Vlad moving to 1B

[King]

 

Thank God

[Boxcar]

Final f***ing ly

[AdamGreenwood]

 

Thank God

 

Who could have predicted that?

[BlueRocky]

This makes a lot of sense.

[P2F]

YES!

 

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[Pendleton]

Very good news

[glory]

Draft Martin, move Vlad to 1B. Man things are looking bright right now.

 

Improves the team instantly without a single change to the roster.

[Bobthe4th]

Hopefully this doesn’t upset Vlad as he’s always said he wanted to stay at 3rd. Got to assume he doesn’t mind, otherwise he’d have tried harder to lose weight! The front office warned him this would happen.

 

Fingers crossed he can now concentrate on what he’s good at.

[jaysguy44]

Perfect, paves the way for Groshans/Martin

[Brownie19]

His inability to get in shape irks me (more than it probably should); however, I can't help but remember how Edwin took off as a hitter almost immediately after moving off 3rd base. Who knows how much the stress of trying to 'handle' a position that you're below average at effects a player, but it can't hurt.

[Maahfaace]

It's funny that they made the move after watching him for a few days struggle to lug his frame around (should have conceded defeat after 3rd game last year). He definitely packed on the lbs during the covid break.

[BTS]

Thank f***ing Christ

[Brownie19]

This allows us to get more value out of Shaw, who's above average defensively. I'm really hopeful he can return back to his 2017-2018 form and bridge the gap until Groshans/Martin are ready.

[DigitalRock]

This is the right move, I think Playing 3rd last year and struggling effected his offense. I think it was eye opening for him and that's why now he agrees with 1b. Disappointing he still doesn't seem in great shape but not as big a deal at first.

[AintNoThang]

Is he athletic enough to play first?

[RobinThicc]

Lol probably showed up fat as f*** and now they're moving him off his preferred position as punishment. Definitely the right move, he was terrible at 3b.

[glory]

Hopefully this doesn’t upset Vlad as he’s always said he wanted to stay at 3rd. Got to assume he doesn’t mind, otherwise he’d have tried harder to lose weight! The front office warned him this would happen.

 

Fingers crossed he can now concentrate on what he’s good at.

 

The Jays targeted Moose in the off season and ended up with Moose lite in Shaw. They were definitely planning this in the background and it probably would have happened mid season 2020 had the season started as normal. I like it. Vlad clearly doesn't care about his conditioning or weight. Put him at 1B/DH and let him mash for as long as his body will hold up. Removing the stress of playing a demanding defensive position will probably help his bat.

[metafour]

I know everyone wants him to "get in shape", but if you look at those photos of him as a kid and analyze his overall physical frame as an adult: what you see is what you're going to get. Dude is just naturally going to be the shape that you see, period. His ass and hips are massive. He actually carries his weight pretty well (which is why he's still able to show some athleticism), but the idea that he's going to "diet" his way down to some ripped physique is prosperous. Genetic predisposition and skeletal structure are very much a real thing.

[L54]

I know everyone wants him to "get in shape", but if you look at those photos of him as a kid and analyze his overall physical frame as an adult: what you see is what you're going to get. Dude is just naturally going to be the shape that you see, period. His ass and hips are massive. He actually carries his weight pretty well (which is why he's still able to show some athleticism), but the idea that he's going to "diet" his way down to some ripped physique is prosperous. Genetic predisposition and skeletal structure are very much a real thing.

 

Thank you. I came to say the exact same thing. There were guys ripping him in the guess Vlad's weight thread too when the reality is none of us have any insight to what sort of improvements he made physically. He's always going to be large, his ass is huge, hips are wide and he's a barrel up top. Anyone who thought he was going to look like a different human coming into camp had expectations that were unreasonable.

[Krylian]

To those that kept questioning why we're moving Vladdy to 1B already...give him time to improve and get in shape....well, there you have it.

[BlueRocky]

Vlad clearly doesn't care about his conditioning or weight.

 

He came up as a 20 year old rookie @ 270 lbs. He put in effort in the offseason and was measured @250 lbs. An effort was made. We have no idea what he weights now after quarantine. So these kind of assumptions are not fair in my opinion. I’m not calling you out specifically but there’s a lot of people being so uptight about his size.

 

Vlad moving to 1B was inevitable and it’s fine. Miggy and Edwin did and a lot of other star players thrived after moving across the diamond.

 

So can people stop fat shaming him and just let him focus on being a great offensive player? The Vladdy weight watch club can rest in peace now.

[Carlos Danger]

If you want an idea how Vlad's career will go, just look at Miggy and Fielder (jr). He will hit well, but next will come the injuries...... I am more hyped on Bichette, Biggio and Martin to be honest.

[BlueRocky]

If you want an idea how Vlad's career will go, just look at Miggy and Fielder (jr). He will hit well, but next will come the injuries...... I am more hyped on Bichette, Biggio and Martin to be honest.

 

Miggy is 37 and still playing. He has 70.6 carrer fWAR and a triple crown winner, 2 x MVP, 4x batting champion, 7 x silver slugger, 11x All Star.

 

If Vlad is anywhere near that I am thrilled.

[Boxcar]

Is he athletic enough to play first?

 

No but at least it will be less detrimental.

 

He's basically the new Prince Fielder.

[Boxcar]

Miggy is 37 and still playing. He has 70.6 carrer fWAR and a triple crown winner, 2 x MVP, 4x batting champion, 7 x silver slugger, 11x All Star.

 

If Vlad is anywhere near that I am thrilled.

 

I was gonna say, holy s*** @ the concept of being disappointed if Vlad follows Miggy's career path, lol. Becoming him should be the dream of every fat/lazy/big boned but not fat at all player.

 

Autocorrect suxxxx

[glory]

He came up as a 20 year old rookie @ 270 lbs. He put in effort in the offseason and was measured @250 lbs. An effort was made. We have no idea what he weights now after quarantine. So these kind of assumptions are not fair in my opinion. I’m not calling you out specifically but there’s a lot of people being so uptight about his size.

 

Vlad moving to 1B was inevitable and it’s fine. Miggy and Edwin did and a lot of other star players thrived after moving across the diamond.

 

So can people stop fat shaming him and just let him focus on being a great offensive player? The Vladdy weight watch club can rest in peace now.

 

I think you are responding to me but directing your post to others because I've never "fat shamed" Vlad. I'm calling it what it is. How many times do you see a pro athlete have this much issues with weight at a young age suddenly turn it around from a conditioning standpoint, especially in baseball? If anything, it's probably going to get worse as he ages both due to genetics and effort. No one is expecting him to come to camp looking like Mike Trout, but you can have his body type and still make the best out of it. He's not there and has shown very little indication that he'll get there. Doesn't mean he won't have a great career. If anything, moving him to 1B/DH is probably going to make him better sooner, but let's not act like his weight isn't going to be a long term issue. He's already had injury issues the past couple of years. It's something to keep an eye on.

[BlueRocky]

Yes I was addressing the Vladdy weight watch club.

 

Injuries will be a concern, but I think the coaches will continue to work with him to get in shape. He’s too important to this team.

 

I don't believe for a second that Vladdy doesn't care about his own conditioning or weight, he wants to be a great player.

[Dick_Pole]

Would be funny if Shaw's very public lack of enthusiasm about border crossing is what helped spark this decision. Might be planning to sit the year out. Though Shaw makes the best candidate for making the switch across the diamond so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

[glory]

Yes I was addressing the Vladdy weight watch club.

 

Injuries will be a concern, but I think the coaches will continue to work with him to get in shape. He’s too important to this team.

 

I don't believe for a second that Vladdy doesn't care about his own conditioning or weight, he wants to be a great player.

 

I have no doubt Vlad wants to be a great player. I just don't think being in his best shape is high on his priority list. He's still young enough to change his ways if a light bulb goes off in his head in the next few years, but that becomes less and less likely as he gets more pro years under his belt and we see no significant change.

[glory]

Would be funny if Shaw's very public lack of enthusiasm about border crossing is what helped spark this decision. Might be planning to sit the year out. Though Shaw makes the best candidate for making the switch across the diamond so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

 

Yeah I would think Shaw is the one who made it easier to push Vlad to 1B/DH. If Shaw sits out, then we're probably stuck watching Drury/Panik at 3B all season.