Around Baseball 2020

[Dick_Pole]

79 years ago today, Joe DiMaggio went 1-for-4 with an RBI single, starting his historic 56-game hitting streak. It's the longest streak ever, 12 games better than any other since. And considering the way the game has changed in the decades since, it might just be the most unbreakable record in baseball.

 

 

People like to use the romanticized records as examples of baseball's most unbreakable record. I had the same issue chatting on another board with someone who said Nolan Ryan's seven no-hitters was the most unbreakable record. Hogwash. Some freak could come along and break either of those in two months.

 

Grant is right, complete games are clearly among the most unbreakable records given how baseball has changed. Career, season. Doesn't matter what era you use. Far better example than DiMaggio's hit streak.

 

But the most unbreakable record that I can think of is Fernando Tatis' two grand slams in an inning. The record could be tied *relatively easily* but will never be broken. Never mind the astronomical odds of coming up in three straight plate appearances with the bases loaded and hitting a home run in all three. But in the entire history of the MLB, there has been just one occurence where at least 22 batters have hit in an inning.

 

You should apologize to the board for even putting forth such a ridiculous notion that DiMaggio's record is the most unbreakable in baseball. It's probably one of the more likely ones to be broken to be honest.

[Boxcar]

People like to use the romanticized records as examples of baseball's most unbreakable record. I had the same issue chatting on another board with someone who said Nolan Ryan's seven no-hitters was the most unbreakable record. Hogwash. Some freak could come along and break either of those in two months.

 

Grant is right, complete games are clearly among the most unbreakable records given how baseball has changed. Career, season. Doesn't matter what era you use. Far better example than DiMaggio's hit streak.

 

But the most unbreakable record that I can think of is Fernando Tatis' two grand slams in an inning. The record could be tied *relatively easily* but will never be broken. Never mind the astronomical odds of coming up in three straight plate appearances with the bases loaded and hitting a home run in all three. But in the entire history of the MLB, there has been just one occurence where at least 22 batters have hit in an inning.

 

You should apologize to the board for even putting forth such a ridiculous notion that DiMaggio's record is the most unbreakable in baseball. It's probably one of the more likely ones to be broken to be honest.

 

I could have sworn that A-Rod hit two grand slams in an inning

[Grant77]

The craziest thing I remember about the Tatis slams is that they were both off of the same pitcher. He's lucky he didn't get drop kicked.

[Deadpool]

People like to use the romanticized records as examples of baseball's most unbreakable record. I had the same issue chatting on another board with someone who said Nolan Ryan's seven no-hitters was the most unbreakable record. Hogwash. Some freak could come along and break either of those in two months.

 

Grant is right, complete games are clearly among the most unbreakable records given how baseball has changed. Career, season. Doesn't matter what era you use. Far better example than DiMaggio's hit streak.

 

But the most unbreakable record that I can think of is Fernando Tatis' two grand slams in an inning. The record could be tied *relatively easily* but will never be broken. Never mind the astronomical odds of coming up in three straight plate appearances with the bases loaded and hitting a home run in all three. But in the entire history of the MLB, there has been just one occurence where at least 22 batters have hit in an inning.

 

You should apologize to the board for even putting forth such a ridiculous notion that DiMaggio's record is the most unbreakable in baseball. It's probably one of the more likely ones to be broken to be honest.

 

That was the exact record that sprang to mind (and the co-record of 8 RsBI in an inning). That would be virtually impossible to break.

[glory]

 

Yelich talking about Bonds helping his swing.

[Captain Adama]

 

Yelich talking about Bonds helping his swing.

 

Jomboy Media is a great YT channel. His reviews are pretty entertaining.

[BTS]

Jomboy Media is a great YT channel. His reviews are pretty entertaining.

 

JomBoy is the best in the business at breaking down bench clearing brawls

[Beans]

People like to use the romanticized records as examples of baseball's most unbreakable record. I had the same issue chatting on another board with someone who said Nolan Ryan's seven no-hitters was the most unbreakable record. Hogwash. Some freak could come along and break either of those in two months.

 

Grant is right, complete games are clearly among the most unbreakable records given how baseball has changed. Career, season. Doesn't matter what era you use. Far better example than DiMaggio's hit streak.

 

But the most unbreakable record that I can think of is Fernando Tatis' two grand slams in an inning. The record could be tied *relatively easily* but will never be broken. Never mind the astronomical odds of coming up in three straight plate appearances with the bases loaded and hitting a home run in all three. But in the entire history of the MLB, there has been just one occurence where at least 22 batters have hit in an inning.

 

You should apologize to the board for even putting forth such a ridiculous notion that DiMaggio's record is the most unbreakable in baseball. It's probably one of the more likely ones to be broken to be honest.

 

I said it might just be the most unbreakable, and I referenced Tatis' 2 Grand Slams last week in a post about Kerry Wood's 20-K game, so I'm aware how rare a feat it is. I was thinking more of season records than game records. Obviously, 300+ IP/30-something Complete Games would be the most unbreakable going forward, yah, but it has been done many, many times in the live-ball era, as recently as 1980 for 300 IP and 1975 for 30 CGs, whereas the 56-game hitting streak stands alone (the two other longest hitting streaks in the past 100 years are 44 and 40—not close).

 

My post, however, was more of a "today in baseball history," and the unbreakable record part was merely the coda. The point wasn't to make a statement on what the most unbreakable record in baseball is, but if it were, I probably would have picked Ripken's 2,632 consecutive games (Gehrig is second, with 500 games fewer, and then everyone else is way behind).

 

And, hey, I'll apologize to you for calling you a 'right-wing JimCanuck' last month, because it's clear your bitter self-seriousness is more like a right-wing Max Silver

Edited May 17, 2020 by Beans

[Spanky__99]

Starling Marte's wife died yesterday of a heart attack, just 31 years old, pretty tragic. RIP... that poor family.

 

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/starling-marte-baseball-star-wife-dies-heart-attack-042209089.html

 

[Carlos Danger]

Starling Marte's wife died yesterday of a heart attack, just 31 years old, pretty tragic. RIP... that poor family.

 

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/starling-marte-baseball-star-wife-dies-heart-attack-042209089.html

 

 

Wow, extremely sad... I couldn't even imagine. A woman having a heart attack at 31 yrs old is extremely rare I think.. Poor guy/family..

[connorp]

Wow, extremely sad... I couldn't even imagine. A woman having a heart attack at 31 yrs old is extremely rare I think.. Poor guy/family..

 

So rare, I imagine natural causes wouldn’t be the most likely explanation.. but could be I guess

[Boxcar]

So rare, I imagine natural causes wouldn’t be the most likely explanation.. but could be I guess

 

Theories, connorpee?

[connorp]

Theories, connorpee?

 

Just saying cocktail of drugs for instance would be the more likely explanation but of course sometimes it really is a rare heart defect

 

I had a friend that died at 21 from a heart attack that was a combo of coke, roids, and other stuff

[Brownie19]

 

never seen that before...

 

Edit - and here's a pretty cool science video of them hitting a ball 696 ft (skip to about the 13 minute mark if you want to skip all the fails).

 

Edited May 28, 2020 by Brownie19

[Jimcanuck]

Just saying cocktail of drugs for instance would be the more likely explanation but of course sometimes it really is a rare heart defect

 

I had a friend that died at 21 from a heart attack that was a combo of coke, roids, and other stuff

 

Drugs seems to be your go-to everytime. Do you use drugs, connorpee?

[P2F]

Drugs seems to be your go-to everytime. Do you use drugs, connorpee?

 

[connorp]

Drugs seems to be your go-to everytime. Do you use drugs, connorpee?

 

If an otherwise healthy 30yo dies of a heart attack, I’d wager it’s statistically more likely it was from drugs rather than some rare undetected heart defect. Though the latter does happen of course

 

And no, I don’t do drugs. I was hooked on “e” all through my college years and it did a number on my brain. If I could take it back, I would. I did love coke too but it’s an expensive habit. I went through a rough patch like 7 years ago or something and had a nice little coke run to get me through but that was last time.

[connorp]

I should mention that time 7 years ago I didn’t have much in the way of a connection so I was getting 3rd rate stuff. Good thing because if it was good it would’ve been harder to give up lol

[Spanky__99]

lol... C-poop!

[Jimcanuck]

If an otherwise healthy 30yo dies of a heart attack, I’d wager it’s statistically more likely it was from drugs rather than some rare undetected heart defect. Though the latter does happen of course

 

And no, I don’t do drugs. I was hooked on “e” all through my college years and it did a number on my brain. If I could take it back, I would. I did love coke too but it’s an expensive habit. I went through a rough patch like 7 years ago or something and had a nice little coke run to get me through but that was last time.

 

This says the number of young heart attack patients using drugs is a relatively small percentage, probably not much higher than the background drug use rate of the general population.

 

https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20190307/heart-attacks-striking-more-young-adults

 

With your history it makes sense that you would attribute premature deaths to drug use, with no evidence.

[connorp]

This says the number of young heart attack patients using drugs is a relatively small percentage, probably not much higher than the background drug use rate of the general population.

 

https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20190307/heart-attacks-striking-more-young-adults

 

With your history it makes sense that you would attribute premature deaths to drug use, with no evidence.

 

Jim, I’m always open to being educated on any subject. Especially one like this where my thoughts aren’t based on facts. However, I actually critique articles I read when trying to form an opinion. In this case your poll is based on 2000 patients under 50 (with absolutely no breakdown of age groups)! That had heart attacks. Going from 30-50 is a pretty big difference Jim and nothing is given in terms of specifics to justify your conclusions on the most likely cause when a 30yo dies from a heart attack. If you care enough to look it up other places, I’ll be happy to read it

[connorp]

Even from 30 to 40 I feel much different physically even though my exercise routine has been fairly consistent over the years and no injuries

[Jimcanuck]

Jim, I’m always open to being educated on any subject. Especially one like this where my thoughts aren’t based on facts. However, I actually critique articles I read when trying to form an opinion. In this case your poll is based on 2000 patients under 50 (with absolutely no breakdown of age groups)! That had heart attacks. Going from 30-50 is a pretty big difference Jim and nothing is given in terms of specifics to justify your conclusions on the most likely cause when a 30yo dies from a heart attack. If you care enough to look it up other places, I’ll be happy to read it

 

I didn't make any conclusions c-poop. You did.

 

This one has <20% of heart attack patients under the age of 40 using drugs https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/03/190307081026.htm

[connorp]

I didn't make any conclusions c-poop. You did.

 

I would call it more of an observation.

[connorp]

“However, the youngest patients were more likely to report substance abuse, including marijuana and cocaine (17.9 percent vs. 9.3 percent, respectively), but had less alcohol use.”

 

So your study assumes that a person will say “yes doctor, I use heroin”

[connorp]

Give me some autopsy data or gtfo Jim

[Jimcanuck]

Give me some autopsy data or gtfo Jim

 

Probably shows up in normal blood sample analysis done for every heart attack patient

[connorp]

Probably shows up in normal blood sample analysis done for every heart attack patient

 

I’d retort but I have respect for the board and we already muddied up the unrelated thread w/nonsense

[Boxcar]

I’d retort but I have respect for the board and we already muddied up the unrelated thread w/nonsense

 

You guys need to hold hands

 

And then jump off a bridge together

[glory]

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-dodgers-p-price-gives-170216875.html

 

Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher David Price will gift $1,000 to each of the players in the team's minor-league system, MLB writer Francys Romero reported.

 

Price is a good dude.