GDT: Blue Jays @. Red Sox (Game 1/3)

[Stangstag]

So you want a hit and run with a guy who, again, swings and misses a bunch? You don't see the potential downside to that?

 

Not a hit and run... steal second to prevent the double play. They can’t really throw the second to prevent the steal because Alford would take home and tie the game...

[EdwinsParrot]

can this game get any more annoying

[Stangstag]

If McKinney ran 3-1 and Grichuk swings and misses...which he does a lot McKinney is DOA. Now 2 out and harder to score tying run. I get your point but I don't like having McKinney running there. Granted it didn't work out not sending him.

 

You did not get my point. I would sacrifice Mckinney getting thrown out at second in order to let Alford score and tie the game. Maybe that’s a bad move?? Idk it felt like a no brainer especially after they were in the same situation in Washington and it ended in a double play

[Orgfiller]

Ball that looks like a no-doubter, line drive, line drive. Outcome: man on first, two outs. f*** everything about this game

[Grant77]

Scoring just 3 runs against the worst pitching in baseball is the ultimate embarrassment. They have got to get it together or make some serious changes soon, truly awful.

[4thOFan]

Scoring just 3 runs against the worst pitching in baseball is the ultimate embarrassment. They have got to get it together or make some serious changes soon, truly awful.

 

lol

[saskjayfan]

dear charlie. Don't bat Teoscar 8th tomorrow. That is all for now.

[saskjayfan]

lol

 

It's not like the pitching was good. We gifted 3 outs on the base paths, hit into 4 double plays and Verdugo took away a homer. This was a very frustrating game.

[Jonn]

Damn terrible night for sports. Blue Jays lose, Raptors get blown out, and Leaves win. Things you hate to see. It.

[Olerud363]

It's not like the pitching was good. We gifted 3 outs on the base paths, hit into 4 double plays and Verdugo took away a homer. This was a very frustrating game.

 

Good approach tonight, do that every night without the base running mistakes and bad luck and they'll score some runs.

 

That being said watch them score 2 runs tomorrow on solo homers and swing wildly and ground out the rest of the time.. hopefully not...

[Laika]

Toronto has serious issues if they can barely score against that human centipede of garbage pitchers. Terrible

[TheDragon]

the good ol' days

 

[Grant77]

the good ol' days

 

 

He could hit cleanup with the way our lineup is.

[5ToolPhenom]

So it begs the question. How much more rope will Shapiro and Atkins get?

 

It'll be a pretty bad look if they fail to make the expanded playoffs after all of the additions

[WILLIEUPSHAW]

Toronto has serious issues if they can barely score against that human centipede of garbage pitchers. Terrible

 

They did score 2 against Weber over 3 ip. The Boston BP is not that bad, although Barnes has been struggling, including giving up 2 walks to the Jays in the 8th. The inability to execute and score at least one run there is really pathetic. What a waste of a great effort by Alford stealing 2 bases there.

 

I really wanted to like Grichuk, but I think I am out of patience with this guy. Watching a 3-1 FB right down the pipe go by in that spot was inexusable. Bench the f***er and give Alford a shot to play.

[DigitalRock]

I am amazed how bad and disappointing Montoyo has been. This team is clearly still a ways away. Vlad needs to start hitting.

[Spanky99]

I am amazed how bad and disappointing Montoyo has been. This team is clearly still a ways away. Vlad needs to start hitting.

 

[Spanky99]

So it begs the question. How much more rope will Shapiro and Atkins get?

 

It'll be a pretty bad look if they fail to make the expanded playoffs after all of the additions

 

This is year 2 into their rebuild man???

[Jonn]

 

I was waiting for you to break out this gif. Baseball season is officially back baby!

[Spanky99]

lol... @ you people 10 games in, lol

[Spanky99]

I was waiting for you to break out this gif. Baseball season is officially back baby!

 

I only use it for the fella intended.

[Boxcar]

So it begs the question. How much more rope will Shapiro and Atkins get?

 

It'll be a pretty bad look if they fail to make the expanded playoffs after all of the additions

 

Does it beg the question? I don't think it does. What would you have done differently?

[BlueRocky]

So it begs the question. How much more rope will Shapiro and Atkins get?

 

It'll be a pretty bad look if they fail to make the expanded playoffs after all of the additions

 

I'm not sure they predicted a world pandemic and 60 game season with expanded playoffs when Charlie was hired.

We are at minimum one year away from being a real .500 club imo, the kids need more seasoning under their belt and the team still has payroll to make FA splashes.

[Spanky99]

Does it beg the question? I don't think it does. What would you have done differently?

 

Juzt searching for controversy, lol.

[Grant77]

Does it beg the question? I don't think it does. What would you have done differently?

 

Kept Gibbons

[Olerud363]

Toronto has serious issues if they can barely score against that human centipede of garbage pitchers. Terrible

 

This is hopefully a temporary problem due to low sample size. If it is not then it is a long term problem and that is not good.

 

If the latter what do you do about it?? Every time the development question comes up half the people say development is fine because we developed Jansen (still part of the hitting problem) and Biggio... and prospects like Groshans who played 30 games the last 2 years.

 

So we could make a change with coaching and development staff, but people don't seem to think that will make a difference.

 

They still only have 2 choices, either develop these guys or start acquiring guys that get on base. I guess they can do a bit of both, develop everyone not named Randall, and stop acquiring Randalls, get guys that get on base, which is probably harder then trading for Randall.

[Deadpool]

8 hits and 6 walks is usually more than enough to win that game. The issue wasn't so much the offence (every starter but LGJ and Janssen was on base at least once), it was getting that offence at the optimal time. Teo batting 8th backfired, as it OBVIOUSLY would, not running McKinney w/ Alford on Third (either there's no throw and the double play is taken away, or Alford scores on the throw easily) and some truly bone headed base running was the issue. Hitting into 4 double plays didn't do the team any favours either. Also, walking 9 of their guys is just a thing that cannot happen.

 

Vladdy had a great game at the plate (we won't speak of the running or fielding), the bullpen has been a bright spot, Biggio had a GREAT game, and Teo had another 2 hit game w/ a double for good measure.

 

Of note: Teo's already got half his WAR total from last season.

[BigCecil]

8 hits and 6 walks is usually more than enough to win that game. The issue wasn't so much the offence (every starter but LGJ and Janssen was on base at least once), it was getting that offence at the optimal time. Teo batting 8th backfired, as it OBVIOUSLY would, not running McKinney w/ Alford on Third (either there's no throw and the double play is taken away, or Alford scores on the throw easily) and some truly bone headed base running was the issue. Hitting into 4 double plays didn't do the team any favours either. Also, walking 9 of their guys is just a thing that cannot happen.

 

Vladdy had a great game at the plate (we won't speak of the running or fielding), the bullpen has been a bright spot, Biggio had a GREAT game, and Teo had another 2 hit game w/ a double for good measure.

 

Of note: Teo's already got half his WAR total from last season.

 

Hmm. Agree with all this although I don't think its a given if they throw down Alford scores. As likely BoSox are looking for that and 2B breaks to ball on throw going home and its bang bang play. All it takes is a shallow fly ball to tie with Alford on 3B and one out, and he bet on Grichuk delivering. It didn't work out with the DP lol but I have a lot bigger complaints about Buntoyo than that decision.

[Deadpool]

Hmm. Agree with all this although I don't think its a given if they throw down Alford scores. As likely BoSox are looking for that and 2B breaks to ball on throw going home and its bang bang play. All it takes is a shallow fly ball to tie with Alford on 3B and one out, and he bet on Grichuk delivering. It didn't work out with the DP lol but I have a lot bigger complaints about Buntoyo than that decision.

 

I think you're vastly underrating just how fast Alford is. And I honestly think the more likely outcome would be no throw to second on that because of just how fast Alford is. For a game with as many ill advised base running moves as last night, you'd think you could take a risk on something like that that was much more likely to succeed.

[BigCecil]

I think you're vastly underrating just how fast Alford is. And I honestly think the more likely outcome would be no throw to second on that because of just how fast Alford is. For a game with as many ill advised base running moves as last night, you'd think you could take a risk on something like that that was much more likely to succeed.

 

No, I know he is very fast. Ya, your guys point is fair. Calculated risk. You guys are probably right its more likely he ties game more I think about it. I would have been fine with the call but im also not pissed off they gave Grichuk a chance to hit a shallow FB.