Around Baseball 2020

[Brownie19]

According to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic, Major League Baseball has agreed with the MLBPA to grant a full year of service time to players in 2020 regardless of how many games the schedule includes.

Rosenthal adds, however, that the two sides "have agreed to table discussions on how much service time the players would receive" if the worst-case scenario plays out and the 2020 season has to be canceled entirely.

[Jimcanuck]

According to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic, Major League Baseball has agreed with the MLBPA to grant a full year of service time to players in 2020 regardless of how many games the schedule includes.

Rosenthal adds, however, that the two sides "have agreed to table discussions on how much service time the players would receive" if the worst-case scenario plays out and the 2020 season has to be canceled entirely.

 

For Force Majeure situations, typically Contracts specify the Owner is wholly or primarily responsible for the damages.

[bronson44]

MLB should listen to this man. This sounds pretty cool to me. Plus Toronto would get some playoff games.

[z3r0s]

Out of the box solutions should be considered! That would be cool.

[Jimcanuck]

If baseball can find a way to play the games, there is currently lots of programming room for sports on TV. Chance to bring in new fans.

[Jonn]

According to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic, Major League Baseball has agreed with the MLBPA to grant a full year of service time to players in 2020 regardless of how many games the schedule includes.

Rosenthal adds, however, that the two sides "have agreed to table discussions on how much service time the players would receive" if the worst-case scenario plays out and the 2020 season has to be canceled entirely.

 

Normally I’m on the players side in issues like this... but this is ********. You’re arguing for something that you didn’t earn. Look around the whole world is on pause. Businesses not making any money and people basically out of work. To sit here and selfishly argue service time is baffling to me and I hope MLB doesn’t forfeit to these demands.

 

If anything all salaries should be on freeze until a Baseball season is resumed. You should get service time when you play Baseball games. Not be catered to when the whole world is in flux. Take a step back and take a look at the bigger picture. Do you think I’m getting a Christmas bonus this year? No. Do I expect one god no I will be happy if I maintain my job through this Pandemic. MLBPA can suck a fat cock.

[Jimcanuck]

Normally I’m on the players side in issues like this... but this is ********. You’re arguing for something that you didn’t earn. Look around the whole world is on pause. Businesses not making any money and people basically out of work. To sit here and selfishly argue service time is baffling to me and I hope MLB doesn’t forfeit to these demands.

 

If anything all salaries should be on freeze until a Baseball season is resumed. You should get service time when you play Baseball games. Not be catered to when the whole world is in flux. Take a step back and take a look at the bigger picture. Do you think I’m getting a Christmas bonus this year? No. Do I expect one god no I will be happy if I maintain my job through this Pandemic. MLBPA can suck a fat cock.

 

Tell it to the judge. Players incur future earnings damage if the service time clock stops.

Edited March 25, 2020 by Jimcanuck

[Laika]

Lawyer JimCanuk here to tell everybody something that is probably wrong.

 

Can a mod delete my account until Covid19 is gone?

[Jimcanuck]

Lawyer JimCanuk here to tell everybody something that is probably wrong.

 

Can a mod delete my account until Covid19 is gone?

 

Bite me. I deal with this stuff every day.

[glory]

I like the idea of a neutral site World Series. Would allow cities to bid on it, get more sponsors, more money, etc. Whether the game is big enough to get sell out crowds for 7 games that may not involve the local team is debatable, MLB isn’t as mainstream as it used to be and is more successful regionally, but why not test it out now while there is an excuse to do it? If it fails then blame it on Covid and go back to normal in 2021. If it works, then you have a potential revenue generating avenue to go to in the future. An entire week of the World Series in one location means the sky is the limit as far as marketing potential. Tourists, more national exposure, etc.

 

I hope MLB will at least be creative this season. They don’t have to cram in all 162 games, especially if they start in July, but try something different even if diehards hate it. If there was ever a time to experiment, it’s now.

[glory]

Normally I’m on the players side in issues like this... but this is ********. You’re arguing for something that you didn’t earn. Look around the whole world is on pause. Businesses not making any money and people basically out of work. To sit here and selfishly argue service time is baffling to me and I hope MLB doesn’t forfeit to these demands.

 

If anything all salaries should be on freeze until a Baseball season is resumed. You should get service time when you play Baseball games. Not be catered to when the whole world is in flux. Take a step back and take a look at the bigger picture. Do you think I’m getting a Christmas bonus this year? No. Do I expect one god no I will be happy if I maintain my job through this Pandemic. MLBPA can suck a fat cock.

 

Service time is a pretty big deal for players. Going into free agency one year later might as well be a life time for players who already spend the first six years of their careers being paid well below their value (never mind the years in the minors where they make "cashier at grocery store" level money). Betts, Lindor, etc, are salivating to become free agents so they can make money comparable to their actual talent.

 

I don't like it because chances are we are going to lose a huge chunk of one of our precious Vlad/Bo/Biggio years without getting it back in the future, but it's the fair thing to do for the players. They shouldn't be expecting all of their salaries to be paid if MLB is not generating revenue until June/July, but service time is a reasonable ask on their part. Of course, with 2020 likely to see a huge drop in league revenue, becoming a free agent this winter doesn't sound all that appealing to me. If Betts thought he was getting $400m before, it probably won't be happening now. Seems like a lot of FA's will accept the QO if anything, probably not Betts, but players like Stroman who probably thought they'd get $100m.

[Laika]

Bite me. I deal with this stuff every day.

 

In a context that has nothing to do with this one.

 

Most act of god provisions have an operating clause which essentially says that no party is responsible for their failure to perform the contract if that failure was caused by an act of god.

 

I don't think the MLB CBA has any real force majeure clause. The uniform player contract within the CBA has one emergency clause which says the Commissioner can suspend the contract during any national emergency.

 

Governmental Regulation–National Emergency

11. This contract is subject to federal or state legislation, regulations,

executive or other official orders or other governmental action, now or

hereafter in effect respecting military, naval, air or other governmental

service, which may directly or indirectly affect the Player, Club or the

League and subject also to the right of the Commissioner to suspend

the operation of this contract during any national emergency during

which Major League Baseball is not played.

[Jimcanuck]

In a context that has nothing to do with this one.

 

Most act of god provisions have an operating clause which essentially says that no party is responsible for their failure to perform the contract if that failure was caused by an act of god.

 

I don't think the MLB CBA has any real force majeure clause. The uniform player contract within the CBA has one emergency clause which says the Commissioner can suspend the contract during any national emergency.

 

Governmental Regulation–National Emergency

11. This contract is subject to federal or state legislation, regulations,

executive or other official orders or other governmental action, now or

hereafter in effect respecting military, naval, air or other governmental

service, which may directly or indirectly affect the Player, Club or the

League and subject also to the right of the Commissioner to suspend

the operation of this contract during any national emergency during

which Major League Baseball is not played.

 

That's fine. Basically, the players should not incur earnings losses as a result of the virus, which stopping the service clock would do. Law of frustration or whatever.....

[Laika]

So you are wrong and will bite yourself?

[Jimcanuck]

So you are wrong and will bite yourself?

 

No, because I'm not wrong.

[Laika]

Jim is the new Grant

 

I am trying to figure out how to delete my account but I can't see the button. Do I need to ask a mod to kill me?

[BTS]

Jim is the new Grant

 

I am trying to figure out how to delete my account but I can't see the button. Do I need to ask a mod to kill me?

 

I think the only options are taking a ban, or permanently nuking the account and all of your posts, but I'm pretty sure you don't want either of those things.

[Laika]

I think the only options are taking a ban, or permanently nuking the account and all of your posts, but I'm pretty sure you don't want either of those things.

 

there is nothing left for me to do here. i am ready to transcend this place. please permaban me.

[BTS]

there is nothing left for me to do here. i am ready to transcend this place. please permaban me.

 

Done. We'll see you in a few days/weeks when you realize that there's no escaping this place.

[Jimcanuck]

It's too bad Laika is having problems handling covid-19. A good poster.

[TheHurl]

If baseball can find a way to play the games, there is currently lots of programming room for sports on TV. Chance to bring in new fans.

 

I just don't think neutral site games will help the game...unless they are the only game on TV.

[Krylian]

It's too bad Laika is having problems handling covid-19. A good poster.

 

He's handling it just fine.

[TheHurl]

I think the only options are taking a ban, or permanently nuking the account and all of your posts, but I'm pretty sure you don't want either of those things.

 

We would lose the DDL thread if we delete him. While it was funny when I did it to the BBDL, we can't afford to have it happen to a real thread

[Boxcar]

Bite me. I deal with this stuff every day.

 

Asphalt by day, civil litigator by night. Is there anything this man can't do?

[Jimcanuck]

Asphalt by day, civil litigator by night. Is there anything this man can't do?

 

I made a career switch a few years ago, man. Construction claims is easy money.

[Spanky__99]

Happy Opening Day! Errr... lots of past baseball viewable...

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/opening-day-at-home

 

Starts 8:30 AM ET

[G-Snarls]

How do contracts work this season? Teams aren't bringing in any money. Do players get paid, do teams lose a year of control in the process?

 

Steve Philips discussed this this morning on MLB Netowrk radio.

Owners and the MLBPA are negotiating right now.

 

Edited March 26, 2020 by G-Snarls

[BTS]

Happy Opening Day! Errr... lots of past baseball viewable...

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/opening-day-at-home

 

Starts 8:30 AM ET

 

I had today booked off work. Was planning to watch like 9 hours of baseball

[Spanky__99]

I had today booked off work. Was planning to watch like 9 hours of baseball

 

Well, at least they're showing some good games today. *silver linings*

 

Sad day, today is, really.

[BlueRocky]

Steve Philips discussed this this morning on MLB Netowrk radio.

Owners and the MLBPA are negotiating right now.

 

 

Doubleheaders galore + guaranteed full season of service time = inevitable Nate Pearson call-up?