General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)

[jaysblue]

It's not reliance on either one of them. But it's not wishful thinking to expect one of them to be good for most of the year. And if you get lucky they both stay healthy and shove. The Jays got unlucky, because they both got hurt.

 

But this is kind of what the good teams do. They would buy guys like Pearson and Merryweather because their stuff is off the charts. You just get them in the fold.

 

Everyone wants to build a pen like TB does. These are the guys they buy, sometimes. Cast offs with "injury risk" labels are one of their plays. TB always has a lot of pitching injuries too. That's not a coincidence.

 

Yes, but you can't be riding everything on Pearson and Merryweather becoming elite relievers to save the pen. They definitely have the stuff and potential to be. Even still, the Blue Jays can still add or upgrade to the pen, even with Pearson and Merryweather in the fold still. What is stopping them? To be honest, I'm in favour of the Blue Jays handing out a BJ Ryan contract to an elite pen arm given this teams position and window.

 

Let's be realistic here - the Blue Jays best window for a World Series is 2023 and 2024. After that, the window starts to close. Once guys like Teo and Lourdes walk, Vladdy, Bo, Kirk, Manoah become very expensive, Springer gets older, if Gausman has some regression near the end of his contract, it's going to make chasing a World Series a lot tougher. And never count out the Yankees or Red Sox from spending money and putting together a super team. And you can never count out the Rays any given season as well.

[M.E.]

Bang this game and let the team get out of this shithole town with their dignity barely intact

[Spanky99]

No game tonight... PPD...

 

[Stangstag]

No game tonight... PPD...

 

 

Probably for the best TBH. Get to play em later when the Jays are playing better hopefully

[Jonn]

Even God didn’t want to see the Jays get swept out of town tonight.

[Omar]

No game tonight... PPD...

 

 

Some on here will have to save up the whining for another night.

[Olerud363]

Converstaion point:

 

Is the fact that Chapman is just 1 HR behind Vlad MORE indicative of Vlad having a down year or Chapman having a good year? And before you answer, I know it's probably a mix of both... but which side accounts for more?

 

Both are hitting almost exactly at their career averages. Both are having an average season for them selves. It would have been nice for 2022 Vlad to be a permanent thing and it still may be.

[Brownie19]

Converstaion point:

 

Is the fact that Chapman is just 1 HR behind Vlad MORE indicative of Vlad having a down year or Chapman having a good year? And before you answer, I know it's probably a mix of both... but which side accounts for more?

 

I definitely lean towards it being Vlad having a down year. I expected Chapman to inch closer to 2018/2019 as he gets further away from the hip injury. He's a beast.

[wilko]

No game tonight... PPD...

 

 

Thank god. Hopefully the Orioles cool down when they meet again.

[RustyTrombone]

Thank god. Hopefully the Orioles cool down when they meet again.

 

I mean its only 4 days from now sooooo and they play the s***** ass Red Sox....

[Grant77]

Thank god. Hopefully the Orioles cool down when they meet again.

 

The last 2 games were far more about us play9ng poorly than them playing well. We sweep them if we play like we are capable of.

[Stangstag]

The last 2 games were far more about us play9ng poorly than them playing well. We sweep them if we play like we are capable of.

 

Agreed. Less double plays. No stupid mistakes on the bases. Stop walking guys. Don’t hang a changeup middle-in to Odor. Stop trying to pull everything, especially in New Camden.

[wilko]

Agreed. Less double plays. No stupid mistakes on the bases. Stop walking guys. Don’t hang a changeup middle-in to Odor. Stop trying to pull everything, especially in New Camden.

 

[goldbug103]

Agreed. Less double plays. No stupid mistakes on the bases. Stop walking guys. Don’t hang a changeup middle-in to Odor. Stop trying to pull everything, especially in New Camden.

 

Is this message board down ?

[John_Havok]

Is this message board down ?

 

If you see this reply, you can probably guess the answer

[InsideThePark]

 

Good point. Do we play there again before September? Use a September callup spot on Moreno and use him instead of Jansen the when we play there in September. Jansen's going to be a black hole in Baltimore with that new LF wall.

[Dagagad]

I wish this tatis news had dropped pre trade deadline. I’d love us to try to lowball trade for him lol.

[MikeM3]

Orioles are about to blow right past us in a year or two.

[Laika]

Orioles are about to blow right past us in a year or two.

 

LOL it certainly seems like it

 

Out of nowhere they have an ostensibly relentless pitching pipeline, a couple of hitting stars in Rutschman, Mullins, Henderson, a few controllable supporting players, and most importantly some people in the front office with a keen eye for talent acquisition

[P2F]

LOL it certainly seems like it

 

Out of nowhere they have an ostensibly relentless pitching pipeline, a couple of hitting stars in Rutschman, Mullins, Henderson, a few controllable supporting players, and most importantly some people in the front office with a keen eye for talent acquisition

 

Yeah, Hall and Rodriguez are about as good as it gets for pitching prospects - excellent Stuff+.

[Laika]

Yeah, Hall and Rodriguez are about as good as it gets for pitching prospects - excellent Stuff+.

 

Hall could be an RP of his command wobbles too much but Grayson is an Ace if he stays healthy...

[P2F]

Hall could be an RP of his command wobbles too much but Grayson is an Ace if he stays healthy...

 

Hall just probably needs to dial it back, like, two MPH and watch the Aceness flow.

[Dagagad]

Hiring the astros guys was smart.

[MikeM3]

LOL it certainly seems like it

 

Out of nowhere they have an ostensibly relentless pitching pipeline, a couple of hitting stars in Rutschman, Mullins, Henderson, a few controllable supporting players, and most importantly some people in the front office with a keen eye for talent acquisition

 

I told you they are actual nerds. Atkins is a fake nerd.

[bones10]

Orioles are about to blow right past us in a year or two.

 

Uhhh have you looked at the standings, they might blow past us right now!

 

I'm not a doomer tho, but credit where credit is due they're killing it

[Dagagad]

I told you they are actual nerds. Atkins is a fake nerd.

 

Yea, getting cost certainty on Randal grichuk told me everything I needed to know on that.

[Laika]

Ross Atkins is mid af

 

Shapiro is good at most parts of his job but too washed on the baseball side to see it

 

I mean these guys interviewed Montoyo and hired him. They looked at his ugly face and still hired him. And then let him stick around for as long as he did. C'mon..........

[gruber92]

Don't worry guys, Ross has an off season plan.

[gruber92]

Like I said before, if missing the playoffs means Atkins is gone, I'm all for it. The sooner we shed ourselves of this f***ing clown, we can then move forward. I'll keep mentioning it until this goof is gone. There are way too many hardcore fans that deserve better than this.

[BigCecil]

How are our Jays morphing into the Leafs before our very eyes? A team built for the next year in perpetuity.