General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[King]

King would be disappointed you don’t know him : ( I actually think he pitched Opening Night for the Giants in a leverage situation lol. I remember watching his debut for sure. He could end up factoring in here at some point.

He's been in our system forever lol. If you don't know him you aren't paying attention.

[BlueRocky]

Apparently someone named Dany Jimenez was claimed in the rule 5 draft from the Jays by the Giants, and has been returned.

 

I've literally never heard of that player before.

 

He was basically Danny Barnes 2.0 with + 2-4 MPH velo and a nasty curveball.

[Spanky99]

We've been in almost every game, and we've faced generally good pitching. I'm frustrated as f***, but nothing (other than the fact that Joe Panik should stop getting f***ing ABs) can be reasonably inferred from a sample size this small.

 

If we suck balls against the truly awful Red Sox over the next few games, then we have more to worry about.

 

Their pitching yes, they still have good bats. I see a sweep though...

[Spanky99]

We did play road games against the world champions, the NL East champions, and our old nemesis Tampa. So maybe 4-6 isn't all that bad.

 

We are also currently tied for 2nd place in AL East

 

We've been rogue all season, bro. Just saying... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Spanky99]

The only coach I actively like is Tim Leiper because he actually stands up for the players, and it always looks like he's ready to throw down with someone.

 

What you talking 'bout Willis?

 

I don't think Pete Walker sucks either.

[Spanky99]

Hire Ray Searage? The guy who couldn't get anything out of Gerrit Cole and Tyler Glasnow? Yeah he made 35 year old AJ Burnett good again and turned around low 30s JA Happ, but is that really the kind of pitching coach we want to develop guys like Nate Pearson? Does Pete Walker suck because Marcus Stroman and Aaron Sanchez are uncoachable douches? Does he not get some credit for Sanchez's one outlier good year, or Osuna turning into a star closer fresh out of A+? Romano, Kay, Hatch, Thornton, Borucki all look like young serviceable pitchers, with most of them being fringy prospects to start with, does Pete Walker get no credit in that? What about Dolis looking better in his last couple of appearances after beginning the year looking like he would be outmatched by AAA hitting? MAYBE PETE WALKER FIXED HIM.

 

The truth is we know nothing about how much impact the major league coaching staff has had on these players, we can see that our manager consistently makes questionable/bad decisions so that's someone I can agree probably has to go. As for windmill Rivera, yeah he's awful at sending runners, but we've seen improvements on defense from Bichette and Biggio after being declared below average defenders in the minors. Not sure who works with the outfielders but that coach has made Teoscar look less terrible and Gurriel go from having the yips to playing a passable LF with few reps. How much is that on the coaching staff and how much is it on the players themselves to improve?

 

People are making reactionary claims after the huge sample size of 10 games in a shitshow of a season (we're only 4-6 btw lol, after facing good teams like Tampa and Atlanta with the reigning WS champs mixed in there) where the Marlins are currently leading the NL East by a landslide. Everyone needs to calm the f*** down.

 

Holy f*** can you stop freaking out after a 10 game sample size? We're not the Yankees right now and 21 year old Vlad is not a bust after one season's worth of PAs. Thus far we've faced the #1 pitching staff in the league last season (Tampa), the #18 one in Atlanta who threw out a slew of young talented pitchers, and the #5 pitching staff who despite missing out on some of their top pitchers still featured an appearance from HoF Max Scherzer. Unless you expected this offense to be the Yankees offense it's not that hard to imagine struggling after that.

 

I wonder if in the Austin Martin circlejerk that was happening around these parts anyone noticed that he's 5 days younger than Vlad Jr. The guy who just got drafted and we're all excited to become our 3B/CF of the future is 5 days younger than the generational talent potential slugger Vladimir Guerrero Jr. who will have had enough time to struggle and make adjustments at the highest level of baseball by the time the former debuts and still be his contemporary.

 

Yes Org, tell 'em!!!

[Boxcar]

Holy f*** can you stop freaking out after a 10 game sample size? We're not the Yankees right now and 21 year old Vlad is not a bust after one season's worth of PAs. Thus far we've faced the #1 pitching staff in the league last season (Tampa), the #18 one in Atlanta who threw out a slew of young talented pitchers, and the #5 pitching staff who despite missing out on some of their top pitchers still featured an appearance from HoF Max Scherzer. Unless you expected this offense to be the Yankees offense it's not that hard to imagine struggling after that.

 

Can you stop freaking out about people freaking out?

[Boxcar]

Yes Org, tell 'em!!!

 

Do you have a singular opinion of your own?

[Spanky99]

Do you have a singular opinion of your own?

 

Yes, plenty, Boxcar8.

[Boxcar]

Yes, plenty, Boxcar8.

 

You seem to just agree with the prevailing consensus opinion, no matter what.

[Ex Player]

Its "Beat it" by Michael Jackson in case you missed it

 

[Jonn]

Its "Beat it" by Michael Jackson in case you missed it

 

 

That’s just going to hang around for him forever. Poor guy. I can’t imagine how he couldn’t play that off somehow.

[Spanky99]

You seem to just agree with the prevailing consensus opinion, no matter what.

 

Since 2003, you hadn't payed enough attention, there's no reason to regurgitate Org's outlook, he's correct. Your assumption floats in a toilet to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[TheDragon]

Its "Beat it" by Michael Jackson in case you missed it

 

 

Impossible not to like this

[BlueRocky]

Sportsnet feature, Fast Forward: The Nate Pearson story:

[BlueRocky]

[Deadpool]

 

Alright, lets see if he allows 'em to get anywhere near 100 pitches...

[BlueRocky]

[Stangstag]

I guess they can leave the blue colouring and just repaint the logo/team name for the Bison’s next year

[Laika]

Looks like they did everything they could. Hopefully Randal Grichuk doesn't opt out! /s

[Krylian]

Looks like they did everything they could. Hopefully Randal Grichuk doesn't opt out! /s

 

Or...... Hopefully he does?

[Jonn]

Looks like they did everything they could. Hopefully Randal Grichuk doesn't opt out! /s

 

They should have made it worse so he did.

[Terminator]

[G-Snarls]

[Deadpool]

 

The "tunnel" is the biggest difference, that before shot looks like it belongs in a Saw movie...

[Boxcar]

Looks like they did everything they could. Hopefully Randal Grichuk doesn't opt out! /s

 

Is Grichuk a bizarro-Stroman-lite? He's not nearly good enough to be demanding certain standards since he's pretty close to being good enough to play in a AAA park on a regular basis.

[glory]

Looks like they did everything they could. Hopefully Randal Grichuk doesn't opt out! /s

 

Man, I kinda wish they kept it a dump so he did opt out.

[Boxcar]

tweets

 

Goddamn, that is an impressive amount of work in such a short amount of time

[Laika]

Is Grichuk a bizarro-Stroman-lite? He's not nearly good enough to be demanding certain standards since he's pretty close to being good enough to play in a AAA park on a regular basis.

 

He's smug in a very different but arguably more annoying (over time) way. At least Stroman is a legitimate quality SP.

[Orgfiller]

The "tunnel" is the biggest difference, that before shot looks like it belongs in a Saw movie...

 

While it was probably still a dump before, I'm pretty sure the "before" picture of the tunnel is with reparations already underway. Same with the destroyed "before" batting cages picture. But I'm no renovations expert.