General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2021)

[rydermike]

Get some of that Trash Can banging culture here lol.

 

It's a lot easier to hear those trash cans when there's no fans in the ballpark

[GeorgiaPeach]

I don't agree with your opinion that we only signed Semien because we lost out on Brantley. Their pursuit of a DH was independent of their search for a 3B. We weren't going to roll with Espinal/Vlad at 3B.

 

Trading an outfielder for a pitcher and signing someone is probably still on the table, despite your insistence that it is not.

 

I have to agree with Spanky on this one

[Jays24]

It's a lot easier to hear those trash cans when there's no fans in the ballpark

 

 

Always makes me laugh lol.

[Spanky99]

 

Always makes me laugh lol.

 

lol

[Ex Player]

Liriano didnt pitch at all in 2020 (at least not in North-America):

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/liriafr01.shtml

 

He's only a ST invitee, so its not a bad move I guess.

Maybe he can still be useful as a mop-up guy??

[Jimcanuck]

Liriano didnt pitch at all in 2020 (at least not in North-America):

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/liriafr01.shtml

 

He's only a ST invitee, so its not a bad move I guess.

Maybe he can still be useful as a mop-up guy??

 

Let's see what he's got first. Maybe he could be an Andrew Miller type.

[Laika]

Let's see what he's got first. Maybe he could be an Andrew Miller type.

 

??????

 

You know Liriano is 37, right? And he was a full time reliever in 2019...

 

There's a chance he has stayed in shape and the fastball is still there. He could be a decent backend or middle RP.

[Eat My Shatkins]

They're just tossing mud against the wall to see what sticks.

 

If they want Kay starting in AAA, and Ray starting in the show, then Borucki is the only left handed reliever on the 40 man. Hopefully at least one of Mayza or Liriano show they are good enough to warrant a spot so they can have some high leverage left handed options out of the pen. Too bad they couldn't get Hand to sign.

[Jimcanuck]

??????

 

You know Liriano is 37, right? And he was a full time reliever in 2019...

 

There's a chance he has stayed in shape and the fastball is still there. He could be a decent backend or middle RP.

 

Fix your sarcasm detector. Every day on BJMB someone refers to some random reliever as a possible Andrew Miller type.

[Laika]

Fix your sarcasm detector. Every day on BJMB someone refers to some random reliever as a possible Andrew Miller type.

 

You're too old to make memes, Jim.

[Jimcanuck]

You're too old to make memes, Jim.

 

Agist!

[Deadpool]

Liriano didnt pitch at all in 2020 (at least not in North-America):

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/liriafr01.shtml

 

He's only a ST invitee, so its not a bad move I guess.

Maybe he can still be useful as a mop-up guy??

 

It's 100% impossible for a minor league w/ spring training invite signing to be bad.

 

I mean, I suppose there's a possible, theoretical signing that could end up being bad if you somehow hired a 5 year old to draft the contract, and it was for a guaranteed forfteen bajillion dollerz and that somehow held up in court... But Dave Stewart isn't a GM anymore...

[Grant77]

Our interest in Yadier Molina is a little puzzling to me. He's looking for a full time gig, which we can't really offer. His path to playing time is far clearer in St. Louis.

[THANOS]

Our interest in Yadier Molina is a little puzzling to me. He's looking for a full time gig, which we can't really offer. His path to playing time is far clearer in St. Louis.

 

Maybe at this stage in his career he wants ro win more and perhaps that's the selling point from Toronto's perspective. I think this also means that Toronto wants Kirk to get everyday ABs in AAA this season.

[THANOS]

Or maybe, as I'm just thinking about it now, they are signing Molina, and exploring trades for one of Jansen/Kirk/Moreno for their #2 SP? Hmmm, if only we were privy to the machinations going on.

[P2F]

I'm not reading anything into this rumour myself. It's just Jon the pawn shilling for the agents, I'm sure.

[RobinThicc]

Molina trying to work a couple extra million out of st louis.

[jerb]

[Captain Adama]

I mean, he's not wrong.

[Ex Player]

Liriano signed to minor L. deal as well (in addition to ST invite)

[Orgfiller]

Liriano signed to minor L. deal as well (in addition to ST invite)

 

You literally already talked about this lol.

 

Liriano didnt pitch at all in 2020 (at least not in North-America):

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/liriafr01.shtml

 

He's only a ST invitee, so its not a bad move I guess.

Maybe he can still be useful as a mop-up guy??

[Jays24]

You literally already talked about this lol.

 

LOL... cocaine's one hell of a drug lol

[connorp]

I think he was assuming adding that he signed a minor league deal was worthy of another post on the subject. It was not

[Ex Player]

You literally already talked about this lol

I only posted the ST invite

 

I think he was assuming adding that he signed a minor league deal was worthy of another post on the subject. It was not

And why not?

[Orgfiller]

I only posted the ST invite

 

If he got an ST invite the minor league deal is kind of implied if not downright assumed. You think the Jays management just told him "hey Francisco, feel free to come on down to Dunedin and hang out with the boys"? Of course he signed a minor league deal. He's a NRI to ST, there's literally no other contract he could have signed for this to be the case.

[Ex Player]

If he got an ST invite the minor league deal is kind of implied if not downright assumed. You think the Jays management just told him "hey Francisco, feel free to come on down to Dunedin and hang out with the boys"? Of course he signed a minor league deal. He's a NRI to ST, there's literally no other contract he could have signed for this to be the case

Nope, there have been players in the past who were only invited to ST without a minor L. contract.

That happens when management wants to wait and see what their stuff is like during ST before committing to a MiLB contract

[Brownie19]

let's move on people.

[G-Snarls]

Nope, there have been players in the past who were only invited to ST without a minor L. contract.

That happens when management wants to wait and see what their stuff is like during ST before committing to a MiLB contract

 

I suppose that would be more likely for undrafted players with no track record mostly?

 

I would imagine MLB veterans like Liriano or King Felix would pretty much always have a guaranteed contract of some kind of they wouldn't accept...

[connorp]

let's move on people.

 

Not until we get the terms of the minor league deal. If there was a $10k signing bonus in there I’d like to know

[jerb]

 

Rob Longley

@longleysunsport

 

#Bluejays GM Ross Atkins on spring training plans starting next week: "We're prepared to start spring training on time and prepared and excited to start the season on time." First spring training game is slated for Feb. 27.