Your Blue Jays Mount Rushmore

[TwistedLogic]

Steve Simmons, Andrew Stoeten, Rosie DiManno, Damien Cox

[TwistedLogic]

Mike Wilner, Barry Davis, Gregg Zaun, Sid Seixeiro

[TwistedLogic]

[Olerud363]

Yeah George BellÂ’s D going to take him right out of the discussion for the FG crowd. Actually I guess the O wasnÂ’t that great. He washed out quick. First bad season at 33 and he was done. No DH or anything

 

Yeah. The total package wasn't there. On base percentage was mediocre, power outside of 86/87 was not top tier.

 

87 was a weird year. It was like a preview of mid 90s that just randomly happened in the 80s.

[Olerud363]

He was rumored to be on the same list as Ortiz.

 

I never heard that but nothing would surprise me.

 

Delgado was a f***ing tank at 19. I remember hearing about him in like 91 or 92 on the radio before real time prospect lists. Then I'd always buy a Bill James book at the beginning of the baseball season. In '93 Bill said about Delgado

 

'Best hitting prospect in the minor leagues. Hit 30 home runs in the Florida State league roughly equivalent to 108 at high dessert.'

 

That was sabermetrics in the 80s and early 90s. Bill James was the guy doing it, and he was kind of an odd guy, he might tell you something, he might not. He'd throw the stats he felt like out there. So like Delgado he was pointing out the differences in minor league parks... but you had to read between the lines.

 

So Delgado was naturally awesome. Then kind of a dissapointment for a few years. Then awesome for a few years. Did he 'roid? I don't know. He kind of hit the way he was suppose to. Unlike maybe say Giambi. However maybe he started slow and got frustrated and then did... not accusing him of a thing because I don't know. I mean there were guys like Bagwell, who were like 3 homer guys in the minors and matured at 40, and Delgado who was a 30 homer guy in the minors and matured to 40... so it made sense for Delgado, so I'd like to think he didn't and was the best non-roided hitter in baseball.

[Krylian]

 

Doesn't Barry Davis work at a car dealership now?

[TwistedLogic]

Doesn't Barry Davis work at a car dealership now?

 

He won't be for long now that he's on my elusive Mount Rushmore.

[bigpaulie]

Stieb

Halliday

Batista

Fernandez

[Jimcanuck]

Stieb

Halliday

Batista

Fernandez

 

Tony Batista, wow!

[Krylian]

Stieb

Halliday

Batista

Fernandez

 

Thank you for spelling Stieb correctly.

[Spanky99]

Ricky Henderson

Dave Winfield

Paul Molitor

Roger Clemens

 

Blue Jay Icons

 

Pat Gillick was the Man!!!

[Spanky99]

 

I liked Barry, he was like the Jays doofus little brother.

[guylaroche5]

Alomar, Delgado, Halladay, Bautista

 

Are there actual baseball arguments for excluding Alomar or is this purely because the guy was a ******** off the field?

[Spanky99]

Alomar, Delgado, Halladay, Bautista

 

Are there actual baseball arguments for excluding Alomar or is this purely because the guy was a ******** off the field?

 

He spit in an umps face, that might be it. How do you omit Stieb is the question?

[guylaroche5]

He spit in an umps face, that might be it. How do you omit Stieb is the question?

 

I'm a youngin' that's never seen him play (born in 92). Definitely a little recency bias in my post, can't deny it.

 

I've watched a fair bit of the 92/93 world series runs and Alomar seemed so important to both. If you were to rate the greatest Blue Jay post season homers Alomar's HR off of Eckersley has got to be top 3, such an important moment.

[Spanky99]

I'm a youngin' that's never seen him play (born in 92). Definitely a little recency bias in my post, can't deny it.

 

I've watched a fair bit of the 92/93 world series runs and Alomar seemed so important to both. If you were to rate the greatest Blue Jay post season homers Alomar's HR off of Eckersley has got to be top 3, such an important moment.

 

Alomar was awesome, I had him on my list.

[Ehjays]

I'm a youngin' that's never seen him play (born in 92). Definitely a little recency bias in my post, can't deny it.

 

I've watched a fair bit of the 92/93 world series runs and Alomar seemed so important to both. If you were to rate the greatest Blue Jay post season homers Alomar's HR off of Eckersley has got to be top 3, such an important moment.

 

The question should be "who is with Dave Stieb on the Blue Jay Mount Rushmore?"

 

BTW I cant remember who posted it a couple weeks back but they posted a Dave Stieb Youtube video that shows just how dominant he was. Part 2 is now out for anyone wishing to see it

 

Part 1

 

Part 2

 

I highly recommend it.

[Spanky99]

The question should be "who is with Dave Stieb on the Blue Jay Mount Rushmore?"

 

BTW I cant remember who posted it a couple weeks back but they posted a Dave Stieb Youtube video that shows just how dominant he was. Part 2 is now out for anyone wishing to see it

 

Part 1

 

Part 2

 

I highly recommend it.

 

Yeah, I really enjoyed those.

[Dick_Pole]

Yeah, I really enjoyed those.

 

Part 3 coming out tomorrow

[Ehjays]

Part 3 coming out tomorrow

 

Awesome thanks man, they are so well done!! It truly does show how amazing he was.

[Laika]

Alomar, Delgado, Halladay, Bautista

 

Are there actual baseball arguments for excluding Alomar or is this purely because the guy was a ******** off the field?

 

well he was with Toronto for less than 33% of his career, I guess that matters to some people

[Krylian]

well he was with Toronto for less than 33% of his career, I guess that matters to some people

 

But on the other hand he went into the HOF as a Jay.

 

If people are really honest, it's the ******** argument that is really the main issue.

[polar bear]

 

Memory fading Spanky?Great player,but disgusting character.

Should never be considered.

How about Tony Fernandez takes his spot.

[Spanky99]

Memory fading Spanky?Great player,but disgusting character.

Should never be considered.

How about Tony Fernandez takes his spot.

 

Whatever.

[Dick_Pole]

Part 3 of the Stieb series is up.

 

[BTS]

Halladay, Delgado, Stieb, Alomar

 

In 10 years Bo and Vlad displace Stieb and Alomar

[Spanky99]

Halladay, Delgado, Stieb, Alomar

 

In 10 years Bo and Vlad displace Stieb and Alomar

 

That's my list.

[Deadpool]

Part 3 of the Stieb series is up.

 

 

Man are these ever well done.

[Laika]

But on the other hand he went into the HOF as a Jay.

 

If people are really honest, it's the ******** argument that is really the main issue.

 

it's the totality of things

 

- ********

- not even a career blue jays

- arguably overrated

[BTS]

Alomar was only here for 5 years, and was really only above average for three of them. Matt Chapman's run in Oakland was about the same caliber as Alomar's run here, and nobody will remember Champan's time in Oakland 20-30 years from now. Bo and Vladdy will easily end up having more impressive Blue Jay careers.