General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2021)

[Spanky99]

Stats say he's a plus plus fielder. Fangraphs has him ranked 21st for Defensive Runs Saved for all OFers. While having less innings played than a lot of the people ahead of him.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=of&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=10&type=1&season=2021&month=0&season1=2021&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2021-01-01&enddate=2021-12-31&sort=13,d

 

He's just filler until Springer's back, I guess Palacios goes down now, and he'll be DFA'd when George comes back.

[Jays24]

He's just filler until Springer's back, I guess Palacios goes down now, and he'll be DFA'd when George comes back.

 

Hope this isn't news that Springer is going to be out longer than expected. A lot were expecting for Springer to play today.

[Spanky99]

Hope this isn't news that Springer is going to be out longer than expected. A lot were expecting for Springer to play today.

 

Today, where are you guys getting that news? lol

[max silver]

Should we give the hitting coach credit for Semien or just chalk that up to 2020 being an outlier season?

 

I understand your point and I'm sure Walker does do good work since you never hear a bad word about him. I'm just saying why don't we hear anything about him when our bullpen has been trash the entire year or when the likes of Anderson/Roark/Garcia s*** the bed.

 

Other than Manoah/Romano, who is the last Jays pitcher that we truly developed from the bottom to the top during Shapiro's tenure? Just playing devil's advocate here.

 

Anderson, Roark and and Garcia were all terrible washed up pitchers by the time they pitched with the Jays. You can attempt to polish a turd but in the end up you are left with is a shiny turd.

 

Matz is another recent success story as he has turned around his career nicely under the tutelage of Walker.

 

You can't blame Walker for all of Yates, Merryweather and Phelps being hurt and missing most if not all of the season. Chatwood was absolutely dealing before the sticky stuff crackdown. Romano and Mayza have both been developed into great late inning pitchers under Walker. Most of the failed bullpen guys have been waiver wire retreads, not sure if the pitching coach is to blame when guys who failed under other pitching coaches and get passed around through waivers ended up failing again as Blue Jays.

[Spanky99]

[jonboy71]

Any Jays and RUSH fans making the trek to Detroit this weekend? If so, if anyone is willing to grab some of that new RUSH beer and bring me a few cans, that would be awesome! Beer only available in Canada. I'll be driving up from Kentucky for the Sat and Sun game. And yes, I'm a Jays fan!

[Daniel Labude]

[Eat My Shatkins]

Merryweather and Pearson both pitched for the Bisons tonight.

 

Merryweather - 0.2 IP / 2 hits / 1 earned run / 1 walk / 2 Ks // Can't be good that they yanked after 2 outs I don't think, probably tweaked something knowing him. s***** outing anyways though just looking at the box score. Maybe some bloops and/or a squeezing ump? I dunno

 

Pearson - 1.0 IP / 2 hits / 1 earned run / 0 walks 2 Ks

 

Dolis also pitched and took the L, giving up 1 walk, 1 run, 1 hit and 1 K

 

The bullpen sucks ass down there too. With that line up of relievers you'd think it'd be endless 0's going up

[Eat My Shatkins]

Martinez hopefully heating up.

 

Went 3 for 5 last night with a double and 2 for 4 so far tonight with another double.

 

4 game hit streak / 7 for 17 with 1 HR, 2 2B, 1 BB

[Krylian]

Merryweather and Pearson both pitched for the Bisons tonight.

 

Merryweather - 0.2 IP / 2 hits / 1 earned run / 1 walk / 2 Ks // Can't be good that they yanked after 2 outs I don't think, probably tweaked something knowing him. s***** outing anyways though just looking at the box score. Maybe some bloops and/or a squeezing ump? I dunno

 

 

My money goes on pitch count. He was at 23 pitches.

[Spanky99]

This answers a few questions and clogs the DH versatility.

 

[BCZ]

Apparently there is a functional reason for cropping certain dog breeds ears.

 

https://www.canecorso.org/ear-cropping.html

 

ya no

[Stangstag]

ya no

 

Yeah most of that info is pretty BS or overblown.

 

People do it for the look, and “the look” comes from the fact that it was originally done for fighting dogs and hunting dogs. 99% of these dogs are just chilling in the house all day and it’s completely unnecessary.

[Daniel Labude]

Martinez hopefully heating up.

 

Went 3 for 5 last night with a double and 2 for 4 so far tonight with another double.

 

4 game hit streak / 7 for 17 with 1 HR, 2 2B, 1 BB

 

1-2 with another HR and 2 BBs today (in the 7th inning now)

[bones10]

Anyone else feel like this team could actually end up doing some damage in the playoffs if they could just get in. Ray, Berrios and Manoah/Ryu is a pretty solid starting rotation, and the offense is definitely much better than what they're showing now, especially with (if?) Springer back. The pen is a problem obviously, with Romano and Mayza being the only very reliable ones at the moment, would have to hope for great returns from Merryweather and Pearson.

[connorp]

Anyone else feel like this team could actually end up doing some damage in the playoffs if they could just get in. Ray, Berrios and Manoah/Ryu is a pretty solid starting rotation, and the offense is definitely much better than what they're showing now, especially with (if?) Springer back. The pen is a problem obviously, with Romano and Mayza being the only very reliable ones at the moment, would have to hope for great returns from Merryweather and Pearson.

 

They’re not getting in

[bones10]

They’re not getting in

 

yeah they are

[Eat My Shatkins]

This is a big week for the Jays playoff hopes.

 

We're playing the Orioles for 3 games and then the A's

 

Meanwhile, Boston plays 7 of their next 10 against the Rays.

 

Also, the Mariners play 6 of 9 against Houston, although they also play 6 of 12 vs Arizona, so....

 

Anyway, this would be a great time for the bats to break out and fuel a 8-10 game win streak.

[max silver]

Anyone else feel like this team could actually end up doing some damage in the playoffs if they could just get in. Ray, Berrios and Manoah/Ryu is a pretty solid starting rotation, and the offense is definitely much better than what they're showing now, especially with (if?) Springer back. The pen is a problem obviously, with Romano and Mayza being the only very reliable ones at the moment, would have to hope for great returns from Merryweather and Pearson.

 

I want to get excited about this team and rest of the season but this just seems like such a fool's errand with how many times they've disappointed us already.

[WryNGinger]

Anyone else feel like this team could actually end up doing some damage in the playoffs if they could just get in. Ray, Berrios and Manoah/Ryu is a pretty solid starting rotation, and the offense is definitely much better than what they're showing now, especially with (if?) Springer back. The pen is a problem obviously, with Romano and Mayza being the only very reliable ones at the moment, would have to hope for great returns from Merryweather and Pearson.

 

My nerves won't be able to handle the Jays making the playoffs. Between expecting a bone-headed infield throwing error, a head-shaking batting substitution, a relief pitcher implosion or an insanely bad route by one of the corner outfielders I think my head would explode.

[intentional wok]

Anyone else feel like this team could actually end up doing some damage in the playoffs if they could just get in. Ray, Berrios and Manoah/Ryu is a pretty solid starting rotation, and the offense is definitely much better than what they're showing now, especially with (if?) Springer back. The pen is a problem obviously, with Romano and Mayza being the only very reliable ones at the moment, would have to hope for great returns from Merryweather and Pearson.

 

They definitely could do a lot of damage. But it does sort of look like a season's worth of self-owning themselves is going to keep them from that opportunity.

[Spanky99]

Anyone else feel like this team could actually end up doing some damage in the playoffs if they could just get in. Ray, Berrios and Manoah/Ryu is a pretty solid starting rotation, and the offense is definitely much better than what they're showing now, especially with (if?) Springer back. The pen is a problem obviously, with Romano and Mayza being the only very reliable ones at the moment, would have to hope for great returns from Merryweather and Pearson.

 

Yes.

[John_Havok]

I want to get excited about this team and rest of the season but this just seems like such a fool's errand with how many times they've disappointed us already.

 

It's possible, it's just not likely. So much would have to go right for the Jays to make the playoffs that it's just not a likely outcome. It's not even about the Jays possibly shooting themselves in the foot in a game, it's the fact that 3 or 4 more teams would all have to go .500 or worse while the Jays win 2 out of every 3 for the rest of the season. Could the Jays win 2 out of 3 the rest of the way? Sure, but will 4 solid teams suddenly all go .500 or worse a the same time? Nope.

[bones10]

It's possible, it's just not likely. So much would have to go right for the Jays to make the playoffs that it's just not a likely outcome. It's not even about the Jays possibly shooting themselves in the foot in a game, it's the fact that 3 or 4 more teams would all have to go .500 or worse while the Jays win 2 out of every 3 for the rest of the season. Could the Jays win 2 out of 3 the rest of the way? Sure, but will 4 solid teams suddenly all go .500 or worse a the same time? Nope.

 

Well the Mariners almost certainly will.

[glory]

5.5 games back with 3 teams to pass and 33 games to go is a huge long shot. The one positive is that over 50% of their remaining games are against Baltimore and Minnesota, but this team just laid an egg and went 5-9 in a stretch against LAA, Seattle, Washington, and Detroit this past month. Can't assume anything. They'd have go something like 14-3 against BAL/MIN the rest of the way and then 8-8 against everyone else. That would get them to 90 wins, and even then, there's no guarantee that the other teams (Boston/Oakland specifically) won't surpass that total anyway.

 

As conflicted as I am with this team right now (wanting them to win but also not against a collapse so Buntoyo is gone), would be nice to at least have meaningful games in late September.

[John_Havok]

Well the Mariners almost certainly will.

 

How so? Theyre 1 game better than the jays and have virtually the same scenario, just with 1 less team to catch.

 

yes, I would agree the Mariner's making it is more likely than the Jays making it simply because they're already ahead, but either team making it is unlikely.

[Spanky99]

How so? Theyre 1 game better than the jays and have virtually the same scenario, just with 1 less team to catch.

 

yes, I would agree the Mariner's making it is more likely than the Jays making it simply because they're already ahead, but either team making it is unlikely.

 

lol... thanks tips.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds

[Brownie19]

Springer is back!

 

Blue Jays activated OF George Springer from the 10-day injured list.

 

Manager Charlie Montoyo said he'd leave it up to Springer whether or not he'd return Monday after running the bases again pregame, and evidently the outfielder is feeling up to the task. Springer is in the designated hitter spot and leading off against the Orioles and it wouldn't be a surprise if he remains a DH for a while to ease back into things.

[Spanky99]

Springer is back!

 

Blue Jays activated OF George Springer from the 10-day injured list.

 

Manager Charlie Montoyo said he'd leave it up to Springer whether or not he'd return Monday after running the bases again pregame, and evidently the outfielder is feeling up to the task. Springer is in the designated hitter spot and leading off against the Orioles and it wouldn't be a surprise if he remains a DH for a while to ease back into things.

 

Woohoo... play Kirk behind the dish Chuckles!

[Jays24]

Jays are just another level of fun when Springer is in the lineup. Please play Kirk and let's proceed with the stacked lineup!