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I just don’t get what the upside is EVER swinging 3-0 with a guy who is missing, an umpire who is calling a true tight plate and one on nobody out.

 

Like, what is the f***ing upside? It’s such a f***ing dumb decision to ever swing in that spot. That’s terrible management.

 

Yea, if there is a guy on third and we need a run to take a lead late. Yea, swing and try to lift one. Otherwise, don’t f***ing swing.

 

Yeah, and at least with the Jays (definitely under Chuckles) it was "sure guys, swing whenever you want!" I really hate it.

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Yeah, and at least with the Jays (definitely under Chuckles) it was "sure guys, swing whenever you want!" I really hate it.

 

you can say that again!

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Yeah, and at least with the Jays (definitely under Chuckles) it was "sure guys, swing whenever you want!" I really hate it.

 

I feel like that’s something you would very rarely see any Ray do.

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I just don’t get what the upside is EVER swinging 3-0 with a guy who is missing, an umpire who is calling a true tight plate and one on nobody out. Like, what is the f***ing upside? It’s such a f***ing dumb decision to ever swing in that spot. That’s terrible management.

Yea, if there is a guy on third and we need a run to take a lead late. Yea, swing and try to lift one. Otherwise, don’t f***ing swing.

 

Part of the reason is that these guys have been playing competitive ball their whole lives. They "believe" they can get a hit. When you're standing in that box it's you against the pitcher and sometimes you have to get your cuts. It doesn't make sense in strictly logical terms but it is part of the player mentality.

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Tabby says Manoah is a "big guy" and has that going for him. Big guy correlation to not getting health issues? Like Pearson?
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Part of the reason is that these guys have been playing competitive ball their whole lives. They "believe" they can get a hit. When you're standing in that box it's you against the pitcher and sometimes you have to get your cuts. It doesn't make sense in strictly logical terms but it is part of the player mentality.

 

Agreed, at 3-0 you better get your key holed pitch, or take.

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Part of the reason is that these guys have been playing competitive ball their whole lives. They "believe" they can get a hit. When you're standing in that box it's you against the pitcher and sometimes you have to get your cuts. It doesn't make sense in strictly logical terms but it is part of the player mentality.

 

Then the manager needs to stop giving them the green light 3-0 by default.

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I just don’t get what the upside is EVER swinging 3-0 with a guy who is missing, an umpire who is calling a true tight plate and one on nobody out.

 

Like, what is the f***ing upside? It’s such a f***ing dumb decision to ever swing in that spot. That’s terrible management.

 

Yea, if there is a guy on third and we need a run to take a lead late. Yea, swing and try to lift one. Otherwise, don’t f***ing swing.

 

100%. Only certain guys green light and not always. If they get it they have to zone it up or take it.

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Tabby says Manoah is a "big guy" and has that going for him. Big guy correlation to not getting health issues? Like Pearson?

 

Think he means that if that was Storman on the mound getting hit by the ball, he'd be out for the season. Height Measures Heart #HMH

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Manoah struggles to locate and immediately the Minnesota hitters start just taking everything. The fact that we couldn’t do that is so f***ing dumb. Terrible management.
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Then the manager needs to stop giving them the green light 3-0 by default.

 

Not if it's a slugger like Teo. It is part of sports psychology.

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Not if it's a slugger like Teo. It is part of sports psychology.

 

How come teams like the rays can get guys to almost always play to the odds and we have to let guys do sub optimal things to inspire them? What’s up with that?

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Not if it's a slugger like Teo. It is part of sports psychology.

 

Teo would just ignore the manager? Pretty sure that's a quick way to get yourself moved down in the lineup...

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How come teams like the rays can get guys to almost always play to the odds and we have to let guys do sub optimal things to inspire them? What’s up with that?

 

Its the approach/philosophy of the team and management. Be aggressive af.

 

Which, again, is different from what the Rays do.

You should just become a Rays fan to avoid the misery of why Jays are not like Rays.

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Its the approach/philosophy of the team and management.

Which, again, is different from what the Rays do. You should just become a Rays fan to avoid the misery of why Jays are not like Rays.

 

I’m so nuts… I want the jays to always try to win instead of doing dumb s*** to placate players’ egos. What an outrageous request!

 

Be happy with stupid s*** or become a rays fan is quite the choice.

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Teo would just ignore the manager? Pretty sure that's a quick way to get yourself moved down in the lineup...

 

No I mean the manager wouldn't tell a slugger like Teo or Vladdy to take.

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