GDT (2/3) | Blue Jays (33-32) vs. Yankees (34-32) | June 16 — 7:07 PM

[Brownie19]

How can Grichuk look so locked in for a month and then look like he’s never swung a bat the next month. Seriously his plate discipline just goes out the window for weeks on end

 

Grichuk since May 8th

 

88 wRC+

2.2 BB%

25.2 K%

 

Tellez since May 8th

111 wRC+

9.0 BB%

19.2 K%

 

It will be interesting to see if we cut Grichuk's playing time when Springer returns (assuming he returns and plays CF). Predictably, Grichuk has gone cold and all the adjustments that Buck drools over each night aren't sustainable and/or don't matter. It's like clockwork.

[connorp]

Panik deserved it.

 

You make s*****, dumb plays you should have to take some s*** for it.

 

Stripling is hardly Degrom. Does he really want the shoe on the other foot one day in the near future when he’s getting lit up? He’s not good enough to be calling people out. Nobody likes the s***** kid on the team acting like a captain

[gruber92]

yeah, if you're a bitch.

 

wtf is wrong with you, take your meds ffs

 

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Daniel Labude]

Grichuk since May 8th

 

88 wRC+

2.2 BB%

25.2 K%

 

Tellez since May 8th

111 wRC+

9.0 BB%

19.2 K%

 

It will be interesting to see if we cut Grichuk's playing time when Springer returns (assuming he returns and plays CF). Predictably, Grichuk has gone cold and all the adjustments that Buck drools over each night aren't sustainable and/or don't matter. It's like clockwork.

 

Defense makes up for the cold bat and will probably get more value with him in the field and Gurriel DHing

[Stangstag]

Grichuk since May 8th

 

88 wRC+

2.2 BB%

25.2 K%

 

Tellez since May 8th

111 wRC+

9.0 BB%

19.2 K%

 

It will be interesting to see if we cut Grichuk's playing time when Springer returns (assuming he returns and plays CF). Predictably, Grichuk has gone cold and all the adjustments that Buck drools over each night aren't sustainable and/or don't matter. It's like clockwork.

 

Yeah sucks to see. He had sustained his “good approach” for like 6 or so weeks, longest stretch he’s looked solid at the plate. Every time he looks to have “found it”, he falls right back into one of his cold freezes.

 

He’ll still get enough playtime rotating him through RF and the occasional CF start to give Springer a break. But i’d like to see Tellez get more chances if possible.

 

Which is worse, having Gurriel in the field or Grichuk in the lineup? Probably better to let Grich play RF

 

Idk

[JFD]

Stripling probably wouldn't have felt the need to yell at Panik if the clubhouse had any sort of accountability.

[5ToolPhenom]

How can Grichuk look so locked in for a month and then look like he’s never swung a bat the next month. Seriously his plate discipline just goes out the window for weeks on end

 

Have you never watched Randal Grichuk play? He's ALWAYS been streaky as hell.

[5ToolPhenom]

Grichuk since May 8th

 

88 wRC+

2.2 BB%

25.2 K%

 

Tellez since May 8th

111 wRC+

9.0 BB%

19.2 K%

 

It will be interesting to see if we cut Grichuk's playing time when Springer returns (assuming he returns and plays CF). Predictably, Grichuk has gone cold and all the adjustments that Buck drools over each night aren't sustainable and/or don't matter. It's like clockwork.

 

Damn, I didn't realize Rowdy was doing so well. As much as I don't see much of a future for him, we could definitely use some production from the left hand side. Hopefully he can keep it going.

[Laika]

Stripling probably wouldn't have felt the need to yell at Panik if the clubhouse had any sort of accountability.

 

Stripling is one of the veterans. He is the clubhouse. And he held himself accountable apparently

[Krylian]

Stripling is one of the veterans. He is the clubhouse. And he held himself accountable apparently

 

Ya. Verlander called him out and Stripling agreed that it was a bush league move.

[Brownie19]

Defense makes up for the cold bat and will probably get more value with him in the field and Gurriel DHing

 

Grichuk has been a negative defender the past 4 years (although playing 'out of position in CF' hasn't helped). He's in the 20th percentile for Outs Above Average and in the 9th percentile for Outfield Jumps. He's also been awful on the base paths this year.

 

I'm not sure that's going to make up for those long cold stretches where he hits like Ryan Goins. The only reason you really consider it is because of how bad defensively Gurriel has been.

 

I fully expect he'll continue to get lots of playing time - but I don't think he should be locked into the starting lineup once we get Springer back.

[Laika]

Grichuk f***ing sucks. I mean, he's a league average player at best and he just is what he is.

 

It was and is so cringey to see Buck and Tabby lick his glutes every time he awkwardly / accidentally punches a ball 80 mph to right field, beating the shift for a single. Yeah right, he's worked so hard and changed his whole approach!

[Stangstag]

Have you never watched Randal Grichuk play? He's ALWAYS been streaky as hell.

 

Oh im fully aware, I just can’t wrap my head around it.

[wilko]

This game was frustrating to watch. That 9th inning was a shitshow. Vlad was clearly safe and Charlie camly waddles out there with that stupid look on his face.

[glory]

It's easy to get fooled by Grichuk hot streaks because when he's hot, he's really hot. You want to believe he's turned a corner. Then the cold streak comes and you realize that he is what he is, and always will be. Even if Springer were healthy all season I would have expected Grichuk to play a lot more than Tellez (minor league managers will always favor the vetrins), and I expect nothing different when Springer gets back. Unfortunately, Grichuk is probably never going to be used as a true 4th OF as long as he's on this team given his "tenure" and contract. If he ever was used that way, then he'd be a lot more valuable over the course of a season.

 

Since 2018:

 

Grichuk: 3.8 WAR, 1587 PA

Pillar: 5.1 WAR, 1545 PA

 

Expectations for the Grichster should be pretty darn low at this point.

[Laika]

It's easy to get fooled by Grichuk hot streaks because when he's hot, he's really hot. You want to believe he's turned a corner. Then the cold streak comes and you realize that he is what he is, and always will be. Even if Springer were healthy all season I would have expected Grichuk to play a lot more than Tellez (minor league managers will always favor the vetrins), and I expect nothing different when Springer gets back. Unfortunately, Grichuk is probably never going to be used as a true 4th OF as long as he's on this team given his "tenure" and contract. If he ever was used that way, then he'd be a lot more valuable over the course of a season.

 

Since 2018:

 

Grichuk: 3.8 WAR, 1587 PA

Pillar: 5.1 WAR, 1545 PA

 

Expectations for the Grichster should be pretty darn low at this point.

 

Sad but perfectly valid comparison. Pillar is probably better than Grichuk, all things considered. Bad contract!

[RobinThicc]

Sell high on the Grich

[connorp]

Ya. Verlander called him out and Stripling agreed that it was a bush league move.

 

I feel you should add “Ben” in this case when saying “Verlander”

[Spanky99]

Ya. Verlander called him out and Stripling agreed that it was a bush league move.

 

Where'd you see this, I'd like to see it? Provide a link man, once in awhile.

 

Who's Ben Verlander, f***, I thought you meant Justin, misleading post is misleading...

 

[connorp]

Where'd you see this, I'd like to see it? Provide a link man, once in awhile.

 

It was in one of these threads dumbass

[Spanky99]

It was in one of these threads dumbass

 

I haven't seen it yet, ya f***ing gnat.

[connorp]

I haven't seen it yet, ya f***ing gnat.

 

You posted right below it in BJ Discussion thread

[5ToolPhenom]

It's easy to get fooled by Grichuk hot streaks because when he's hot, he's really hot. You want to believe he's turned a corner. Then the cold streak comes and you realize that he is what he is, and always will be. Even if Springer were healthy all season I would have expected Grichuk to play a lot more than Tellez (minor league managers will always favor the vetrins), and I expect nothing different when Springer gets back. Unfortunately, Grichuk is probably never going to be used as a true 4th OF as long as he's on this team given his "tenure" and contract. If he ever was used that way, then he'd be a lot more valuable over the course of a season.

 

Since 2018:

 

Grichuk: 3.8 WAR, 1587 PA

Pillar: 5.1 WAR, 1545 PA

 

Expectations for the Grichster should be pretty darn low at this point.

 

Damn, that's a telling stat haha:eek:

[Spanky99]

Damn, that's a telling stat haha:eek:

 

It's defense driven, he's talking about the bat and using WAR which is flawed, he should post the wRC+ numbers, they're not close. He's absolutely correct about the hot and cold streaks.

[5ToolPhenom]

No doubt. But still, I would've guessed that Grich accumulated more WAR

[Spanky99]

No doubt. But still, I would've guessed that Grich accumulated more WAR

 

Well defensively it's reeeeally not close, lol.

[BigCecil]

Grichuk f***ing sucks. I mean, he's a league average player at best and he just is what he is.

 

It was and is so cringey to see Buck and Tabby lick his glutes every time he awkwardly / accidentally punches a ball 80 mph to right field, beating the shift for a single. Yeah right, he's worked so hard and changed his whole approach!

 

Early on in season listening to baseball central and Jeff Blair jerking off to a RF single says “Grichuk is going to hit .300 this year” lol. As if that’s means much and as if a Grichuk hot streak lasts 162 games. Look at his wRC+. Regression to the mean. He is what he is always. Basically a replacement level OF on offence and D.

[Spanky99]

Early on in season listening to baseball central and Jeff Blair jerking off to a RF single says “Grichuk is going to hit .300 this year” lol. As if that’s means much and as if a Grichuk hot streak lasts 162 games. Look at his wRC+. Regression to the mean. He is what he is always. Basically a replacement level OF on offence and D.

 

Replacement level??? C'mon...

[Brownie19]

Early on in season listening to baseball central and Jeff Blair jerking off to a RF single says “Grichuk is going to hit .300 this year” lol. As if that’s means much and as if a Grichuk hot streak lasts 162 games. Look at his wRC+. Regression to the mean. He is what he is always. Basically a replacement level OF on offence and D.

 

Buck, Blair....all those f***ing useless on-air personalities do this on a yearly basis. Rinse and repeat. They are horrible for the game of baseball IMO.

[Laika]

Replacement level??? C'mon...

 

He meant league average, but let's be honest - Grichuk has a very flimsy skill set and he's like, one tick of lost bat speed or foot speed away from being literally replacement level.

 

There is no upside anymore. I just don't see it. Hope for 2 WAR and pray he doesn't turn into a total pumpkin at some point.