Buehrle could be someone who just keeps sticking around gaining a bit at a time cause everyone liked him.

[Laika]

I know he was dog s*** last year but I would take a flyer on Matt Barnes if he comes for nothing. He’s put up elite strikeout numbers in the past. Still only 32.

 

No point. Projects as a sideways move with Richards. Not an upgrade on anyone

[jaysblue]

Yeah don't think he's better than anyone else in the Jays pen at this point. If Jays lacked arms, for sure would take a flier on him.

[G-Snarls]

DFA still means they have 7 days to trade him or have him clear waivers before he's actually a free agent

[Brownie19]

Why doesn't Pettitte get more votes? 68 WAR, lot of playoff success and championships, Yankee (not that this should matter, but typically does). This is just b/c of his admission to PED use?

 

I'm also still baffled that Kevin Brown never got voted in.

[John_Havok]

Why doesn't Pettitte get more votes? 68 WAR, lot of playoff success and championships, Yankee (not that this should matter, but typically does). This is just b/c of his admission to PED use?

 

I'm also still baffled that Kevin Brown never got voted in.

 

Pettitte is in the same classification as Buerhle for me. Workhorses that never sucked, and the only thing they truly did exceptionally was never really get blown out. Solid pitchers that all rotations need, but they aren’t the ace. Aces make the hall. Not hall worthy imo.

 

Brown was better than both of them by far.

[jaysblue]

I think Brown and a case could be made for Pettitte to make the HOF. Buerhle could be on the edge.

[jaysblue]

Oakland's Big Three: Hudson, Zito, Mulder - will be tough for one of them to make the Hall. Crazy thought back in 2002!