BLUE JAYS SIGN Tyler Chatwood

[King]

LFG!!

 

Kenny Ken with the news

[Krylian]

Plan the parade?

[saskjayfan]

well i did say I would be happy if they just signed anyone. They tested my resolve. Trevor Rosenthal..nope...Tyler chatwood!

[Brownie19]

Where are the Shatkin haters now!

[Pendleton]

This is some of the biggest Blue Jays news of the off season

[Abomination]

We sure seem to have a lot of guys who can throw multiple innings. It'll be interesting to see how we decide to use them.

[Carlos Danger]

Glowing review.. Bring him back to the Cubs because he sucks and can be had by cheap. Hopefully our analytics team sees something..

 

https://ontapsportsnet.com/2020/12/09/cubs-offseason-analysis-jed-hoyer-should-bring-back-tyler-chatwood/

 

 

by Brian Mischler December 9, 2020

It’s no secret that Tyler Chatwood’s time with the Chicago Cubs was a disappointment. After Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer signed him to a three-year, $38 million deal in December of 2017, Chatwood slid in as the fifth starter behind Jon Lester, Yu Darvish, Kyle Hendricks, and Jose Quintana. This was presumed to be a lethal Chicago Cubs starting rotation for the next three seasons, but that scenario did not come to fruition.

 

Tyler Chatwood’s Command Issues

Chatwood exhibited severe command issues to the tune of an 8.25 BB/9 in 2018, the worst in MLB. The next worst was 5.29. So, yeah, “severe” is putting it lightly. Chatwood’s ineffectiveness caused Theo Epstein to acquire Cole Hamels at the trade deadline, as Epstein had to shore up the rotation before the postseason. The Cubs were contending for a pennant and could not just sit on their hands and pray that Chatwood would figure it out. After just 3.5 months, Tyler Chatwood was demoted to the bullpen.

 

Tyler Chatwood Cubs

 

Although acquiring Tyler Chatwood was a mistake by Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer in hindsight, the thought process did check out. Epstein and Hoyer likely figured that Chatwood would improve upon his 4.09 ERA on the Colorado Rockies, as he would not have to pitch in altitude every other start. Chatwood always flashed elite stuff but had trouble with command. His 4.08 BB/9, which was sixth-worst in MLB from 2012-2017, exemplifies that fact. The Cubs thought they could mitigate his command issues and tap into his potential, all while giving him the scenery change he needed.

 

Instead, Chatwood racked up a 4.70 ERA in his three seasons on the Cubs. Although that sounds bad enough, it gets worse. Chatwood only started 30 total games in those three seasons. An effective starter racks up that many starts in one season. So, the Cubs effectively paid ~$13 million annually for a middle reliever. Offseason acquisitions just don’t get much worse than that. Signing Tyler Chatwood was one of Theo Epstein’s worst mistakes while running the Cubs, right up there with trading Tommy La Stella.

 

 

Cubs will Target Low-Risk, High-Upside Free Agents

I’m sure at this point, you’re wondering why I’m underscoring how bad Chatwood was on the Cubs while simultaneously advocating that Jed Hoyer should bring him back in 2021. The answer is simple: cost. The Cubs will not add significant payroll this offseason. We all know this. So why not give Chatwood a chance with a low-risk, one-year “prove it” deal? Between his historical command issues, his inability to stay in the starting rotation, and his 2020 injury, organizations won’t offer him anything more than $1-1.5 million annually. Hell, he may only be given a minor-league deal.

 

Not only will Chatwood be cheap, he still has upside. He flashed a nasty new cutter at the beginning of 2020 that directly caused his 0.71 ERA through his first two starts. See for yourself how nasty that cutter was.

 

 

Then, he got knocked around in his third start and was injured shortly after. In a regular, 162-game season, Chatwood would’ve had the chance to prove if those first two starts were indicative of who he truly was in 2020. But the shortened season eliminated that chance. Now, nobody will hold those first two starts in high regard.

 

Instead, organizations will look at Tyler Chatwood’s miserable 2018 and 2019 seasons and think he’s washed up. And that is precisely why he’s a fit for the Cubs. He’s a low-risk, high-upside free-agent target that perfectly aligns with the Cubs’ financial situation. If Chatwood would have been healthy in 2020 and exhibited those strong numbers for 4-6 more starts, he’d likely be out of Jed Hoyer’s price range this winter.

 

 

If There’s One Cubs Pitcher Jed Hoyer Should Bring Back, it’s Chatwood

There have been rumors floating around regarding which pitcher the Cubs should bring back: Jose Quintana, Jon Lester, or Tyler Chatwood. Honestly, the correct answer is fairly obvious. While Quintana is the safest bet due to his durability (besides last season) and consistency over the years, he doesn’t possess the upside Chatwood does. He’ll also be much more expensive.

 

Obviously, Jon Lester is the fan-favorite. However, he is undoubtedly the worst decision of the three. He’s the oldest, has no bullpen flexibility, and has lost life on practically his entire pitch repertoire. And that’s not a knock on Lester. He would likely admit to all these weaknesses himself. Yes, he’s the best free-agent signing in Chicago Cubs history. But making decisions based on past accomplishments and nostalgia is exactly what the Cubs should not do this offseason.

 

The organization needs to move on, and Theo Epstein has positioned the Cubs to do exactly that. Non-tendering Kyle Schwarber and Albert Almora was a step in the right direction. But it doesn’t stop there. Jed Hoyer has to make more moves if the Cubs endeavor to win a very winnable NL Central, assuming a full-fledged teardown is not happening.

 

Unlike Quintana and Lester, Chatwood will be cheap, has upside as an effective starter, and has proven he is a productive reliever as a backup plan. Chatwood is absolutely worth a shot given the Cubs’ financial condition. Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer acquired Jeremy Jeffress last season as a cheap, high-upside free agent. How’d that signing work out for the Cubs?

[G-Snarls]

[glory]

Seems to have consistently great FB/CB spin rate, and as a RP in 2019 was averaging 96 mph. Could have potential as a RP. Hopefully not a rotation option.

[RobinThicc]

Probably a bp piece.

 

3 million with incentives to get it up 5.5m per shi davidi

[L54]

LOL I can’t wait to hear from Jays24 and max silver

[L54]

I actually like Chatwood. He used to get a ton of ground balls and now he strikes guys out. He’s always been intriguing.

 

The Jays are gonna go full Tampa Bay this year. Rolling out openers and long guys out of the pen. Can’t say I hate the idea - nobody asks how they ask how many. Another real starter would be nice though.

[Krylian]

I'd be much happier if our rotation was deep enough that Chatwood ended up being a high leverage BP piece.

[Spanky99]

Glowing review.. Bring him back to the Cubs because he sucks and can be had by cheap. Hopefully our analytics team sees something..

 

That's some random Cub fan blogger, lol

[Spanky99]

Robbie Ray lite.

[Laika]

Tweaked his pitch mix in 2020 and had interesting results:

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/tyler-chatwood-and-strikeouts-have-a-meet-cute/

 

Sleeper signing. Probably better than Taijuan Walker.

 

Nice thing about Chatwood is you can imagine him being a setup RP or a useful SP.

 

Some pretty filthy stuff: https://www.mlb.com/video/search?q=Player+%3D+%5B%22Tyler+Chatwood%22%5D+Order+By+Timestamp+DESC

[Spanky99]

[Laika]

This is how you get good relievers without giving them big stupid multi-year FA deals, by the way.

[saskjayfan]

Tweaked his pitch mix in 2020 and had interesting results:

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/tyler-chatwood-and-strikeouts-have-a-meet-cute/

 

Sleeper signing. Probably better than Taijuan Walker.

 

Nice thing about Chatwood is you can imagine him being a setup RP or a useful SP.

 

Some pretty filthy stuff: https://www.mlb.com/video/search?q=Player+%3D+%5B%22Tyler+Chatwood%22%5D+Order+By+Timestamp+DESC

 

actually, I'm having a real hard time imagining him as a useful starting pitcher. If he finds it in the bullpen, fine. I don't want to see him starting.

[Laika]

actually, I'm having a real hard time imagining him as a useful starting pitcher. If he finds it in the bullpen, fine. I don't want to see him starting.

 

Well you better get your tissues ready because this dude is going to OPEN like ten games this year

[Spanky99]

actually, I'm having a real hard time imagining him as a useful starting pitcher. If he finds it in the bullpen, fine. I don't want to see him starting.

 

He wont start, maybe as an opener, but he'll be utilized.

[43211234]

With Ray, Stripling and Chatwood I think it's clear that there's going to be piggybacking and playing matchups with the rotation next year.

 

3-5.5 is a nice price. He's been pretty good since his disastrous 2018.

Edited January 19, 2021 by 43211234

[DigitalRock]

Assuming he is a bullpen piece.

[max silver]

LOL I can’t wait to hear from Jays24 and max silver

 

I'm waiting with baited breath to see who walks more batters in 2021. There's an epic competition brewing between Chatwood and Ray.

 

From looking at Chatwood's peripherals at first glance it appears as though he may have been the victim of bad luck. He rocked a .400 BABIP, but his EV numbers weren't that bad. Statcast doesn't think he was unlucky though, as they have his xERA only a few points off of his actual ERA. So he might actually be kind of terrible at actually producing outs.

 

Stuff looks top notch though, his spin rates are upper scale stuff.

[connorp]

I saw the Martin Perez and Lester signings and was like, at least the Jays aren’t in on those guys...

[max silver]

I saw the Martin Perez and Lester signings and was like, at least the Jays aren’t in on those guys...

 

I'd much rather the Jays look for diamonds in the rough than sign totally washed up veterans.

[Spanky99]

With Ray, Stripling and Chatwood I think it's clear that there's going to be a piggybacking and playing matchups with the rotation next year.

 

3-5.5 is a nice price. He's been pretty good since his disastrous 2018.

 

Yup, Pearson/Chatwood, Stripling/Ray, etc... I kind of like it.

 

Old-skool styles!

[connorp]

I'd much rather the Jays look for diamonds in the rough than sign totally washed up veterans.

 

You don’t look for diamonds on 1 year deals (or it at least makes age irrelevant). They’re all projected for 5 FIPs, so it’s an entirely fair comparison

[TBJ12]

This has to be the plan. We didn’t really need any more SP depth.

[Spanky99]