General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)

[Dagagad]

You never know. Miami definitely would move Cabrera as they have Meyer and Perez and others on the way. Jays would need more than just Cabrera for Moreno.

 

I'm surprised you didn't mention Roansy....

 

I didn’t mean I don’t know as in I wouldn’t trade for them. I just meant I don’t have a good feeling for their value.

 

I don’t think seattle or the rays would do those deals and I don’t think the jays would do a deal with the rays period.

 

The other ones are generally more viable. And yea, you could probably get something back on top.

[connorp]

You never know. Miami definitely would move Cabrera as they have Meyer and Perez and others on the way. Jays would need more than just Cabrera for Moreno.

 

I'm surprised you didn't mention Roansy....

 

Bro, how many top rated C have there been in the last 6 years and how many are worth more than a really good SP? You think that fact is lost on GMs?

[Jimcanuck]

Bro, how many top rated C have there been in the last 6 years and how many are worth more than a really good SP? You think that fact is lost on GMs?

 

What you talking about?

 

You saying Moreno is not enough for Edward Cabrera?

 

Elaborate. Adley gets you a choice of any of those SP, by the way.

[connorp]

Adley supposed to be generational. So was Matt Wieters but I’m still conceding first part. Moreno is not that

[Jimcanuck]

Adley supposed to be generational. So was Matt Wieters but I’m still conceding first part. Moreno is not that

 

Pitchers fail also. And get injured. Cabrera for example has a higher than the usual injury risk given his history.

 

I'm still not understanding your argument. Can you be more clear?

[connorp]

Pitchers fail also. And get injured. Cabrera for example has a higher than the usual injury risk given his history.

 

I'm still not understanding your argument. Can you be more clear?

 

I wouldn’t trade Cabrera and put my job on the line for a physically unimpressive C that lacks significant pedigree. As mentioned, they rarely amount to anything significant. That’s me but whatever. Idk

[Spanky99]

Kikuchi has been pretty damn good since simplifying his mechanics and ditching his cutter. I also have strong suspicions that Berrios made some sort of adjustment in between starts given how much more dominant his overall stuff was in his last outing. I think the shakiness should hopefully be behind him moving forward.

 

Is this Joe Sidall... lol.

[Dagagad]

That trade value site which I don’t know if anyone really trusts has baz as a fair trade for Moreno. That would be interesting.

 

It has carbrera as a massive overpay. Miami would have to add a lot more.

[Laika]

I would not trade Moreno for Edward Cabrera.

[Dagagad]

How about we convince Colorado that they will be contenders next year and we give them Jansen and take Marquez off their hands? Maybe they could add something good on as he isn’t having a great year. They might be dumb enough to do that.

[connorp]

I would not trade Moreno for Edward Cabrera.

 

But if you’re the Marlins GM, would you deal Cabrera for him? Cabrera comes up dealing and Moreno toils, not going to be good for your job security. Unheralded prospect that broke out huge in 2021 in sss, 2022 going a bit more pedestrian

[connorp]

That’s why these deals don’t happen. Not fantasy. Big risks in making deals

[Dagagad]

Didn’t Miami deal a hyped young pitcher not that long ago. Gallen?

[Spanky99]

I would not trade Moreno for Edward Cabrera.

 

Just him or...

[Laika]

But if you’re the Marlins GM, would you deal Cabrera for him? Cabrera comes up dealing and Moreno toils, not going to be good for your job security. Unheralded prospect that broke out huge in 2021 in sss, 2022 going a bit more pedestrian

 

In a heartbeat

[Laika]

Didn’t Miami deal a hyped young pitcher not that long ago. Gallen?

 

Gallen for Jazz

[Laika]

That’s why these deals don’t happen. Not fantasy. Big risks in making deals

 

I don't think that's really why. It's more of a "they like their own guys" thing.

 

When teams deal top prospects it's because they've soured on them. Like Austin Martin.

[Laika]

Adley supposed to be generational. So was Matt Wieters but I’m still conceding first part. Moreno is not that

 

Who said Adley is supposed to be generational? I don't think I've seen hyperbole like that

[Spanky99]

Who said Adley is supposed to be generational? I don't think I've seen hyperbole like that

 

It's C-poop, what did you expect?

[RobinThicc]

I think they'll kick the can on the catching situation as far as they possibly can.

 

They'll probably address the SP with other areas of the farm.

[connorp]

It's C-poop, what did you expect?

 

You’re a damp sock puppet in human form

[Dagagad]

The more I think about it Jansen is such a natural fit for Houston. His approach would work so well in that park. They also dont get much production from catcher.

[Slade]

[Slade]

Pearson is retroactive so it doesn't change his situation or mean he's injured again.

 

[Ehjays]

 

Remove Beasley or Vasquez, pretty easy

[204Jays]

What the heck is up with Pearson?

 

He had mono right? I've never heard of a 60 day recovery from mono.

[Stangstag]

What the heck is up with Pearson?

 

He had mono right? I've never heard of a 60 day recovery from mono.

 

He’s a wienie, thats what happened.

 

But for real, I believe he is pitching in AAA right now and could be nearing a return

[Omar]

What the heck is up with Pearson?

 

He had mono right? I've never heard of a 60 day recovery from mono.

 

Call him Mr. Glass!

[Ehjays]

 

Blue Jays Select Matt Gage

By Anthony Franco | June 6, 2022 at 6:39pm CDT

 

The Blue Jays announced they’ve selected reliever Matt Gage onto the MLB roster. Jeremy Beasley was optioned to Triple-A Buffalo to clear an active roster spot, while Nate Pearson was transferred from the 10-day to the 60-day injured list in a corresponding 40-man move.

 

Gage is headed to the majors for the first time after spending eight years in the minor leagues. Drafted by the Giants out of Siena College in the tenth round in 2014, Gage spent four seasons in the San Francisco farm system. He topped out at Triple-A before being released, then spent some time in the Mets’ system and in the Mexican League. The southpaw worked as a starter through his time in Mexico but converted to relief after signing a minor league deal with the Diamondbacks heading into 2021.

 

The New York native dominated over seven Double-A appearances with the D-Backs, but he struggled with home runs en route to a 5.57 ERA in a hitter-friendly environment at Triple-A Reno. Gage qualified for minor league free agency again at the end of the season, and he’s off to a career-best start in Buffalo. The 29-year-old has tossed 16 2/3 innings with the Bisons, working to a sparkling 1.08 ERA. He’s fanned an excellent 32.3% of opposing hitters against a solid 7.7% walk rate to get a big league crack.

 

Toronto just traded Ryan Borucki to the Mariners over the weekend, thinning the lefty relief mix. Borucki was out of minor league option years, though, so the Jays were limited from a roster perspective with him scuffling. Gage has a trio of options remaining, so he’ll add a more flexible arm behind Andrew Vasquez while Tim Mayza is on the injured list.

 

Pearson has been out all season recovering from mononucleosis. Today’s IL transfer is strictly a procedural move that doesn’t affect his eligibility window. He’s ruled out for sixty days from Opening Day, not today, which we’ve already surpassed. Pearson is on a rehab assignment at Buffalo and should be reinstated within a couple weeks.

[Jimcanuck]

He’s a wienie, thats what happened.

 

But for real, I believe he is pitching in AAA right now and could be nearing a return

 

How long does it take to fully recover from mononucleosis?

Most people get better in two to four weeks; however, some people may feel fatigued for several more weeks. Occasionally, the symptoms of infectious mononucleosis can last for six months or longer.