GDT: Jays @ Brewers Game 3 of 3

[Stangstag]

Ffs, want to buy consistent starting pitching? Good luck.

 

Yeah its crazy, Berrios is arguably one of the most consistent pitchers in baseball over the past 4 seasons. And he’s young, not like he’s past his prime.

[John_Havok]

Crap, I actually agree with Tabler that Berrios needs to wear this one rather than going to the pen.

 

It’s a sad f***in day when I agree with Tabler.

[Terminator]

 

Dear god...there's not even any underlying stats to pull hope from...

[Daniel Labude]

Yeah its crazy, Berrios is arguably one of the most consistent pitchers in baseball over the past 4 seasons. And he’s young, not like he’s past his prime.

 

You can be consistent facing KC, DET, CHW, CLE

[Dagagad]

Who gets cut first...Ryu, Kikuchi, Berrios, the entire pen, Montoyo, Walker

 

If we miss the playoffs, the coaches.

 

It should be the front office.

[Terminator]

Tellez worth more in 2 PAs than Richards has been worth all of '22

 

And Francis has completely s*** the bed in AAA. Ross got worked over on that one.

[BigCecil]

Crap, I actually agree with Tabler that Berrios needs to wear this one rather than going to the pen.

 

It’s a sad f***in day when I agree with Tabler.

 

Agree. Well the good news for the pen is Berrios is at the same pitch count through 2 than Kooch is usually at after 1.

[Stangstag]

You can be consistent facing KC, DET, CHW, CLE

 

Ok but he was still great against teams like the Yankees and Sox last year with us

[John_Havok]

Who gets cut first...Ryu, Kikuchi, Berrios, the entire pen, Montoyo, Walker

 

Ryu’s injury has effectively resulted in him being cut. Then I think it would be Walker, then Montoyo. Nobody gonna cut a guy in the first year of a 7 year deal, and Kikuchi would probably just relegated to the pen until he becomes tradeable

[Stangstag]

If we miss the playoffs, the coaches.

 

It should be the front office.

 

Agree, if the playoffs are missed there need to be several firings

[John_Havok]

 

Dear god...there's not even any underlying stats to pull hope from...

 

Chase rate and walk rate. Pretty much means his fastball isn’t being located well enough to make the offspeed stuff in the zone effective

[DigitalRock]

Berries is killing us

[jaysguy44]

Move Bo down in the order damnit. s*** OBP

[JFD]

And Bichette is still dogshit. Everything coming apart at the seems at once

[DigitalRock]

That was a ball

[Daniel Labude]

You can also be consistent with an umpire up your ass lol

[connorp]

 

Dear god...there's not even any underlying stats to pull hope from...

 

That is brutal

[connorp]

Where JF at? Does he have any new accounts? His moment to shine

[AttackOfTheJays]

Who gets cut first...Ryu, Kikuchi, Berrios, the entire pen, Montoyo, Walker

 

Probably Walker before anyone else. You can't fire the pitchers especially on those contracts. Every start I hear about how they've "tweaked" something and they come out even worse.

[Stangstag]

Probably Walker before anyone else. You can't fire the pitchers especially on those contracts. Every start I hear about how they've "tweaked" something and they come out even worse.

 

Lol that’s every team though. Didn’t we hear about how Giolito “tweaked” his delivery before his start against the jays last week?

[connorp]

Walker certainly not waking on water anymore. Probably wouldn’t have made it past the DWI if it was now

[BigCecil]

Probably Walker before anyone else. You can't fire the pitchers especially on those contracts. Every start I hear about how they've "tweaked" something and they come out even worse.

 

no chance. Robbie Ray made Walker immortal. We don't talk about the less successful outcomes.

[Stangstag]

Walker certainly not waking on water anymore. Probably wouldn’t have made it past the DWI if it was now

 

Maybe it’ll actually help if he’s fired.

 

Didn’t the Yankees fire their pitching coach in the offseason? Their rotation immediately became one of the best in baseball overnight. Pen was solid last year and still is.

[Dagagad]

What pisses me off is this kills our window. These incompetent f***s are going to have to trade more assets for more pitching when we have already spent enough assets on that. We should be good. They aren’t good at it, and instead of us competing for 5/6/7/8 years it’s going to be like 3 more because they need to keep dumping assets into pitching because we f***ing suck at it.

 

I’m going for a walk.

[connorp]

What pisses me off is this kills our window. These incompetent f***s are going to have to trade more assets for more pitching when we have already spent enough assets on that. We should be good. They aren’t good at it, and instead of us competing for 5/6/7/8 years it’s going to be like 3 more because they need to keep dumping assets into pitching because we f***ing suck at it.

 

I’m going for a walk.

 

Well, sticking your head in the sand isn’t going to make it any better. Have to get it somehow

[JFD]

Rogers should maybe stop hiring fake smart guys like Atkins and Dubas

[dineke]

Front office been spotty as f*** when throwing money at pitchers. At least berrios was good before the extension but so much money has been wasted all literal shitcans like Jaime Garcia, Rourke and kooch.

[Dagagad]

Well, sticking your head in the sand isn’t going to make it any better. Have to get it somehow

 

I’d rather tell them not to sell any high value asset, clear house in the winter and hire guys from the rays or the astros.

 

In the medium and long run, we’ll be better off.

 

Or just fire everyone involved with pitching dev, and hire guys from the rays or astros.

 

And no, waiting a long ass time for results. Other teams have got quick results in pitching dev. Other teams can cobble together bullpens and rotations and get results. We suck at this period.

[connorp]

Wonder what Chuck will say about Berrios. We’ll see

[Stangstag]

Front office been spotty as f*** when throwing money at pitchers. At least berrios was good before the extension but so much money has been wasted all literal shitcans like Jaime Garcia, Rourke and kooch.

 

Yimi Garcia? He’s been fine and his salary is peanuts