Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Yeah, to get upset at the Washington name change you'd have to be a real piece of s***. Can I take a moment to talk about how awful Bob is as a poster and human being? Was this necessary? Some people just get attached to their team. To judge people you don't even know makes you a real piece of s*** in my books but I think Bob has a monopoly on being correct since he blocks anyone who challenges his narrative.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 It won't take along for Cleveland to change their name. They've already been drifting that way in their branding. I'd say its probably a good thing overall, although I do agree with Boxy on the population its 'effecting' really not giving a s***. 90%+ of the Chief Wahoo hats I see are native guys. It'll be really interesting to see how much pressure the Braves get. To me that's not that different than a team calling themselves the Knights or the Gladiators, but the mob needs something to be outraged about. Both the Braves and Blackhawks have no plans on changing their name, I believe the Braves might be getting rid of that annoying Tomahawk chop though.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Both the Braves and Blackhawks have no plans on changing their name, I believe the Braves might be getting rid of that annoying Tomahawk chop though. What about the Chiefs?
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 What about the Chiefs? I haven't heard anything from them, I doubt it, but who knows.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Just rename all teams after animals so nobody gets offended
BlueBaller Verified Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 There's going to be a tsunami of name changes all throughout sports. There will be a list of approved names to be chosen from, such as The Diversity, The Inclusion, The Equality.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Just rename all teams after animals so nobody gets offended The Vegan's will take offence.
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Can I take a moment to talk about how awful Bob is as a poster and human being? Was this necessary? Some people just get attached to their team. To judge people you don't even know makes you a real piece of s*** in my books but I think Bob has a monopoly on being correct since he blocks anyone who challenges his narrative. No, you can't. This is the kind of post we're trying to eliminate.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 For me, I liked the Redskins colours and uniform, so I'm less excited about that rebranding. The burgundy and yellow combination is pretty unique. It would in a sense be like if Oakland relocated and changed their name and colours. I don't really think people in Washington DC are racists and no one used the team name to incite hatred, but it is probably the most insensitive out of the Native American names (Blackhawks, Indians, Braves) so probably should be changed even if none of the natives care. I am rooting for big changes to Cleveland, though. Their kits are putrid. Call them the Spiders because spiders are cool af and give them some unique new threads. I am 100% pro Cleveland Spiders. We need more invertebrates represented in team names! (Next up: The Scorpions!)
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Would the Cleveland Spiders keep the blue and red threads to mimic the Spiderman colours?
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 I've heard the Braves, Chiefs, Indians, etc. aren't considered offensive because it's not a slur. Redskin is defined as a slur in contemporary dictionaries.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Rebranding has nothing to do with the name itself or its connotations, but the effect on the business / customer base. If Washington's NFL franchise thinks they will make more money (e.g., sell more jerseys) in this day and age by rebranding, so be it.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 For me, I liked the Redskins colours and uniform, so I'm less excited about that rebranding. The burgundy and yellow combination is pretty unique. Have they indicated they will change the colours? I agree with you - I'd like to see them keep the colour scheme.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Both the Braves and Blackhawks have no plans on changing their name, I believe the Braves might be getting rid of that annoying Tomahawk chop though. Do you think the fans will stop it though?
BlueRocky Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 I don’t see it stopping. It’s borderline annoying when watching the Braves at home, but their fans love it.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 I don’t see it stopping. It’s borderline annoying when watching the Braves at home, but their fans love it. I don't have a problem with it (have native's complained it offends them?). Baseball needs everything it can to engage the fans in the seats.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 There's going to be a tsunami of name changes all throughout sports. There will be a list of approved names to be chosen from, such as The Diversity, The Inclusion, The Equality. The Black Lives Matters
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 No, you can't. This is the kind of post we're trying to eliminate. So he has carte blanche to call everyone who disagrees with him a piece of s***? Seems a bit unfair.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Rebranding has nothing to do with the name itself or its connotations, but the effect on the business / customer base. If Washington's NFL franchise thinks they will make more money (e.g., sell more jerseys) in this day and age by rebranding, so be it. Any rebranding is always an opportunity to make more money. Let's see how fast Amazon and eBay jump on this and disallow Redskins memorabilia to sell at inflated prices on their platforms.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 I've heard the Braves, Chiefs, Indians, etc. aren't considered offensive because it's not a slur. Redskin is defined as a slur in contemporary dictionaries. Yeah, I mean, I'm not squeamish about these kinds of things generally (I don't find any of the others bad) but I agree that Redskin comes off as a slur and should be changed. I mean, it's kind of a lame thing for your team to be named after, anyway.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Rebranding has nothing to do with the name itself or its connotations, but the effect on the business / customer base. If Washington's NFL franchise thinks they will make more money (e.g., sell more jerseys) in this day and age by rebranding, so be it. Nah, I think a lot of corporations are lead by cowards. Even Roger Goodell was forced into a hostage statement. The mob is achieving success because everyone is just bending to their demands.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Yes. I take no issue with the change. I take issue with how it's being done. The cancel culture mob literally had to back Washington's ownership and Goodale into a corner before they relented. This change should have been made voluntarily decades ago.
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 So he has carte blanche to call everyone who disagrees with him a piece of s***? Seems a bit unfair. His comment was stupid and unproductive, but it wasn’t directed at anyone in particular. If you wanted to respond to it you could have (and later did) by pointing out why some fans might be legitimately upset, and not by calling him a terrible poster and person or whatever it was.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Nah, I think a lot of corporations are lead by cowards. Even Roger Goodell was forced into a hostage statement. The mob is achieving success because everyone is just bending to their demands. Every one of your sentences is incorrect, sorry. Based on what you have written, you probably think the Civil Rights Act was Congress bending to the demands of MLK et al. It wasn't, it was a response to changing public opinion. As are the current spate of changes.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Yes. I take no issue with the change. I take issue with how it's being done. The cancel culture mob literally had to back Washington's ownership and Goodale into a corner before they relented. This change should have been made voluntarily decades ago. This! It will always be about money and power. It took a hit to the pocketbook. I always wanted a player to be the first one to say "I won't play for them"...but that hasn't exactly done well for the careers of players in the past. Now it is time for FedEx and Nike to step up and deal with the real issues.
BlueRocky Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Edited July 13, 2020 by BlueRocky
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Every one of your sentences is incorrect, sorry. Based on what you have written, you probably think the Civil Rights Act was Congress bending to the demands of MLK et al. It wasn't, it was a response to changing public opinion. As are the current spate of changes. I'm not getting into a back and forth but it's pretty classic for the unpopular but loud minority to think they represent the interests of most people. People are afraid to oppose the mob because they could lose their job.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 His comment was stupid and unproductive, but it wasn’t directed at anyone in particular. If you wanted to respond to it you could have (and later did) by pointing out why some fans might be legitimately upset, and not by calling him a terrible poster and person or whatever it was. Ok, fair enough
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