Around Baseball 2021

[Jimcanuck]

Why not Jim? You would prob know better than me but as he’s plowing her and she goes unconscious, he’s supposed to all the sudden stop and wait for her to come to?… that doesn’t seem like how it works in those games

 

Holy f*** man, the girl goes unconscious and you think it's Ok for Bauer to assume anal sex is OK. To a psychopath maybe.

[connorp]

Holy f*** man, the girl goes unconscious and you think it's Ok for Bauer to assume anal sex is OK. To a psychopath maybe.

 

Bro, you’re trying to look at it as normal person and not as one of the two crazy sex people involved here. You wouldn’t think it was normal he had regular sex with her when she passed out and I’m telling you it’s fair to say she knew that was part of deal

[Jimcanuck]

Bro, you’re trying to look at it as normal person and not as one of the two crazy sex people involved here. You wouldn’t think it was normal he had regular sex with her when she passed out and I’m telling you it’s fair to say she knew that was part of deal

 

Good luck in life, connor. You need it.

[connorp]

Good luck in life, connor. You need it.

 

That I’m not a limited thinker? In no way am I saying his sexual habits are acceptable for a human.

[connorp]

These are the same questions an ADA is going to face before trying to bring the sexual deviant female before a jury and get 12 people to convict the dude

[Jimcanuck]

These are the same questions an ADA is going to face before trying to bring the sexual deviant female before a jury and get 12 people to convict the dude

 

If a sex partner passes out from rough sex, from alcohol, drugs or whatever, it does not give consent to the other partner to do whatever the f*** that person wants, whether anal, punching, scratching, or whatever.

 

There's no way in hell the law, or any right thinking person, would agree to that. The whole idea of the law is to prevent harm and restore damages. Your thinking is the reverse of that.

 

"sexual deviant female" - no wonder you buy wives over the internet.

[P2F]

 

 

Diamond in the Rough > Across Time and Space

[TheHurl]

I thought that this contract was standard in our community.

 

Chosen safe word:

 

Name/title of dominant in scene:

 

Name/title of submissive during scene:

 

Do you have any health concerns, including STIs, conditions such as asthma or anxiety or current medications?

 

Are there any other concerns? List fears and limits (hard and soft), medical conditions or medications and other information that helps the scene proceed smoothly and safely.

[Jimcanuck]

Logan Gilbert gonna be an ace?

[Laika]

Limiting it to just the anal sex, should that not be specified by partners beforehand (what’s not allowed). I’m obviously not a lawyer but we can establish for a fact that she consented to being choked out, we can clearly infer she was ok with him performing sex acts on her while she was out..so should he need verbal permission to have anal sex? I would think not. Not sure legally

 

This exact scenario was the subject of a Canadian Supreme Court case. The holding is that a person cannot consent to a sex act to be performed while they are unconscious. Basically, once the person becomes incapable of revoking consent at any time, their pre-consent is no longer valid. It's sexual assault, even if the woman literally said you can do X while I am passed out and all the man did was X.

 

https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/7942/index.do

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_JA

 

This case has been criticized. Fair to say it is controversial. Some people say it is bad law and actually limits the sexual autonomy of women. Three judges of the SCC dissented in the case.

[connorp]

If a sex partner passes out from rough sex, from alcohol, drugs or whatever, it does not give consent to the other partner to do whatever the f*** that person wants, whether anal, punching, scratching, or whatever.

 

There's no way in hell the law, or any right thinking person, would agree to that. The whole idea of the law is to prevent harm and restore damages. Your thinking is the reverse of that.

 

"sexual deviant female" - no wonder you buy wives over the internet.

 

Jim she classifies as a sexual deviant. Normal girls don’t get super turned on by being choked to the point of unconsciousness. I know you don’t like this but it’s just the hard truth. I’ve read about how hard it is to prosecute assaults against hookers. Does your heart bleed for them too?

[connorp]

This exact scenario was the subject of a Canadian Supreme Court case. The holding is that a person cannot consent to a sex act to be performed while they are unconscious. Basically, once the person becomes incapable of revoking consent at any time, their pre-consent is no longer valid. It's sexual assault, even if the woman literally said you can do X while I am passed out and all the man did was X.

 

https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/7942/index.do

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_JA

 

This case has been criticized. Fair to say it is controversial. Some people say it is bad law and actually limits the sexual autonomy of women. Three judges of the SCC dissented in the case.

 

Still doesn’t mean an ADA would feel great bringing it to court. I really think Bauer’s celebrity works against him in this case in more ways than one

[Laika]

Still doesn’t mean an ADA would feel great bringing it to court. I really think Bauer’s celebrity works against him in this case in more ways than one

 

It's also not even relevant because that's probably not the law in California.

 

I kind of agree about Bauer's celebrity. Some people were complaining that the only reason he has not been charged is his status, but it could very well be the opposite for all we know, maybe the only reason the case is still open is his celebrity.

[Spanky__99]

^ owns Acuna & Soto in a dynasty league and still finds ways to bitch about his owned players

 

How gauche of him.

[connorp]

It's also not even relevant because that's probably not the law in California.

 

I kind of agree about Bauer's celebrity. Some people were complaining that the only reason he has not been charged is his status, but it could very well be the opposite for all we know, maybe the only reason the case is still open is his celebrity.

 

Strict interpretation of laws would only matter in bench trial anyway. For instance, if the law is a girl can’t consent if she’s intoxicated, say a .10 (which can be few drinks for light girl) a 12 person jury isn’t sending some college kid away to prison for a drunken hookup unless the girl is totally incapacitated. Those kind of cases are notoriously difficult to prosecute, everyone knows that. This girls behavior would get her torn apart

[Jimcanuck]

Jim she classifies as a sexual deviant. Normal girls don’t get super turned on by being choked to the point of unconsciousness. I know you don’t like this but it’s just the hard truth. I’ve read about how hard it is to prosecute assaults against hookers. Does your heart bleed for them too?

 

Nah, that's not sexual deviancy, connor. Stop being a prude. Shortness of breath heightens the orgasm and is relatively common practice.

 

And yes, sex workers deserve the same protection as anyone else.

[connorp]

No such thing as a sexual deviant, connor. Stop being a prude.

 

And yes, sex workers deserve the same protection as anyone else.

 

They should but they don’t, that’s the point here Jim. Love it or hate it, the victim gets judged on their behavior

[Jimcanuck]

They should but they don’t, that’s the point here Jim. Love it or hate it, the victim gets judged on their behavior

 

In the past, less and less these days.

[connorp]

In the past, less and less these days.

 

Defense lawyers can help choose jurors. This girls texts are really hard to digest bro. I think the only way Bauer gets buried is if more come forward

[Brownie19]

This exact scenario was the subject of a Canadian Supreme Court case. The holding is that a person cannot consent to a sex act to be performed while they are unconscious. Basically, once the person becomes incapable of revoking consent at any time, their pre-consent is no longer valid. It's sexual assault, even if the woman literally said you can do X while I am passed out and all the man did was X.

 

https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/7942/index.do

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_JA

 

This case has been criticized. Fair to say it is controversial. Some people say it is bad law and actually limits the sexual autonomy of women. Three judges of the SCC dissented in the case.

 

I assume this is true even if the woman puts it in writing first?

[Grant77]

So the Padres starter Yu Darvish got lit up and they brought in this rookie Daniel Camarena to soak up a few innings. He just hit a grand slam off of Max Scherzer.

[Spanky__99]

So the Padres starter Yu Darvish got lit up and they brought in this rookie Daniel Camarena to soak up a few innings. He just hit a grand slam off of Max Scherzer.

 

That was so awesome, his dad was epic, lol.

[Dick_Pole]

Some guys get off choking women unconscious. Other guys get off trying to appear virtuous on the internet. What Bauer did is violent and potentially criminal and if it's proven in a court of law then I hope he gets a just punishment. But it's really not necessary to have a dick measuring contest to see who thinks Bauer is the biggest piece of s***. No one on here thinks what he did was brilliant and wonderful. This act isn't up for debate. It also wasn't completely unsolicited. It's not like Bauer is at the level of predator to attack random women like this, that we are aware of to this point.

 

There's a mod on here who displayed naked pics of his ex without her permission on the old board and the long time posters here are fine with it. That was before King was born but for the rest of you guys pretending to be anti-misogynist superheroes, reading some of your comments about this situation are on a new level of cringe.

[WryNGinger]

I think any more Bauer discussions should be moved to an off topic thread at this point. It's making this thread unreadable. It is very clear that most of the discussion is just a back-and-forth amongst people that will never agree, thus making discussion useless. Just my take.

[JFD]

Maybe Bauer can make it as a WWE villain now that his MLB career is over.

[Spanky__99]

Some guys get off choking women unconscious. Other guys get off trying to appear virtuous on the internet. What Bauer did is violent and potentially criminal and if it's proven in a court of law then I hope he gets a just punishment. But it's really not necessary to have a dick measuring contest to see who thinks Bauer is the biggest piece of s***. No one on here thinks what he did was brilliant and wonderful. This act isn't up for debate. It also wasn't completely unsolicited. It's not like Bauer is at the level of predator to attack random women like this, that we are aware of to this point.

 

There's a mod on here who displayed naked pics of his ex without her permission on the old board and the long time posters here are fine with it. That was before King was born but for the rest of you guys pretending to be anti-misogynist superheroes, reading some of your comments about this situation are on a new level of cringe.

 

lol

[JFD]

 

This aged well

[connorp]

I think any more Bauer discussions should be moved to an off topic thread at this point. It's making this thread unreadable. It is very clear that most of the discussion is just a back-and-forth amongst people that will never agree, thus making discussion useless. Just my take.

 

Not really OT- prob deserves its own thread on main I guess

[G-Snarls]

Nationals blew an 8-0 lead to the Padres late last with the Padres scoring 9 straight runs to win 9-8

 

Including... get this.... One of the SD relief pitchers, a rookie named Daniel Camarena, hitting a grand slam of Max Scherzer in his second major league plate appearance, his first major league hit, during a 7 run inning

 

That's just incredible

Edited July 9, 2021 by G-Snarls

[G-Snarls]

Logan Gilbert mowed down the Yankees (7 IP, 1H, 0BB, 8K) in a 4-0 Mariners win