GDT Game 3/3 Tigers @ Jays

[Key22]

This was always a growing season so I am not too concerned by the results - teams slump, players slump but experienced good teams find a way to beat mediocre teams.

 

We had a great pen at the beginning of the year but the injuries were tremendous and it proved too hard to overcome. A totally healthy Yates and Merriweather and Borucki and Hatch would have gone a long way this year.

 

As for firing the manager. Well who are you going to hire?

 

Take all the NAME managers like a Buck Showalter - just to point out that every single manager that is known to you that is not currently working was FIRED and in 99% of cases the fans hated him for mismanaging the pen or putting a bunt down that failed.

 

We recently played LAA and Eaton cost them games against us - he has such an awful arm that everyone was running on him - that's the hand their manager was dealt. Why play such a bum was my thought - he's done. Well, that's what the manager had. They released him since but...

 

 

And the manager that everyone laughed at when they hired him for being an old geezer out of touch with modern baseball - Tony La Russa - um he's winning! 72-53 first in the division with a 10 game lead. So his lack of metrics isn't hurting them. Hell Cito won two world series here and he was considered a bum.

 

Here's a thought - a fringey player should be able to get a f***ing bunt down. You are an MLB pitcher - get the hitter out. You are an all-star second baseman - throw the f***ing ball chest high to the first baseman! The manager can't play the game for the players and when management gives you Dolis and Chatwood for the 7th-8th then you are stuck with them.

[RobinThicc]

This year is a real good lesson that a bad BP will sink a good team.

[Eat My Shatkins]

This year is a real good lesson that a bad BP will sink a good team.

 

A s***** bullpen combined with a s***** manager.

 

Montardo always gave the s***** and/or cold relievers just enough rope to hang themselves.....and the team in the process.

[Captain Adama]

This was always a growing season so I am not too concerned by the results - teams slump, players slump but experienced good teams find a way to beat mediocre teams.

 

We had a great pen at the beginning of the year but the injuries were tremendous and it proved too hard to overcome. A totally healthy Yates and Merriweather and Borucki and Hatch would have gone a long way this year.

 

As for firing the manager. Well who are you going to hire?

 

Take all the NAME managers like a Buck Showalter - just to point out that every single manager that is known to you that is not currently working was FIRED and in 99% of cases the fans hated him for mismanaging the pen or putting a bunt down that failed.

 

We recently played LAA and Eaton cost them games against us - he has such an awful arm that everyone was running on him - that's the hand their manager was dealt. Why play such a bum was my thought - he's done. Well, that's what the manager had. They released him since but...

 

 

And the manager that everyone laughed at when they hired him for being an old geezer out of touch with modern baseball - Tony La Russa - um he's winning! 72-53 first in the division with a 10 game lead. So his lack of metrics isn't hurting them. Hell Cito won two world series here and he was considered a bum.

 

Here's a thought - a fringey player should be able to get a f***ing bunt down. You are an MLB pitcher - get the hitter out. You are an all-star second baseman - throw the f***ing ball chest high to the first baseman! The manager can't play the game for the players and when management gives you Dolis and Chatwood for the 7th-8th then you are stuck with them.

 

Reminds me of this:

 

[Spanky99]

This was always a growing season so I am not too concerned by the results - teams slump, players slump but experienced good teams find a way to beat mediocre teams.

 

We had a great pen at the beginning of the year but the injuries were tremendous and it proved too hard to overcome. A totally healthy Yates and Merriweather and Borucki and Hatch would have gone a long way this year.

 

As for firing the manager. Well who are you going to hire?

 

Take all the NAME managers like a Buck Showalter - just to point out that every single manager that is known to you that is not currently working was FIRED and in 99% of cases the fans hated him for mismanaging the pen or putting a bunt down that failed.

 

We recently played LAA and Eaton cost them games against us - he has such an awful arm that everyone was running on him - that's the hand their manager was dealt. Why play such a bum was my thought - he's done. Well, that's what the manager had. They released him since but...

 

 

And the manager that everyone laughed at when they hired him for being an old geezer out of touch with modern baseball - Tony La Russa - um he's winning! 72-53 first in the division with a 10 game lead. So his lack of metrics isn't hurting them. Hell Cito won two world series here and he was considered a bum.

 

Here's a thought - a fringey player should be able to get a f***ing bunt down. You are an MLB pitcher - get the hitter out. You are an all-star second baseman - throw the f***ing ball chest high to the first baseman! The manager can't play the game for the players and when management gives you Dolis and Chatwood for the 7th-8th then you are stuck with them.

 

lol... Montoyo suxxxxxxxxxxx

 

Gibbons >>>> Montoyo... actually anyone but Chuckles, please!

[Stangstag]

Pain.

[Stangstag]

The more I watch the play, the more I realize how badly Vlad f***ed up.

 

Yes, the throw was low but Vlad made no stretch towards the ball. He could have caught the ball without a bounce but instead he tried to catch it on a short hop for some reason? Stupid play on both ends. Awful loss

[Spanky99]

Bad Ass!!! < Brandon Savage!

[Spanky99]

8 walks in the last 10 games

 

If we were seeing the same Vlad as earlier, there'd be far more BB's at the moment, he needs them to bring it back in the zone or just walk more. That's the best Vladito, that's the fun guy we want.

[Spanky99]

The more I watch the play, the more I realize how badly Vlad f***ed up.

 

Yes, the throw was low but Vlad made no stretch towards the ball. He could have caught the ball without a bounce but instead he tried to catch it on a short hop for some reason? Stupid play on both ends. Awful loss

 

100% on Semien bro, should've been in the chest. That was chucked away.

[Brownie19]

The more I watch the play, the more I realize how badly Vlad f***ed up.

 

Yes, the throw was low but Vlad made no stretch towards the ball. He could have caught the ball without a bounce but instead he tried to catch it on a short hop for some reason? Stupid play on both ends. Awful loss

 

1st basemen are taught to "expect a bad throw". Vlad definitely had it on cruise control, expecting a normal throw. This is still on Semien, but I agree that Vlad wasn't as prepared as he should have been.

[Daniel Labude]

If we were seeing the same Vlad as earlier, there'd be far more BB's at the moment, he needs them to bring it back in the zone or just walk more. That's the best Vladito, that's the fun guy we want.

 

Agreed. He has been really swing happy

[Daniel Labude]

The more I watch the play, the more I realize how badly Vlad f***ed up.

 

Yes, the throw was low but Vlad made no stretch towards the ball. He could have caught the ball without a bounce but instead he tried to catch it on a short hop for some reason? Stupid play on both ends. Awful loss

 

You don't stretch on short distance throws from 2B in that situation. Absolutely no reason an MLB player should spike that throw

[Stangstag]

You don't stretch on short distance throws from 2B in that situation. Absolutely no reason an MLB player should spike that throw

 

True, but if you watch where the ball bounced it was like 2 feet away from the bag. Easily catchable on the fly with even a small stretch. They BOTH need to do better on that play

[max silver]

True, but if you watch where the ball bounced it was like 2 feet away from the bag. Easily catchable on the fly with even a small stretch. They BOTH need to do better on that play

 

I'm sure Vladdy is as disappointed as anybody he didn't catch that throw, but if you are going to assign blame it's like 99.9% on Semien. It was a super routine throw that he botched.

[Laika]

This wasn't even the first time a Jays infielder has done this on a routine grounder to cost us the game. Remember this one at the 1:45 mark?

 

 

 

I pretend I do not see this.

 

Instead I will go to 1:30 and watch that play.

[Stangstag]

This wasn't even the first time a Jays infielder has done this on a routine grounder to cost us the game. Remember this one at the 1:45 mark?

 

 

 

Oh god I forgot about this one

[BigCecil]

I pretend I do not see this.

 

Instead I will go to 1:30 and watch that play.

 

I remember that Jose play at first. Was beautiful. I think he tried it another time soon after and hurt his arm pretty badly? Fluke it happened on that try. Was never really the same after that for arm strength. Was his best tool in the OF.

[Stangstag]

I remember that Jose play at first. Was beautiful. I think he tried it another time soon after and hurt his arm pretty badly? Fluke it happened on that try. Was never really the same after that for arm strength. Was his best tool in the OF.

 

Yeah lol i’m pretty sure he tried to throw out Odor at 1st and that’s when he f***ed his shoulder. His arm robounded the next year though from what I remember