2021 Toronto Blue Jays Draft Signing Table | Results, Rumors and Bonus Amounts

[glory]

and some NCAA coaches arent concern over a pitchers health as long as they rack up the W's with 130 pitches thrown!

 

Yeah, not sure about the rest of his Vandy career, but in his 19 K no hitter, he threw 131 pitches. I'm sure he was throwing 120+ on the regular. Three years of college for a P is just an unnecessary risk if the money is there out of HS. Wish he got better advice as a teenager.

[connorp]

https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/college/vanderbilt/2019/02/13/kumar-rocker-draft-mlb-vanderbilt-baseball/2823061002/

 

Could have been a millionaire out of HS and possibly reached the Majors already, but listened to his parents (mom) and went to school instead. His arm would have still blown out, but at least he could have been paid first. Rocker's career goal was to reach MLB. He could have done that out of HS. Now he has an education that he may or may not have even cared about and it cost him 3-4 years of his pro career and millions of dollars in the process. Hitters choosing to go to college is more logical since the level of injury risk is much less, but for a pitcher to do it, especially when they could have conceivably gotten 1st round money out of HS, is a massive risk.

 

f***ing moms lol. Really a no-brainer. Can go to school any time

[Deadpool]

f***ing moms lol. Really a no-brainer. Can go to school any time

 

True 'nuff, I was 33 when I went back to school.

[Benito]

Even with TJS, he'd probably be faster to the league than whoever they pick #11 next year.

 

And Rocker's going to have literally no leverage next year and would have benefited from rehabbing in a world-class major league facility.

 

This move is puzzling and hurts both parties.

 

It just sounds like the Mets found something in the physical, lowballed him, and Rocker's camp refused to take the pay cut out of spite/anger.

 

But whatever the Mets' lowball offer was, it was probably still better than what he'll make next time without all the added risk.

 

Mets might not have even tabled an offer. Their medical reports must have shown something really bad? Hard to believe otherwise. Rocker might have accepted a lower offer (than 6 mil) knowing the risks of waiting another year, and loss of future potential earnings.

 

[Jimcanuck]

So Rocker is going to have to pay for TJS (or whatever arm reconstruction is needed) out of his own pocket, probably.

 

Not cheap.

[connorp]

True 'nuff, I was 33 when I went back to school.

 

Yeah it’s probably even better to go to school later as you’re exposed to real life by then and go with more of a purpose.

[TwistedLogic]

Mets might not have even tabled an offer. Their medical reports must have shown something really bad? Hard to believe otherwise. Rocker might have accepted a lower offer (than 6 mil) knowing the risks of waiting another year, and loss of future potential earnings.

 

 

That's brutal. If this is true then I feel terrible for Rocker.

[Krylian]

Will be interested to see how things shake out for the Rock next draft

[metafour]

Even with TJS, he'd probably be faster to the league than whoever they pick #11 next year.

 

How so? Next year's draft projects to be at least as good, if not better than this year's. There should be an "equally advanced" college pitcher or hitter available to them at #11, one that hypothetically wouldn't be carrying a looming injury hanging over their head.

 

And really, the "big deal" with these medical disagreements is that they often involve micro-tears or subjective damage. So what often ends up happening is that there's slight damage or concern, but not enough to warrant surgery. So the player is healthy enough to pitch, but they just end up inevitably blowing out their arm anyway in short order. So with Rocker I'm sure the fear was that if they sign him, he makes a handful of starts in the minors next year and completely tears his elbow (thus confirming their pre-draft physical)...and then he's sitting out till potentially 2024. In many ways its entirely preferable to draft someone like Hoglund: he had the surgery and now you get to recover him in an MLB rehabilitation program, as opposed to getting a pitcher who's waffling in between healthy and injured and just waiting to hear a pop in the elbow.

[Slade]

If Rocker submitted an MRI to the MLB before the draft the Mets would of had no choice but to offer him some kind of deal to get the compensation pick next year but he never did so the Mets didn't have to offer him anything. I expect he's going to go the Carter Stewart route so he gets paid somewhere.

[metafour]

If Rocker submitted an MRI to the MLB before the draft the Mets would of had no choice but to offer him some kind of deal to get the compensation pick next year but he never did so the Mets didn't have to offer him anything. I expect he's going to go the Carter Stewart route so he gets paid somewhere.

 

I don't think that would have made any difference. Under that scenario all they'd need to offer him is 40% of the slot, and there's no way that Boras would accept that - especially seeing that he's apparently not even injured to the point of surgery being required.

[connorp]

If Rocker submitted an MRI to the MLB before the draft the Mets would of had no choice but to offer him some kind of deal to get the compensation pick next year but he never did so the Mets didn't have to offer him anything. I expect he's going to go the Carter Stewart route so he gets paid somewhere.

 

Seems like if he did he would’ve dropped hard though. As someone said, it seems almost preferable if they’re already in the process, instead of an Aiken situation where they blow it out the next spring and now they’re spending 2024 on inning counts in the minors

[TwistedLogic]

Prediction: Steve Cohen made another mess for the owners in the upcoming CBA with this tweet:

 

[Spanky99]

Prediction: Steve Cohen made another mess for the owners in the upcoming CBA with this tweet:

 

 

lol

[Scion]

Prediction: Steve Cohen made another mess for the owners in the upcoming CBA with this tweet:

 

 

If it did result in draft picks commanding more money it would only benefit rich teams like his.

[Krylian]

They need to allow picks to be traded

[TwistedLogic]

If it did result in draft picks commanding more money it would only benefit rich teams like his.

 

The MLBPA doesn't care about minor leaguers and draft prospects. If they were going to use this in their case, it wouldn't be to negotiate for higher draft bonuses. They'd use it as leverage to negotiate for higher current salaries.

 

IE: "You already admitted you get us for such a massive discount in the draft, pay us more when we get to the major leagues."

[Eat My Shatkins]

The Toronto Blue Jays have signed two non-drafted free agents:

 

• C Nicolas Deschamps, a 5-11, 190 lb. left-handed hitter from Quebec City, QC, who played last season for TNXL Academy in Florida.

 

• C/INF Andres Sosa, a 5-11, 210 lb. right-handed hitter from Hermosillo, Mexico, who played at Dallas Baptist University.

[Krylian]

The Toronto Blue Jays have signed two non-drafted free agents:

 

• C Nicolas Deschamps, a 5-11, 190 lb. left-handed hitter from Quebec City, QC, who played last season for TNXL Academy in Florida.

 

• C/INF Andres Sosa, a 5-11, 210 lb. right-handed hitter from Hermosillo, Mexico, who played at Dallas Baptist University.

 

They love their catchers

[Stangstag]

Prediction: Steve Cohen made another mess for the owners in the upcoming CBA with this tweet:

 

 

What a dumbass. Just shut up dude