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If Atkins is being sincere in the below blurb, then I doubt he's looking at Marte.

 

In theory we have surplus catching prospects, so if we do make any prospect trades that's where we should be subtracting from. But yeah, you're probably right.

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Ownership has also publicly stated that they can't afford to keep both Strasburg and Rendon

 

Mark Lerner is worth over $5billion dollars.

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Mark Lerner is worth over $5billion dollars.

 

And his team just won the WS. He won't completely cheap out obviously.

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And his team just won the WS. He won't completely cheap out obviously.

 

Yeah, I see Boras has already responded too.

 

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Toronto is kind of being pinched out of the upper and middle portions of the free agent SP market. Cole and Strasburg are not on the table, Ryu probably isn't, Bumgarner is a scary thought, and who knows about Keuchel.

 

There are lots of options left - dozens of veteran starting pitchers looking for teams. A good portion of them are reclamation project types though. If you sort by projected WAR, immediately after Bumgarner you get to guys like Porcello, Wood, Martin Perez - guys all coming off of mediocre or bad seasons. There is a lonnnnng list of these guys though. Like I said, dozens and dozens.

 

Toronto is going to be in the Dollarama free agent SP market in all likelihood, picking their favourite two reclamation project dudes.

 

Rick Porcello SP R R BOS 31 10.170 1.8 1.9 3 $36.0M $12.0M

Martín Pérez SP L L MIN 29 7.038 1.9 1.9

Kevin Gausman SP/RP L R CIN 29 5.151 1.6 1.7

Alex Wood SP R L CIN 29 6.123 -0.2 1.7

Homer Bailey SP R R OAK 34 11.017 2.9 1.6 1 $5.0M $5.0M

Tanner Roark SP R R OAK 33 6.055 2.0 1.6 2 $20.0M $10.0M

Wade Miley SP L L HOU 33 8.025 2.0 1.6 2 $16.0M $8.0M

Brett Anderson SP L L OAK 32 10.135 2.0 1.5 1 $5.0M $5.0M

Gio Gonzalez SP R L MIL 34 10.146 1.4 1.5 2 $20.0M $10.0M

Rich Hill SP L L LAD 40 10.127 0.9 1.4 1 $10.0M $10.0M

Jordan Lyles SP R R MIL 29 8.002 1.6 1.4 2 $12.0M $6.0M

Iván Nova SP R R CHW 33 9.024 2.0 1.3 2 $14.3M $7.2M

Jhoulys Chacín SP R R BOS 32 9.054 -0.1 1.2 1 $4.0M $4.0M

Matt Moore SP L L DET 31 8.000 0.5 0.9 1 $2.0M $2.0M

Michael Wacha SP R R STL 28 6.062 -0.2 0.9

Jimmy Nelson SP R R MIL 31 5.107 -0.1 0.9

Taijuan Walker SP R R ARI 27 5.142 0.0 0.9

Drew Smyly SP L L PHI 31 7.143 -0.3 0.8 1 $3.0M $3.0M

Félix Hernández SP R R SEA 34 14.060 -0.1 0.8 1 $2.5M $2.5M

Jason Vargas SP L L PHI 37 12.114 1.8 0.8

Clay Buchholz SP L R TOR 35 11.021 0.1 0.6 1 $4.5M $4.5M

Tyson Ross SP R R DET 33 8.118 -0.0 0.6

Clayton Richard SP/RP L L TOR 36 9.160 -0.2 0.6 1 $2.0M $2.0M

Robbie Erlin SP/RP R L SDP 29 5.045 0.5 0.6

Andrew Cashner SP/RP R R BOS 33 9.126 1.8 0.6

Collin McHugh SP/RP R R HOU 33 6.085 0.5 0.6 2 $10.0M $5.0M

Aaron Sanchez SP R R HOU 27 5.069 0.8 0.5

Julio Teheran SP R R ATL 29 7.062 1.6 0.5

Josh Lindblom SP R R KBO 33 1.151 0.4 2 $8.5M $4.3M

Cody Anderson SP R R CLE 29 3.116 0.1 0.4

Jesse Hahn SP R R KCR 30 4.067 -0.1 0.4

Matt Harvey SP R R OAK 31 7.016 -0.3 0.4

Chad Bettis SP/RP R R COL 31 5.096 0.1 0.3

Jeremy Hellickson SP R R WSN 33 9.041 0.1 0.3

Edinson Vólquez SP/RP R R TEX 36 11.059 -0.2 0.3

Wade LeBlanc SP L L SEA 35 6.131 -0.3 0.3

Derek Holland RP/SP S L CHC 33 10.105 -1.0 0.3

Tommy Milone SP L L SEA 33 6.113 0.1 0.2

Trevor Cahill SP/RP R R LAA 32 10.098 -0.8 0.2

Shelby Miller SP R R TEX 29 6.093 -0.2 0.2

Ross Detwiler SP/RP R L CHW 34 7.011 -0.6 0.2

Ervin Santana SP R R NYM 37 13.123 -0.4 0.1

Jerad Eickhoff SP/RP R R PHI 29 4.028 -0.4 0.1

Wei-Yin Chen SP R L MIA 34 8.000 -0.4 0.1

Edwin Jackson SP R R DET 36 12.158 -1.1 0.1

Marco Estrada SP R R OAK 36 10.018 -0.2 0.0

James Shields SP R R CHW 38 12.125 0.0

Steven Wright SP/RP R R BOS 35 5.012 -0.3 -0.0

Rico Garcia SP R R SFG 26 0.034 -0.3 -0.0

Kohl Stewart SP R R MIN 25 0.094 -0.2 -0.0

Josh Tomlin RP/SP R R ATL 35 9.033 0.2 -0.1

Danny Salazar SP/RP R R CLE 30 5.162 -0.2 -0.3

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Is Alex Wood healthy (at least ostensibly)? Signing him and limiting him to two times through as a long guy after someone like Font could work out very well.
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I’m fine with getting two of these guys. Gibson was my favourite target, but Wood, Roark, Bailey, Gausman, Smyly, Cahill, etc are all guys who will help raise the floor of this currently terrible rotation.
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Final deal is the Rays get Renfroe and Xavier Edwards, and the Padres get Pham and Jake Cronenworth.
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I thought we would discover an ace like Cleveland has done so many times with Kluber or Carrasco

 

Your posts have been even more terrible than usual this offseason. I recommend a valium.

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Your posts have been even more terrible than usual this offseason. I recommend a valium.

 

If only you were a mod and could do something about useless troll posters

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Final deal is the Rays get Renfroe and Xavier Edwards, and the Padres get Pham and Jake Cronenworth.

 

I wonder if the Padres will let Cronenworth pitch still. I still think you'll see a few more 2 from the 40 man for 1 deals from the Rays.

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Lol what are the Rangers doing

 

They are going no where with Gibson and Lyles

 

I guess the Jays were in on Lyles too

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Lol what are the Rangers doing

 

They are going no where with Gibson and Lyles

 

I guess the Jays were in on Lyles too

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I wonder if we are a match with a club like the clubs who have a lot of money tied up in starting pitching and are up against the luxury tax.

 

I dont yhink they would move a Darvish but I can see them moving a Quintana or Lester

 

Ofcourse I wouldn't want to give anything of significance it's just eating payroll

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Just came here to ask how much of Darvish’s 4/81 people would take on. You’d probably get him for nothing if you ate the entire deal.
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I wonder if we are a match with a club like the clubs who have a lot of money tied up in starting pitching and are up against the luxury tax.

 

I dont yhink they would move a Darvish but I can see them moving a Quintana or Lester

 

Ofcourse I wouldn't want to give anything of significance it's just eating payroll

 

They should def consider this

 

Guys without no trade clauses or 10/5 rights

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I wonder if we are a match with a club like the clubs who have a lot of money tied up in starting pitching and are up against the luxury tax.

 

I dont yhink they would move a Darvish but I can see them moving a Quintana or Lester

 

Ofcourse I wouldn't want to give anything of significance it's just eating payroll

 

They should def consider this

 

Guys without no trade clauses or 10/5 rights

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Just came here to ask how much of Darvish’s 4/81 people would take on. You’d probably get him for nothing if you ate the entire deal.

 

I'd probably go as far as actually giving a B/C+ prospect to take on Darvish's contract.

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Just came here to ask how much of Darvish’s 4/81 people would take on. You’d probably get him for nothing if you ate the entire deal.

 

Yeah, for sure. Was wondering what you guys were talking about, till I went to MLBTR.

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Yankees reportedly have a 245million 7 year offer on the table for Cole.

 

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but yeeesh.

 

Who'd you hear that from? That won't get it done, I don't think.

 

Found it...

 

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Yankees reportedly have a 245million 7 year offer on the table for Cole.

 

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but yeeesh.

 

Wow

 

Would love to see them sign him and him magically lose it after leaving Houston

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