The Blue Jays sign Chris Bassitt

[wamco]

Apologizing and unbanning is only reasonable next step

[wilko]

This is a lightly moderated board for several reasons.

 

As Laika said, it's a handful of volunteers who do it and they aren't always online.

 

Also, it isn't like Reddit where you have dozens of people who will downvote and report stuff, the mods are mostly on their own and they participate in the discussions themselves. If they come across something while they are participating they might take action but they aren't going back and scouring threads for potential offensive posts.

 

Finally, this board/community has been around forever and the mods have a good pulse on how heavy they should moderate and the people here seem to prefer that it operates like the internet of 8-10 years ago where people simply ignored what they didn't like rather than the mods having to take action.

 

So all told, as far as how heavily this place is moderated I'd say that it isn't 4chan around here, but it also isn't Reddit. It's probably somewhere around what Twitter is like now.

 

Reported.

[Terminator]

All that's left for me to say is that I don't hold grudges and I don't have anything against anyone here. It was nice to find this place in 2013 and despite all the s*** that's happened over the years, I'm glad I found it. If anyone wants to reach me, they can dm me on reddit (twistedlogicx); even though I'm not nearly as active there as I once was, I'll eventually respond. I do enjoy covering the draft and in all the years since I joined this site, even when I wasn't an active contributor, I tried to do at least that much. Now that I've grown a habit of it, I'll probably find a new way to do that, so if anyone is interested in finding wherever that is, just message me next year when that time comes.

 

I don't know if Boxcar still posts here but the last thing I want to say is despite my conversations with Boxy early on in this site being probably the most contentious conversations I ever had here (and the main reason for me leaving once), he apologized to me years ago via DM and I've always appreciated the maturity it took do that and I wanted other people to know he did that.

 

Hope I run into some of you folks elsewhere on the internet. Cheers.

 

He'll 100% be back. I guarantee it.

[FantasyNewb]

Just want to post this as a relative newcomer. This site has so much potential, but there IS a vibe that if you're not an original, you're on shaky ground. Constantly.

 

From the limited amount of time I've been on here, I respected TL's opinions and loved most of his posts. There may be way more to it than I realize, but from what I remember of the situation, people turned on him for bragging about his dynasty team. That seemed to be the major issue. He got bullied for bragging about it as often as he did. People were saying they have him on mute and there was a thread he wasn't even aware of (from what I remember), sort of tearing him down over it.

 

As an outside observer, that's not enough to turn on someone. He was happy about a friggin fantasy team and wanted to brag about it. Lot's of people would. You would WANT that in someone on a baseball forum.

 

I see WAY more egregious banter from the OGs that's played off as nothing. But if a new poster did it, they would be banned. I really think a calibration is needed to make more people feel welcomed, and not tear them down over smaller issues. This site has huge potential but it can't be limited to a select few who feel comfortable here. Hell, I'm pretty sure I'll be banned over this, even though I didn't attack anyone in particular. Just gave an outside perspective of it.

 

TL should never have been banned, IMO. Just my take on it.

[Carlos Danger]

Given that I was permanently banned and have no way of speaking on the absolute weird s*** being said about me in this thread, I made this account to respond. After I have, I'll gladly get out of everyone's hair because unlike several relentless dupe accounts here, I have no interest in forcing myself into a community where I am unwelcome.

 

 

 

You mean when I didn't make a single comment about it and just sent a small group of people on Fantrax a message before leaving? Very public indeed.

 

 

 

For sure. You know, apart from not having any issues in any other community that I'm a part of.

 

 

 

My biggest fail was defending a good trade?

 

 

 

Do I now? I must have a pretty impressive ability to multi-task then, considering the last three baseball transaction periods, I've been running the r/baseball megathreads.

 

 

 

Interesting hypothesis given that I haven't posted anything from reddit since returning to this forum in November. I made a payroll chart for a Discord community I'm a part of and posted it to this forum before I posted it to reddit. The updated version I shared a few days ago was only posted here.

 

Dude, I am not upset or have any ill will over a rejected trade. I have had hundreds rejected and will have a hundred more from everyone in my leagues.

 

I had a problem with you on the Fantasy side only because the leagues are better with active owners. You took the team from a guy who was an absentee manager.

 

You then at some later date said something along the lines of you needed to get to know players and then didn’t have time to do anything with the Team. There was nothing with anyone for months, during the season also.

 

At the same time you were saying you are too busy or don’t have time for BORED, you were posting very frequently in threads, on Reddit (according to you) then finally getting very involved in off board leagues and your whole Fantasy advice thing with the Sheriff.

 

So my only opinion was, great, we just replace an absentee owner with another absentee owner, who says he doesn’t have time for our league, but sure has time for everything else.

 

Leagues suck when you have teams with zero participation. I would think the same of anyone who ghosts a team but doesn’t say hey guys, I am not interested anymore or life events have changed and I am too busy please find a new owner.

 

My only issue with you was ghosting the league. I now think you are being way too dramatic about a harmless comment and made a mountain out of a mole hill. If you are going to be so sensitive and dramatic about every little micro aggression going fwd, the board is probably better off without you.

 

However, I am not a ban supporter in general. I don’t think you did anything for a perma ban. Do what you wish..

[BTS]

Just want to post this as a relative newcomer. This site has so much potential, but there IS a vibe that if you're not an original, you're on shaky ground. Constantly.

 

From the limited amount of time I've been on here, I respected TL's opinions and loved most of his posts. There may be way more to it than I realize, but from what I remember of the situation, people turned on him for bragging about his dynasty team. That seemed to be the major issue. He got bullied for bragging about it as often as he did. People were saying they have him on mute and there was a thread he wasn't even aware of (from what I remember), sort of tearing him down over it.

 

As an outside observer, that's not enough to turn on someone. He was happy about a friggin fantasy team and wanted to brag about it. Lot's of people would. You would WANT that in someone on a baseball forum.

 

I see WAY more egregious banter from the OGs that's played off as nothing. But if a new poster did it, they would be banned. I really think a calibration is needed to make more people feel welcomed, and not tear them down over smaller issues. This site has huge potential but it can't be limited to a select few who feel comfortable here. Hell, I'm pretty sure I'll be banned over this, even though I didn't attack anyone in particular. Just gave an outside perspective of it.

 

TL should never have been banned, IMO. Just my take on it.

 

I'm pretty sure your history on the forum reads something like:

- joined

- were almost immediately invited to join a forum dynasty league

- receive honest answers every time you post a question in the fantasy thread

- have never been banned

 

I'm not sure how you feel the mods can make your stay here more pleasant. Spanky is out of the reacharound business.

[jays4life19]

Blueberry Bacon Pancakes.

 

Now this is a complete breakfast. Protien, carbs and fat. Well done Spanky.

[Laika]

I see WAY more egregious banter from the OGs that's played off as nothing. But if a new poster did it, they would be banned.

 

But doesn't this make sense?

 

If I walk up to my best friend on the street and call him a f***ing douche, he'd laugh and say what's up.

 

If I walk up to someone I don't know at all and say the same thing I'll get punched.

 

The social context is kind of everything when it comes to banter.

 

 

Not everything that looks like a personal attack to outsiders is considered an actual personal attack by the receiving party.

[FantasyNewb]

I'm pretty sure your history on the forum reads something like:

- joined

- were almost immediately invited to join a forum dynasty league

- receive honest answers every time you post a question in the fantasy thread

- have never been banned

 

I'm not sure how you feel the mods can make your stay here more pleasant. Spanky is out of the reacharound business.

 

I'm not saying that I haven't had a pleasant time here. But I've seen other newcomers push the boundaries (to the level of original posters) and have been banned pretty quick over it.

 

Not attacking anyone in particular. And not saying a lot of people don't have a great time. But I personally feel TL got the short end of the stick over this. I saw him getting bullied over posting his dynasty team lineup; despite all the positive posts he made. It didn't sit well with me at the time.

 

Again, not a personal attack on anyone. I've had a great experience myself here.

[Carlos Danger]

I've had a great experience myself here.

 

Don’t forget to tip your waitstaff and leave a 5 Star review on Yelp

[FantasyNewb]

Don’t forget to tip your waitstaff and leave a 5 Star review on Yelp

 

Done and done!

[wamco]

Just want to post this as a relative newcomer. This site has so much potential, but there IS a vibe that if you're not an original, you're on shaky ground. Constantly.

 

From the limited amount of time I've been on here, I respected TL's opinions and loved most of his posts. There may be way more to it than I realize, but from what I remember of the situation, people turned on him for bragging about his dynasty team. That seemed to be the major issue. He got bullied for bragging about it as often as he did. People were saying they have him on mute and there was a thread he wasn't even aware of (from what I remember), sort of tearing him down over it.

 

As an outside observer, that's not enough to turn on someone. He was happy about a friggin fantasy team and wanted to brag about it. Lot's of people would. You would WANT that in someone on a baseball forum.

 

I see WAY more egregious banter from the OGs that's played off as nothing. But if a new poster did it, they would be banned. I really think a calibration is needed to make more people feel welcomed, and not tear them down over smaller issues. This site has huge potential but it can't be limited to a select few who feel comfortable here. Hell, I'm pretty sure I'll be banned over this, even though I didn't attack anyone in particular. Just gave an outside perspective of it.

 

TL should never have been banned, IMO. Just my take on it.

 

 

Oh just get the hell out of here then you f***ing Karen! We are the best messageboard with the coolest, smartest posters on the internet. I’m trying to fit in.

[Stangstag]

Can someone please change Terminator's title from 'MVP' to 'BJMB Sherriff'

 

No, dude doesn’t need his head inflated any larger

[max silver]

But doesn't this make sense?

 

If I walk up to my best friend on the street and call him a f***ing douche, he'd laugh and say what's up.

 

If I walk up to someone I don't know at all and say the same thing I'll get punched.

 

The social context is kind of everything when it comes to banter.

 

 

Not everything that looks like a personal attack to outsiders is considered an actual personal attack by the receiving party.

 

This is all well and good when both sides of the banter are willing participants, but there are times on here when this really doesn't appear to be the case. There is one poster who in particular who appears to receive far more latitude than the rest of the board members when it comes to making ugly personal attacks, and the board member who is on the receiving end of these has made it clear that he doesn't always appreciate these types of comments. I can see how this would be off putting to potential members when they consider joining the board.

[wamco]

Wooooaaa so are you are saying there are times the site is a cesspool with inconsistent moderation ? Tread lightly newbee! You too can go from never banned to perma banned.

[Stangstag]

Anyone heard from King lately??

[FantasyNewb]

Wooooaaa so are you are saying there are times the site is a cesspool with inconsistent moderation ? Tread lightly newbee! You too can go from never banned to perma banned.

 

Is this for me? For just giving a small, unimportant opinion on something?

[Deadpool]

He'll 100% be back. I guarantee it.

 

I, for one, hope that he is. He is an excellent contributor to the board.

[wamco]

It was a joke mocking others on site.

[Spanky99]

Now this is a complete breakfast. Protien, carbs and fat. Well done Spanky.

 

I aim to please, bruh!!!

[FantasyNewb]

It was a joke mocking others on site.

 

Haha. I thought so. That's why I gave a half-assed sarcastic response.

[wamco]

It’s Kind of embarrassing how these observations of the board needs to be pointed out and explained. And the tide seems to be turning on the TL ban. Not a good look mods, find a scapegoat. I nominate baldilocks troglodyte spankypee

[Deadpool]

Just want to post this as a relative newcomer. This site has so much potential, but there IS a vibe that if you're not an original, you're on shaky ground. Constantly.

 

From the limited amount of time I've been on here, I respected TL's opinions and loved most of his posts. There may be way more to it than I realize, but from what I remember of the situation, people turned on him for bragging about his dynasty team. That seemed to be the major issue. He got bullied for bragging about it as often as he did. People were saying they have him on mute and there was a thread he wasn't even aware of (from what I remember), sort of tearing him down over it.

 

As an outside observer, that's not enough to turn on someone. He was happy about a friggin fantasy team and wanted to brag about it. Lot's of people would. You would WANT that in someone on a baseball forum.

 

I see WAY more egregious banter from the OGs that's played off as nothing. But if a new poster did it, they would be banned. I really think a calibration is needed to make more people feel welcomed, and not tear them down over smaller issues. This site has huge potential but it can't be limited to a select few who feel comfortable here. Hell, I'm pretty sure I'll be banned over this, even though I didn't attack anyone in particular. Just gave an outside perspective of it.

 

TL should never have been banned, IMO. Just my take on it.

 

So, most of the "new" accounts that get banned quickly are actually former users who are evading bans. Once in a while we get a new poster who comes in and swings his dick around because he's used to the Sportsnet.ca comment section where his belief that batting average and PRODUCHUN are things that matter is taken seriously.

 

It's also important to note that we do not consider this forum to be "family friendly", and while that doesn't apply to actual malice (Anyone using a hard R will absolutely be banned, for example, even an OG), it does mean that we're not expecting users to moderate their language. We're not a church or a pre-school, and that's uncomfortable for some people.

 

While I cannot speak for any of the other mods, this is absolutely not the sort of post that is remotely problematic to me, and I wouldn't even consider banning you over it. Hell, if I was going to ban you for anything it would be for dragging fantasy baseball talk out of the "off topic" forum!

[wamco]

Call me TL! Breaking news. Kay cut…go to Reddit to learn more!

[Terminator]

I, for one, hope that he is. He is an excellent contributor to the board.

 

I don't mind him. I like his spreadsheet and his GDTs but he's on the lower end of the baseball IQ spectrum here. That's not necessarily a knock on him though because I legit think if you could ignore whatever individual personal baggage some might have, there are plenty of people on here who could be capable MLB GMs if they had a baseball ops team backing them. He's not one of them but acts like he's smarter than everyone else and speaks in absolutes.

 

It's not "Greg Bird would be an interesting 26th man" it's "wow huge mistake by the FO to cut Greg Bird." Dude hasn't been productive in 6 years and goes on to hit .216 in Scranton.

 

It's not, "I don't like trading Nick Frasso for Mitch White" it's "Nick Frasso is a f***ing superstar and I am LIVID with Atkins for that trade." He's a 24 year old A-Ball pitcher who proceeded to struggle in AA after the trade.

 

But if you push back with similar rhetoric like "what are you talking about? Greg Bird sucks" he gets way too offended and has a meltdown similar to the one he's having now.

[FantasyNewb]

So, most of the "new" accounts that get banned quickly are actually former users who are evading bans. Once in a while we get a new poster who comes in and swings his dick around because he's used to the Sportsnet.ca comment section where his belief that batting average and PRODUCHUN are things that matter is taken seriously.

 

It's also important to note that we do not consider this forum to be "family friendly", and while that doesn't apply to actual malice (Anyone using a hard R will absolutely be banned, for example, even an OG), it does mean that we're not expecting users to moderate their language. We're not a church or a pre-school, and that's uncomfortable for some people.

 

While I cannot speak for any of the other mods, this is absolutely not the sort of post that is remotely problematic to me, and I wouldn't even consider banning you over it. Hell, if I was going to ban you for anything it would be for dragging fantasy baseball talk out of the "off topic" forum!

 

Haha. Yeah, my apologies on that. I post most frequently when my health takes a turn for the worse and I'm trying to distract myself. And fantasy baseball is one of my best distractions.

[Terminator]

Wamco banned. Another good decision. His disgusting and bizarre sexually charged comments/analogies will not be missed.

[Terminator]

Haha. Yeah, my apologies on that. I post most frequently when my health takes a turn for the worse and I'm trying to distract myself. And fantasy baseball is one of my best distractions.

 

Your fantasy questions are actually good though. TL's were "Should I trade Lourdes Gurriel Jr. for Mike Trout? 14 team 5x5 dynasty" about 2 or 3 times a day and then he'd do the trade and then post his entire team.

 

No one cares about anyone else's fantasy team though. It's boring as hell. Some of us are barely entertained enough to look at our own. But what we do like is being helpful when possible and then evaluating individual players and trades, particularly if they are close calls. "Gurriel for Trout" doesn't provide for that nor does showing off your roster.

[FantasyNewb]

Your fantasy questions are actually good though. TL's were "Should I trade Lourdes Gurriel Jr. for Mike Trout? 14 team 5x5 dynasty" about 2 or 3 times a day and then he'd do the trade and then post his entire team.

 

No one cares about anyone else's fantasy team though. It's boring as hell. Some of us are barely entertained enough to look at our own. But what we do like is being helpful when possible and then evaluating individual players and trades, particularly if they are close calls. "Gurriel for Trout" doesn't provide for that nor does showing off your roster.

 

Fair enough. I get it would be frustrating. I'd be annoyed with those posts myself. And I probably posted similar messages about my team (not to that level), just because I was proud of the team I built. I was happy about it, not trying to showboat. But from what I remember (and not calling out anyone in particular), but he was bullied pretty hard over it. Although maybe I misremember it.

 

And again, not calling out anyone in any way. But I personally think TL provided way more valuable info and didn't do enough to warrant a ban. But that's just me.

[Deadpool]

Your fantasy questions are actually good though. TL's were "Should I trade Lourdes Gurriel Jr. for Mike Trout? 14 team 5x5 dynasty" about 2 or 3 times a day and then he'd do the trade and then post his entire team.

 

No one cares about anyone else's fantasy team though. It's boring as hell. Some of us are barely entertained enough to look at our own. But what we do like is being helpful when possible and then evaluating individual players and trades, particularly if they are close calls. "Gurriel for Trout" doesn't provide for that nor does showing off your roster.

 

I have no problem if something like this is in "off topic" because the only time I go to the "off topic" section is when I click on the wrong thing...