General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)

[Ron tokama]

Why would Toronto have to add anything to Jansen, to get O'Neill? They are pretty close in value.

 

Burleson is not worth Jansen. He's interesting but seems like a platoon guy, and possibly not a very good defensive OF.

 

You a Cards fan?

 

O’Neill is a year removed from almost a 6 WAR season. Even in a down year he wasn’t far from Jansens career year. Burleson is a top 100 prospect getting him for a player who arguably fits best as a back up catcher is a great get. I’m a blue jays fan but the delusional value that some of you put on Jansen drives me nuts. Nootbaar in essentially his rookie season was better than any year in Jansens career. Also the team control difference and age. No chance Jansen is netting him.

[Jonn]

Tyler O’Neal was a flash in a pan. He strikes out a ton, has no plate discipline, and abuses TRT. He will never come within half of his career season in WAR again. We have moved beyond Randal Grichuk 2.0.

[Laika]

O’Neill is a year removed from almost a 6 WAR season. Even in a down year he wasn’t far from Jansens career year. Burleson is a top 100 prospect getting him for a player who arguably fits best as a back up catcher is a great get. I’m a blue jays fan but the delusional value that some of you put on Jansen drives me nuts. Nootbaar in essentially his rookie season was better than any year in Jansens career. Also the team control difference and age. No chance Jansen is netting him.

 

I'm not saying Jansen alone should necessarily get Nootbaar but otherwise fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

 

you are not allowed to slander Danny Jansen like this

 

Jansen played 72 games and was worth twice the WAR of O'Neill last year, and they are a wash by projections

 

Alec Burleson is f***ing fat 1B prospect

[Terminator]

We all know how I feel about Danny Jansen but even I wouldn't want Alec Burleson for him. I think Jansen plus something for Nootbar works. I think Jansen for Oneill is also pretty fair.

[Krylian]

[Eat My Shatkins]

Projections seem to like Heaney. Fangraphs says 2 years $10 million per.

 

K rate sure jumped last year too.

[L54]

That’s really their projection for him? Yikes. Every team in baseball would pay him that, even the Pirates

[Captain_Obvious]

We all know how I feel about Danny Jansen but even I wouldn't want Alec Burleson for him. I think Jansen plus something for Nootbar works. I think Jansen for Oneill is also pretty fair.

 

I don't mind Jansen+ for Nootbaar as long as the + is not significant. Stay away from O'Neill who is just awful.

[THANOS]

[RobinThicc]

Feel like Tieddeman and Martinez have drastically different trade value

[Ehjays]

I would not trade Tiedemann

[Laika]

 

Yeah they can have Martinez haha

 

Nice deal

[Stangstag]

Feel like Tieddeman and Martinez have drastically different trade value

 

Yeah lol. Maybe not to other teams though?? Who tf knows. I’d be fine trading Martinez for Reynolds but iffy about Tiedeman

[Terminator]

I'd probably trade Tiedemann for him. I'm tired of having to dip in to FA every year for starters so I'd hate to do it and it would scare me shitless but he's a 20 year old pitcher and Reynolds projects for 4 WAR next year. 3 years of a guy like Reynolds is pretty damn valuable.

 

I also have no idea what to make of Reynolds' defense. According to Statcast, he was average in '19 and '20, elite in '21 and horrible in '22. If his defense checks out and he's a guy we can play in center for the next three years I'd throw in Martinez on top of Tiedemann for him.

[Daniel Labude]

 

I think he forgot about Moreno lol. Tiedemann isn't going anywhere unless we get a superstar (Ohtani)

[Carlos Danger]

I would not trade Tiedemann

 

Would you have traded Pearson? He was a top 5 prospect and #1 pitching prospect at one point I believe.. Now look at where we are at with him.

 

TINSTAAP... Known quantity vs unknown...if Reynolds..

[The_DH]

Yeah they can have Martinez haha

 

Nice deal

 

Yep, I'd do that any day.

[Daniel Labude]

Would you have traded Pearson? He was a top 5 prospect and #1 pitching prospect at one point I believe.. Now look at where we are at with him.

 

TINSTAAP... Known quantity vs unknown...if Reynolds..

 

Would you have traded prospects for Bellinger after 2019....

[Jimcanuck]

for the jays to get reynolds i think a 3rd team that needs a C will be involved

[Captain_Obvious]

Would you have traded Pearson? He was a top 5 prospect and #1 pitching prospect at one point I believe.. Now look at where we are at with him.

 

TINSTAAP... Known quantity vs unknown...if Reynolds..

 

YEA! We should have traded Vladdy, Bo, Bichette, and Kirk when they were prospects. We would not have regretted it one bit!

[Daniel Labude]

for the jays to get reynolds i think a 3rd team that needs a C will be involved

 

Arizona

[Laika]

just for shits and giggles

 

[Jimcanuck]

Arizona

 

I think the Jays would rather have one of the D'backs CF then Reynolds, for years of control reasons

[BTS]

Heaney is a guy you sign for 1/9 or whatever coming off a down year, not a guy you sign for 3/45 after his successful 1-year contract ends.

[Carlos Danger]

YEA! We should have traded Vladdy, Bo, Bichette, and Kirk when they were prospects. We would not have regretted it one bit!

 

None of those guys are pitchers. Whole different ball game, no pun intended.

[Jonn]

Reynolds would be so sick. He might be the most underrated star in Baseball.

[Jonn]

Heaney is a guy you sign for 1/9 or whatever coming off a down year, not a guy you sign for 3/45 after his successful 1-year contract ends.

 

Agreed I like Heaney. I don’t know if we should be in a bidding war for him.

[connorp]

Reynolds would be so sick. He might be the most underrated star in Baseball.

 

Yeah, shame they don’t really have use for Moreno. Will be tough getting it done another way

[Jonn]

I think the Jays would rather have one of the D'backs CF then Reynolds, for years of control reasons

 

Reynolds isn’t a free agent until 2026. And is already very very good.

[The_DH]

Yeah, shame they don’t really have use for Moreno. Will be tough getting it done another way

 

Off-season is the time for 3 way trades.