Can Vladdy Stick?

[Krylian]

Since Vlad can't get the ball in the air when he isn't striking out we don't have many great Vladimir memories yet.. though the chopper down the first base line, and the one he got in the air that was caught with a nice play at 335 feet were kind of cool... but nothing like this

 

 

Snider > Vladdy

[Olerud363]

Snider > Vladdy

 

For a few more days at least.

 

When will Vladimir Guerrero JR have a higher career OPS then Travis Snider??

When will Vladimir Guerrero JR hava a higher career OPS then Michael Chavis??

 

More importantly

 

Will Vlad hit ball in the air soon?

Will he get his ground ball percentage below 70% ??

Will he get his grounder to fly ball ratio under 5.0 ??

 

Will he stop striking out every game??

 

Do the Umps hate him??

[polar bear]

Snider > Vladdy

 

Preferred Snider to be honest.

[Deadpool]

Preferred Snider to be honest.

 

This comment will not age well.

[TheHurl]

Jays hadn't really been burned by a high profile prospect failure until Snider.

 

Jays were coming off back to back WS and sitting with the #4, #5, #10 & #28 prospects in baseball. Jose Silva at 10 and Alex Gonzalez at 4 (Delgado was the 5 and Green was #28)

 

Snider never even hit top 5 actually. I think the only Jays ever to hit the top 5 (on the BA Pre-season list) are Gonzalez, Wells & Jr.

[Olerud363]

This comment will not age well.

 

Probably not but until we get some Valdimir bombs, or at least interestingly hard hit fly balls or something we will live in the past with Snider highlights.

 

Vladimir Guerrero JR has as of May 7th 2019

 

a) reportedly hit his choppers with high exit velocity

hit a tremendous chopper down the right field line for a double

c) hit a 335 foot fly ball down the left field line which hung up long enough that it was caught (nice catch).

 

Travis Snider has hit many balls hard, many booming drives, many high flies (though not as many as we wanted)

 

Here is his first MLB hit a 397 foot booming drive to left center in Yankee Stadium. If you listen closely you can hear Murph say "We told that f***er to pull it, little s*** didn't listen"

 

[Olerud363]

Jays were coming off back to back WS and sitting with the #4, #5, #10 & #28 prospects in baseball. Jose Silva at 10 and Alex Gonzalez at 4 (Delgado was the 5 and Green was #28)

 

Snider never even hit top 5 actually. I think the only Jays ever to hit the top 5 (on the BA Pre-season list) are Gonzalez, Wells & Jr.

 

Good point about Gonzalez. I totally forgot about him. He was rated higher than Jeter that year.

[Barkerfan23]

Sigh this read is depressing

[Olerud363]

Sigh this read is depressing

 

Good news bad news:

 

Bad news first: Vlad's numbers are not distinguishable from Alen Hansons. They are the same. Very much the same.

 

Good news: Vlad's exit velocities are much higher than Hanson's. Hanson is only competive with Vlad because he gets the ball in the air more.

 

I guess it's hard to tell from the game feed, but when he doesn't strike out he's hitting fearsome choppers at the infielders... fearsome choppers.

[Brownie19]

 

Here is his first MLB hit a 397 foot booming drive to left center in Yankee Stadium. If you listen closely you can hear Murph say "We told that f***er to pull it, little s*** didn't listen"

 

 

Did Michael J Fox take that video? f***.

[connorp]

Jays were coming off back to back WS and sitting with the #4, #5, #10 & #28 prospects in baseball. Jose Silva at 10 and Alex Gonzalez at 4 (Delgado was the 5 and Green was #28)

 

Snider never even hit top 5 actually. I think the only Jays ever to hit the top 5 (on the BA Pre-season list) are Gonzalez, Wells & Jr.

 

How high did Junior Felix get. I remember being excited by him when he came up

[Olerud363]

How high did Junior Felix get. I remember being excited by him when he came up

 

I don't remember how high he got... I remember he hit a homerun his first game (first pitch I think) and started off hot. I also remember an inside the park grand slam...

 

Looking at bbref, his minor league numbers seem mediocre. So maybe the hype was mostly because of his hot start. He did well in 1990 too. Then was traded for Devo. I remember there being questions about his age.

[Krylian]

I don't remember how high he got... I remember he hit a homerun his first game (first pitch I think) and started off hot. I also remember an inside the park grand slam...

 

Looking at bbref, his minor league numbers seem mediocre. So maybe the hype was mostly because of his hot start. He did well in 1990 too. Then was traded for Devo. I remember there being questions about his age.

 

Junior Felix was a marginal prospect that had a nice hot start and a solid first couple of seasons. Gillick knew what he was and the highlight for me was trading him for Devo.

[connorp]

Yeah maybe it was the hot start.

[Krylian]

Someone should start the 'When will Vladdy get sent back down' thread.

 

Pick the date and time that it's announced.

[Brownie19]

This start is sure going to help the Blue Jays when Vladdy sues them for service time manipulation. Maybe Shatkins was right that he needed more seasoning in the minors.

[Olerud363]

Someone should start the 'When will Vladdy get sent back down' thread.

 

Pick the date and time that it's announced.

 

Tie breaker is when he returns.

 

Sent down May 12th 4:35 p.m.

 

Return Date September 1st.

 

Tie Breaker 2 Predict the Rookie of the Year that gets the stats we wish Vlad had...

 

Michael Chavis - .320 29 91

[Plat]

That's why you shouldn't hype up a prospect like he got hyped up, I don't care how much of a phenom he is, it works in basketball maybe hockey/football, not in baseball.

 

I mean he got a standing ovation at a Raptor playoff game after his first professional game, c'mon now...like stop putting so much pressure on the kid.

[Krylian]

That's why you shouldn't hype up a prospect like he got hyped up, I don't care how much of a phenom he is, it works in basketball maybe hockey/football, not in baseball.

 

I mean he got a standing ovation at a Raptor playoff game after his first professional game, c'mon now...like stop putting so much pressure on the kid.

 

It's all in how your receive it.

 

He can look at it as 'everyone's hopes and dreams are resting on my ability to perform and elevate the performance of this team' or 'Wow. These are some super supportive fans that are welcoming me to the city and team and will be behind me.'

[Deadpool]

That's why you shouldn't hype up a prospect like he got hyped up, I don't care how much of a phenom he is, it works in basketball maybe hockey/football, not in baseball.

 

I mean he got a standing ovation at a Raptor playoff game after his first professional game, c'mon now...like stop putting so much pressure on the kid.

 

You don't think there was pressure on him to perform in the minors where he destroyed every baseball he even looked at?

[Bobthe4th]

You don't think there was pressure on him to perform in the minors where he destroyed every baseball he even looked at?

 

As much as I don't think Vlad's early issues are a result of being over hyped, you can't compare the pressure of playing in the minors to the majors. Everything is under more scrutiny, there are multiple cameras and replays of everything you do etc etc.

[Deadpool]

As much as I don't think Vlad's early issues are a result of being over hyped, you can't compare the pressure of playing in the minors to the majors. Everything is under more scrutiny, there are multiple cameras and replays of everything you do etc etc.

 

Yeah, but it's not like he went from 0% pressure to 100% pressure, more like 85% to 100%. He's been dealing with hype, pressure, and scrutiny his whole life.

[Bobthe4th]

Yeah, but it's not like he went from 0% pressure to 100% pressure, more like 85% to 100%. He's been dealing with hype, pressure, and scrutiny his whole life.

 

Yes that’s fair.

[Jonn]

I wonder how more time they will give Latin Travis Snider before sending him back down.

[Olerud363]

I wonder how more time they will give Latin Travis Snider before sending him back down.

 

That's no fair to Travis Snider.

 

Travis Snider wasn't all that but got a few in the air like this one.

 

Do you think Vlad will do anything different tonight other than a strike out or 2 and a chopper or two?? Will one of the choppers get through tonight??

 

With his ground ball rate do you think they'll start playing 5 infielders on him??

[Angrioter]

Vladdy will face his 1st real pitcher tonight. Berrios is tough

[Plat]

It's all in how your receive it.

 

He can look at it as 'everyone's hopes and dreams are resting on my ability to perform and elevate the performance of this team' or 'Wow. These are some super supportive fans that are welcoming me to the city and team and will be behind me.'

 

Well right now its looking like he's thinking its the former.

[Plat]

Yeah, but it's not like he went from 0% pressure to 100% pressure, more like 85% to 100%. He's been dealing with hype, pressure, and scrutiny his whole life.

 

Kind of different when you actually get to the big stage where you have been looking to get to all of your life, then to add in the enormous amount of hype and media spotlight and party/gatherings for you then its a recipe for a slow start...none of it was his fault though, the media just wanted to cash in on his arrival.

 

I am fully confident that when the hype wears off and he gets fully accustomed to the big leagues, he will mash like he mashed the minor leagues.

[Daniel Labude]

Kind of different when you actually get to the big stage where you have been looking to get to all of your life, then to add in the enormous amount of hype and media spotlight and party/gatherings for you then its a recipe for a slow start...none of it was his fault though, the media just wanted to cash in on his arrival.

 

I am fully confident that when the hype wears off and he gets fully accustomed to the big leagues, he will mash like he mashed the minor leagues.

 

When he made the jump from A+ to AA he was slow to get going. Once he got acclimated a couple weeks in he blew up and started destroying the ball

[John_Havok]

Kind of different when you actually get to the big stage where you have been looking to get to all of your life, then to add in the enormous amount of hype and media spotlight and party/gatherings for you then its a recipe for a slow start...none of it was his fault though, the media just wanted to cash in on his arrival.

 

I am fully confident that when the hype wears off and he gets fully accustomed to the big leagues, he will mash like he mashed the minor leagues.

 

Not sure what the fuss is about. He's got the 4th lowest swinging strike rate on the team at like 9% and his exit velocity is still very good. The 1 big outlier is his ground ball rate which is just .... stupid high and obviously wont continue, nor will a .217 babip. When this all corrects itself it will be a wonderful show to watch.