Around Baseball 2021

[BTS]

Really not interesting in Wade Miley throwing a no-hitter.

[glory]

4 no hitters now (5 if you count MadBum) in the first week of May, and Manaea has one through 7 tonight.

 

I can only assume the deadening of the baseballs was to make it easier to justify all those changes they want to make (moving the mound back, etc), but when Wade Miley throws a NH, man.

[Scion]

Sean Manea has no hits through 7. Have there ever been two no nos on the same day?

[Abomination]

Sean Manea has no hits through 7. Have there ever been two no nos on the same day?

 

 

I think it's happened twice. There's also been several games in the minors where BOTH teams threw no hitters in the same game.

[connorp]

Holy s*** - that is hard to fathom.

 

Meh. It’s actually not that surprising at all. Griffey was good for 4 WAR from 31 on.

[connorp]

I think it's happened twice. There's also been several games in the minors where BOTH teams threw no hitters in the same game.

 

So the latter examples ended in ties one is to assume?

[Abomination]

So the latter examples ended in ties one is to assume?

 

I would assume some combination of walks, stolen bases, and/or errors. I haven't looked the games up though, so I suppose some weird tie rules could be possible.

[BTS]

Wade Miley has put the final nail in the coffin of the the importance of no-hitters. Some shitbag throws one every week

[connorp]

I would assume some combination of walks, stolen bases, and/or errors. I haven't looked the games up though, so I suppose some weird tie rules could be possible.

 

Yeah that makes sense. That’s what I get for posting before bed

[Laika]

Wade Miley has put the final nail in the coffin of the the importance of no-hitters. Some shitbag throws one every week

 

The 9 inning compete game is basically as rare and impressive as the no hit component these days

[Daniel Labude]

Wade Miley has put the final nail in the coffin of the the importance of no-hitters. Some shitbag throws one every week

 

Completely false on the importance. Just shows how bad hitters are now when pitchers stay on the corners

[Abomination]

Wade Miley has put the final nail in the coffin of the the importance of no-hitters. Some shitbag throws one every week

 

 

It feels like the strike zone is larger this year. That could be playing a role.

[BTS]

Durham Bulls twitter account is absolutely savage

 

[Spanky99]

The Durham Bulls will forever be entrenched in my brain since that immaculate movie.

[King]

 

Is it just me, or has the umpiring been absolutely atrocious this year? I feel like every game I watch has at least one or two blatantly terrible, blown calls.

[Deadpool]

 

Is it just me, or has the umpiring been absolutely atrocious this year? I feel like every game I watch has at least one or two blatantly terrible, blown calls.

 

It's not just you, and it's not just this year.

[glory]

Wade Miley has put the final nail in the coffin of the the importance of no-hitters. Some shitbag throws one every week

 

Yeah when I saw Miley was throwing one, I had no interest in seeing the final out at all, and I typically always like seeing the final outs of no hitters or perfect games. It might have officially jumped the shark with him.

 

As I said above, the league wants to do things to increase BIP like move the mound back + they want robo umps. So they deaden the baseball so that offense around the league resembles the dead ball era and umpires are increasing the size of the strike zone to almost comical levels. My tinfoil hat is firmly in place.

[Spanky99]

lol... Jesus!

 

 

For context... O'Neill and Lindor tussle in the tunnel...

 

[King]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/where-did-the-homers-go/

 

 

This is kind of crazy. They are actively ruining the sport. It's impressive that they got this so wrong.

 

They basically increased the number of strikeouts and made a s*** ton of flyballs turn into outs. That 31% decrease in 95-99 EV/20-24 LA reaching base is shocking.

 

[Laika]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/where-did-the-homers-go/

 

 

This is kind of crazy. They are actively ruining the sport. It's impressive that they got this so wrong.

 

They basically increased the number of strikeouts and made a s*** ton of flyballs turn into outs. That 31% decrease in 95-99 EV/20-24 LA reaching base is shocking.

 

 

Manfred trying to end Cavan Biggio's career?

[Spanky99]

That's nuts, man.

[King]

Manfred trying to end Cavan Biggio's career?

Good point. It looks like he went from being an above average hitter to an avg/below average hitter with one swift change of the ball. Disgusting.

 

I wonder who else was heavily affected by this. Lindor? Gurriel?

 

Edit:

 

I did a quick statcast query. Gurriel has three between 95/99 and 20-24 and all of them were lineouts.

 

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/statcast_search?hfPT=&hfAB=&hfGT=R%7C&hfPR=&hfZ=&stadium=&hfBBL=&hfNewZones=&hfPull=&hfC=&hfSea=2021%7C&hfSit=&player_type=batter&hfOuts=&opponent=&pitcher_throws=&batter_stands=&hfSA=&game_date_gt=&game_date_lt=&hfInfield=&team=&position=&hfOutfield=&hfRO=&home_road=&hfFlag=&hfBBT=&metric_1=api_h_launch_angle&metric_1_gt=20&metric_1_lt=24&metric_2=api_h_launch_speed&metric_2_gt=95&metric_2_lt=99&hfInn=&min_pitches=0&min_results=0&group_by=name&sort_col=pitches&player_event_sort=api_p_release_speed&sort_order=desc&min_pas=0#results

[BTS]

Manfred is handling this like a sim league. Ham-fistedly tweaking the sliders trying to get the desired results and not spending enough time thinking about unintended consequences.

[max silver]

Good point. It looks like he went from being an above average hitter to an avg/below average hitter with one swift change of the ball. Disgusting.

 

I wonder who else was heavily affected by this. Lindor? Gurriel?

 

Edit:

 

I did a quick statcast query. Gurriel has three between 95/99 and 20-24 and all of them were lineouts.

 

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/statcast_search?hfPT=&hfAB=&hfGT=R%7C&hfPR=&hfZ=&stadium=&hfBBL=&hfNewZones=&hfPull=&hfC=&hfSea=2021%7C&hfSit=&player_type=batter&hfOuts=&opponent=&pitcher_throws=&batter_stands=&hfSA=&game_date_gt=&game_date_lt=&hfInfield=&team=&position=&hfOutfield=&hfRO=&home_road=&hfFlag=&hfBBT=&metric_1=api_h_launch_angle&metric_1_gt=20&metric_1_lt=24&metric_2=api_h_launch_speed&metric_2_gt=95&metric_2_lt=99&hfInn=&min_pitches=0&min_results=0&group_by=name&sort_col=pitches&player_event_sort=api_p_release_speed&sort_order=desc&min_pas=0#results

 

Biggio can't really place much blame on Manfred for his less than stellar results in 2021. He attempted to fix what wasn't broken and ended up f***ing up his best asset at the plate, namely his walk rate and high on base percentage. His new "aggressive" approach has him chasing far more pitches out of the strike zone and subsequently walking less and striking out a lot more. He also stopped barreling up baseballs completely, can't blame the new ball for any of this.

[King]

Biggio can't really place much blame on Manfred for his less than stellar results in 2021. He attempted to fix what wasn't broken and ended up f***ing up his best asset at the plate, namely his walk rate and high on base percentage. His new "aggressive" approach has him chasing far more pitches out of the strike zone and subsequently walking less and striking out a lot more. He also stopped barreling up baseballs completely, can't blame the new ball for any of this.

He has a 43 wRC+ on flyballs this year and had a 129 wRC+ on flyballs last year. I dunno. I don't think it's a stretch to say that his flyballs that were previously homers are now turning into outs is a massive problem. The chase rate looks like a problem too. They can co-exist, Max.

[max silver]

He has a 43 wRC+ on flyballs this year and had a 129 wRC+ on flyballs last year. I dunno. I don't think it's a stretch to say that his flyballs that were previously homers are now turning into outs is a massive problem. The chase rate looks like a problem too. They can co-exist, Max.

 

His expected stats basically line up with his actual stats. XWOBA and WOBA are within 14 points of each other, xHR is 1.5 vs actual of 2, and he's produced all of 1 barrel up to this point. He simply hasn't produced the quality of contact that would allow for his production to be where it was previously. He's looked much better at the plate recently, but his recent hits are basically all singles as he's been punching balls to left field a lot lately.

[King]

His expected stats basically line up with his actual stats. XWOBA and WOBA are within 14 points of each other, xHR is 1.5 vs actual of 2, and he's produced all of 1 barrel up to this point. He simply hasn't produced the quality of contact that would allow for his production to be where it was previously. He's looked much better at the plate recently, but his recent hits are basically all singles as he's been punching balls to left field a lot lately.

Fair enough. I just don't think you can complete write off the ball change for affecting his output. The truth is probably a culmination of all these things affecting his hitting. I agree with what you are saying and think it has merit.

[Daniel Labude]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/where-did-the-homers-go/

 

 

This is kind of crazy. They are actively ruining the sport. It's impressive that they got this so wrong.

 

They basically increased the number of strikeouts and made a s*** ton of flyballs turn into outs. That 31% decrease in 95-99 EV/20-24 LA reaching base is shocking.

 

 

Let's see the numbers in the summer

[Ryu In My House]

I didn't realize this until just now, but Eric Thames and Justin Smoak are both on the same Japanese ball team...both seem to be having a good season out east.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/team.cgi?id=35df3a92

[Orgfiller]

Max Scherzer sets the new Yankee Stadium record with 14 strikeouts, achieved in 7 innings. He'll be coming back out for the 8th. Where's that guy that said he was done after one poor outing?