General 2019 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[Orgfiller]

Idk, will Scott Boras take that if Sanchez is somewhat healthy next year?

 

Even if he stupidly advises Sanchez not to take it, no one is signing Aaron Sanchez for an $18M+ AAV or even a big multi-year contract with draft pick compensation/penalty included. So there's no point for us to even offer it because there's a strong chance he'd take it and we'd be paying Sanchez to be a ~2 WAR pitcher when he's barely replacement level.

[Terminator]

 

Holy s*** we suck

[Laika]

What are our thoughts on Biggio's defense so far? Fangraph's paints a pretty sad picture unfortunately.

 

His defense is a lot like Justin Trudeau - just not ready.

[BlueRocky]

What are our thoughts on Biggio's defense so far? Fangraph's paints a pretty sad picture unfortunately.

 

I’ll reiterate from before, keep him at 2B and stop moving him around.

[Ex Player]

I’ll reiterate from before, keep him at 2B and stop moving him around

Agreed.

 

I think eventually he'll turn out to be OK at 2nd. Maybe no Alomar but still better than average

[Terminator]

[Barkerfan23]

 

No thank you

 

don't need to keep getting Hosed by Cashman. When was the last time that guy made a bad deal, just look at what Seattle got for Paxton, Sheffield is barely a prospect any more

 

Lets aim towards weaker minds.

[glory]

If the Yankees get Stroman, then we are getting Frazier as the main piece. No thank you. Trade with any other team. Lots of teams in contention, especially in the NL.

[P2F]

Jacob Waguespack is starting tomorrow's game.

[BlueRocky]

[Abomination]

 

Not surprised. They definitely looked like they knew what was coming.

[keggy]

No thank you

 

don't need to keep getting Hosed by Cashman. When was the last time that guy made a bad deal, just look at what Seattle got for Paxton, Sheffield is barely a prospect any more

 

Lets aim towards weaker minds.

 

Ignoring context such as win curve, competitive window, etc., the team that gets the best player wins the trade. The Yankees are masters at using leverage to position themselves to acquire the best player. Trading Paxton for a guy who might turn into Paxton was considered by most in the industry as a light haul.

 

The last time the Yankees traded without leverage they traded Sonny Gray for a 40 FV outfielder in low-A.

 

The Jays need to acquire a prospect who has a good chance of being better than Stroman in order to win the trade. Collecting controllable 1-win players spread over multiple roster spots is a lateral move.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

If the Yankees get Stroman, then we are getting Frazier as the main piece. No thank you. Trade with any other team. Lots of teams in contention, especially in the NL.

 

That is a HARD NOOO to any trade with the Yankees ever, never NEVER !!!

 

Use them to Drive up your get or haul from another team is All .

 

I still keep looking at Texas, Milwaukee and Colorado and As better dance partners !

 

Part of me thinks Colorado might even like Sanchez more then we do especially with that starting staff they have and this year. !

[Abomination]

No thank you

 

don't need to keep getting Hosed by Cashman. When was the last time that guy made a bad deal, just look at what Seattle got for Paxton, Sheffield is barely a prospect any more

 

Cooper and Caleb Smith for King (who has a fractured elbow) and 250K in international bonus money was pretty bad.

[jmomcc]

 

I feel like this happened earlier in the season as well. I wonder if its still the arm slot.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

I feel like this happened earlier in the season as well. I wonder if its still the arm slot.

 

I think so as Well , but correctable lets hope

As he has I think surprised most has to just how good or effective he has been mostly

For us !

[Dick_Pole]

Here's a great article from BlueRocky about how totally unique and awesome Cavan Biggio is:

https://bluejaysaggr.com/go/159120

 

I think I just came reading this.

 

I'm still feeling sore from the Devon Travis fap articles/analysis during his rookie season and what could have been. I refuse to get excited over this guy until I know he can play more than 10 games a year.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

I’ll reiterate from before, keep him at 2B and stop moving him around.

 

I Feel the opposite Why not just keep him in RF where he plays Good already ???

[jmomcc]

I'm still feeling sore from the Devon Travis fap articles/analysis during his rookie season and what could have been. I refuse to get excited over this guy until I know he can play more than 10 games a year.

 

Devon Travis' purple patch where he was just mashing line drive doubles is one of my favorite periods of any recent jay. Dude could f***ing hit.

[P2F]

 

In a perfect world, I'd bang out a Danny Jansen article in the coming few days or so. We'll see what reality brings.

[jmomcc]

I don't know if anyone listens to effectively wild on here but a few eps ago they interviewed the guy who created the trade tool below.

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

 

It's pretty fun. It's also pretty conservative which probably reflects how front offices are trending. It's a work in process but fun to f*** around with.

 

It told me that stroman for frazier and perreira was close to fair which seems light to me. I will say that some of the values are off for me.. especially on first basemen.

[Terminator]

I don't know if anyone listens to effectively wild on here but a few eps ago they interviewed the guy who created the trade tool below.

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

 

It's pretty fun. It's also pretty conservative which probably reflects how front offices are trending. It's a work in process but fun to f*** around with.

 

It told me that stroman for frazier and perreira was close to fair which seems light to me. I will say that some of the values are off for me.. especially on first basemen.

 

God dammit I have work to do tomorrow

[P2F]

I don't know if anyone listens to effectively wild on here but a few eps ago they interviewed the guy who created the trade tool below.

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

 

It's pretty fun. It's also pretty conservative which probably reflects how front offices are trending. It's a work in process but fun to f*** around with.

 

It told me that stroman for frazier and perreira was close to fair which seems light to me. I will say that some of the values are off for me.. especially on first basemen.

 

It let me accept Deivi Garcia + Luis Gil + Roansy Contreras for Stroman. Yes, please!

[Terminator]

It let me accept Deivi Garcia + Luis Gil + Roansy Contreras for Stroman. Yes, please!

 

That's exactly the type of realistic deal we should be trying to get. A legit Top 100 prospect and a couple of 45s on top of it.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

It let me accept Deivi Garcia + Luis Gil + Roansy Contreras for Stroman. Yes, please!

 

Cool it approved my Texas trade too !!!

 

Smoak, Stroman and Grichuck

 

For Burke, Phillips Martinez and Deshields

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

wow it even accepted this trade also

Sanchez, foley to Colorado

 

To the Jays Hilliard,Decolati,Garcia, Bowden

[Spanky99]

Not surprised. They definitely looked like they knew what was coming.

 

It was neat that Trent and Pete took Freddy's advice, glad he picked it up.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

It was neat that Trent and Pete took Freddy's advice, glad he picked it up.

 

Yup I really like Galvis seems to have high Baseball I.Q not appreciated as much as he should for his contributions to this team !

 

If my Texas n Colorado Trade go though

Extend him and hustle and resign Sogard

Too!

They would be Damn nice bench bats and can spell the Rookies on days off !

 

Sure they could spell 1st and 3rd if need be

Also, Could they not ?

 

Think Galvis if I remember can play passable CF too !

[Spanky99]

Yup I really like Galvis seems to have high Baseball I.Q not appreciated as much as he should for his contributions to this team !

 

If my Texas n Colorado Trade go though

Extend him and hustle and resign Sogard

Too!

They would be Damn nice bench bats and can spell the Rookies on days off !

 

Sure they could spell 1st and 3rd if need be

Also, Could they not ?

 

Think Galvis if I remember can play passable CF too !

 

I've never heard about Galvis at CF, though? There's like a million people power that'd vote about your brain, lol

Edited July 3, 2019 by Spanky99

[SaskJaysFan_2]

I don't know if anyone listens to effectively wild on here but a few eps ago they interviewed the guy who created the trade tool below.

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

 

It's pretty fun. It's also pretty conservative which probably reflects how front offices are trending. It's a work in process but fun to f*** around with.

 

It told me that stroman for frazier and perreira was close to fair which seems light to me. I will say that some of the values are off for me.. especially on first basemen.

 

This is awesome! Thanks for sharing.