General 2019 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[jmomcc]

It let me accept Deivi Garcia + Luis Gil + Roansy Contreras for Stroman. Yes, please!

 

That seems pretty decent. It isn’t a Gleyber Torres type haul but they prob don’t exist any more.

[glory]

Yeah while I'd be scared at the thought of trading Stroman for all pitching prospects, a package of Garcia/Contreras/Gil is probably fair. Not sure Cashman would trade all of that, he's usually pretty stingy trading prospects, but he knows the Yankees have a window right now and the Astros want Stro too, so maybe he'll bend a bit.

 

As long as it's not Clint Frazier coming back, I'm good.

[Ray]

It’s time to option Drury. He’s been tinkering with his swing all season and hasn’t really had much playing time recently. It may just be a case of giving him everyday playing time to see what works and what doesn’t, but not in the major leagues.

 

Option Drury, call up Bichette, Galvis moves to 2nd.

[DigitalRock]

Jansen must be the unluckiest hitter in baseball.

[Bobthe4th]

It’s time to option Drury. He’s been tinkering with his swing all season and hasn’t really had much playing time recently. It may just be a case of giving him everyday playing time to see what works and what doesn’t, but not in the major leagues.

 

Option Drury, call up Bichette, Galvis moves to 2nd.

 

You mean move Galvis to the utility infield role that Drury is doing right? Biggio starting every day is more important than trying to keep Galvis’ trade value up.

[Brownie19]

That is correct.

[Ray]

You mean move Galvis to the utility infield role that Drury is doing right? Biggio starting every day is more important than trying to keep Galvis’ trade value up.

 

I'm not really campaigning to get Biggio out of the lineup. Move Biggio to RF or 1B before Galvis is traded. Biggio will likely get tons of reps at 2B down the stretch once Galvis is moved.

[SaskJaysFan_2]

You mean move Galvis to the utility infield role that Drury is doing right? Biggio starting every day is more important than trying to keep Galvis’ trade value up.

 

I move Galvis before the trade deadline, and immediately call up Bichette (barring injury).

 

I don't dick around with Galvis before then. He's the SS 100% up until he's traded.

[Ray]

Ken Giles ranks amongst qualified relievers:

 

4th in fWAR (1.5 fWAR)

6th in ERA (1.24)

1st in FIP (0.97)

3rd in xFIP (2.07)

4th in xwOBA (.224)

3rd in K/9 (15.83)

 

He on pace to have the best year of his career by far.

 

I know people are campaigning to keep him, but relievers are so extremely volatile and very few are consistent every season. Move him for a haul and sell high in my opinion.

[Krylian]

Never fall in love with relievers

[Carlos Danger]

Never fall in love with relievers

 

Or strippers... It won't end well...

[Bobthe4th]

Ken Giles ranks amongst qualified relievers:

 

4th in fWAR (1.5 fWAR)

6th in ERA (1.24)

1st in FIP (0.97)

3rd in xFIP (2.07)

4th in xwOBA (.224)

3rd in K/9 (15.83)

 

He on pace to have the best year of his career by far.

 

I know people are campaigning to keep him, but relievers are so extremely volatile and very few are consistent every season. Move him for a haul and sell high in my opinion.

 

Definitely.

 

Arguably Giles would be more valuable to a contender than Stroman. He’ll be one of the top available assets, so settling for anything less than a fantastic return would be unforgivable.

[Ray]

Rich Hill to the 60-day DL due to a forearm strain. Kenley Jansen has also been a little shaky this season.

 

Stroman + Giles as a package would make some sense to the Dodgers. They have a great farm system and top of the line player dev. Start with Gavin Lux as the main centerpiece and go from there imo.

[L54]

Ken Giles ranks amongst qualified relievers:

 

4th in fWAR (1.5 fWAR)

6th in ERA (1.24)

1st in FIP (0.97)

3rd in xFIP (2.07)

4th in xwOBA (.224)

3rd in K/9 (15.83)

 

He on pace to have the best year of his career by far.

 

I know people are campaigning to keep him, but relievers are so extremely volatile and very few are consistent every season. Move him for a haul and sell high in my opinion.

 

Sell sell sell! Giles should return a top 100 guy himself.

[Terminator]

New article on Fangraphs about Gurriel. His success this year is largely due to the fact that he's mashing Sliders. He's had 45 ABS end with sliders and 7 of them have been homers. Slashing .356/.383/.933 against sliders. Last year he couldn't hit them at all.

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/lourdes-gurriel-jr-destroyer-of-sliders/

[Ray]

New article on Fangraphs about Gurriel. His success this year is largely due to the fact that he's mashing Sliders. He's had 45 ABS end with sliders and 7 of them have been homers. Slashing .356/.383/.933 against sliders. Last year he couldn't hit them at all.

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/lourdes-gurriel-jr-destroyer-of-sliders/

 

 

As you might imagine, Gurriel hasn’t done this kind of damage against sliders without getting to pummel a couple of cement mixers, like this one from Brad Peacock:

 

gurribabip only hits bad pitches confirmed

[jmomcc]

New article on Fangraphs about Gurriel. His success this year is largely due to the fact that he's mashing Sliders. He's had 45 ABS end with sliders and 7 of them have been homers. Slashing .356/.383/.933 against sliders. Last year he couldn't hit them at all.

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/lourdes-gurriel-jr-destroyer-of-sliders/

 

I wonder if guys will start pounding fastball against him.

 

Being able to mash sliders is a great skill in 2019 mlb.

[Barkerfan23]

Rich Hill to the 60-day DL due to a forearm strain. Kenley Jansen has also been a little shaky this season.

 

Stroman + Giles as a package would make some sense to the Dodgers. They have a great farm system and top of the line player dev. Start with Gavin Lux as the main centerpiece and go from there imo.

 

I will need Dustin May as well. Then they can have both.

[Terminator]

 

Not ideal

[Ray]

I wonder if guys will start pounding fastball against him.

 

Being able to mash sliders is a great skill in 2019 mlb.

 

His zone breakdown actually paints a pretty good picture:

 

 

He seems to be absolutely crushing pitches in the middle and only struggling on pitches in parts of the zone where you could argue it's borderline (up and in, and low and away). And generally speaking, most great hitters also struggle with those pitches. Up and in has been Trouts only real weakness during his career. Part of it is that it's very hard to get the bat head up in the zone that quickly, so I wouldn't even necessarily hold that against him.

 

If he can improve low and away by going oppo and increase that walk rate a little more, we're looking at a pretty great/complete hitter. I'm encourage by the increase in walk rate and the fact that he's hitting pitches that he wasn't last year. He's adjusted to the league very well, and hopefully that continues with more PA.

[Bobthe4th]

Pompey is alive!

 

[jmomcc]

His zone breakdown actually paints a pretty good picture:

 

 

He seems to be absolutely crushing pitches in the middle and only struggling on pitches in parts of the zone where you could argue it's borderline (up and in, and low and away). And generally speaking, most great hitters also struggle with those pitches. Up and in has been Trouts only real weakness during his career. Part of it is that it's very hard to get the bat head up in the zone that quickly, so I wouldn't even necessarily hold that against him.

 

If he can improve low and away by going oppo and increase that walk rate a little more, we're looking at a pretty great/complete hitter. I'm encourage by the increase in walk rate and the fact that he's hitting pitches that he wasn't last year. He's adjusted to the league very well, and hopefully that continues with more PA.

 

That’s super encouraging. Him continuing this and Jansen turning it around would put a real shine on this season.

[glory]

 

[Barkerfan23]

 

 

You cant really option him down anymore, just let him bum around the entire year.

[Sorrow]

Option away!

[jays4life19]

Send the bum the Buffalo and convert him into a RP

[Terminator]

Option away!

 

Lol I can't wait. He's kind of a clown. I hated him ripping on Alen Hanson (who we all know was going to be demoted any minute) earlier this year like he's some ace who is only not winning because of the defense behind him.

[Terminator]

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

You cant really option him down anymore, just let him bum around the entire year.

 

FALSE ... The information you Saw says otherwise!!! Reading is Hard, can you do Math

Better ??? Lol

 

You pitch blister boy , till his arm falls off,

9 innings or 120 pitches and then as soon as his blister hits the dugout shuffle him off to Buffalo !!! The Ensuing Bitch Rant from Boras

Shall be EPIC !!! Lol

[wilko]

Not to put Mr. BlueBalls on blast as I'm a rookie, but I'm a little confused as to how he has survived in the forum when it seemed like it did everything in its power to ban every Dogg account possible. As a long time lurker, I found Dogg oddly entertaining, in the same way I enjoy a good Todd post.