General 2019 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[Krylian]

Jays creeping up on a top notch draft pick

 

As of today we're only 2 games off of Baltimore and KC for the top pick. And even the worst NL team (Miami) has a better record.

 

KC and Baltimore feel like they're impossible to catch.

[Slade]

Without Stroman, Sanchez and Giles we would be worst than Baltimore or at the very least equal to them.

[Terminator]

Without Stroman, Sanchez and Giles we would be worst than Baltimore or at the very least equal to them.

 

Agreed

[Ex Player]

Without Stroman, Sanchez and Giles we would be worst than Baltimore or at the very least equal to them

Not sure what you see is so special about Sanchez this season, he has for the most part sucked s***

[Terminator]

Not sure what you see is so special about Sanchez this season, he has for the most part sucked s***

 

Replace him with another Edwin Jackson type and you'll see how it can be a lot worse.

[Grant77]

KC and Baltimore feel like they're impossible to catch.

 

We're not very far away. This is the worst Jays team of my life and the worst hitting team in franchise history as of a week or two ago.

[Terminator]

 

Lmao

[Laika]

Without Stroman, Sanchez and Giles we would be worst than Baltimore or at the very least equal to them.

 

I don't think they would quite be worse, but it would be close enough that if Baltimore gets a handful of lucky wins Toronto could end up beneath them

[Laika]

 

Lmao

 

Hilarious but not really true. They should just give Jordan Romano an extended look at this point or fully commit to an opener strategy in front of Gaviglio or Pannone.

[Terminator]

Hilarious but not really true. They should just give Jordan Romano an extended look at this point.

 

Montoyo should probably sugar coat things. If they are going to give Jackson another start just say "hes a savvy vet and we are going to give him a another chance to figure it out." Saying we have no one else is good for a laugh at least I guess.

 

But yeah Jackson is horrific and has no future in baseball let alone with this team. Literally anyone, like Romano, would be better.

[Slade]

I think they already converted Romano to a relief role. I see no reason why Patrick Murphy can't get a start he's already on the 40 man.

 

Even SRF, if they are commited to tank nation then just let SRF figure out his issues here and move Murphy up to AAA.

[Laika]

Bartolo Colon is a free agent

 

Not even kidding. f***ing sign him NOW.

[Barkerfan23]

 

Lmao

 

Wow

[Plat]

If the Jays are going to be THIS terrible this year, shoot, might as well lose as many games as you can...

[Jonn]

Bartolo Colon is a free agent

 

Not even kidding. f***ing sign him NOW.

 

Honestly why not.

[Spanky99]

Hilarious but not really true. They should just give Jordan Romano an extended look at this point or fully commit to an opener strategy in front of Gaviglio or Pannone.

 

Montoyo, had said pre-season that if they had to use an opener, that something would've had to go wrong with the SP, and here we are.

[jmomcc]

Maybe he meant something else or said more to put it in context, but I thought that was kind of a s***** thing to say about Jackson.

[Barkerfan23]

I hear the yankees are interested in Stroman

 

This is bad news.

[Terminator]

Maybe he meant something else or said more to put it in context, but I thought that was kind of a s***** thing to say about Jackson.

 

It was ridiculous on several levels and this was one of them. Dude is a 14 year vet or whatever it is.

[glory]

We really really need a pitcher in the upper levels to pan out.

 

Merryweather despite his age and injury actually seems like a half way decent prospect to me. Everything I read about him pre injury seems to suggest he was a bit of a sleeper in 2017 before he got hurt, and the velocity is clearly there (he was mid 90s as a SP before he got hurt IIRC). I'm not expecting much, but he looks more interesting than most of the P prospects in the minors right now.

[tbad]

Jays closing in on being the worst offense in baseball... may get there after today's game

[BTS]

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=&enddate=

 

We have the worst position players in baseball at 0.0 fWAR.

[5ToolPhenom]

And Sogard is the DH. Lol. Not like they could have put Vlad there, or anything.

 

I get that they want to give young players periodic off days due to the difference in the length of the season between the minors and majors, but DH is a thing, you know. Use it for good purposes, and not to get a utility IF in his twilight into the lineup.

 

Siddall was saying that he thinks it was to send a message to him for dogging on that drive off the wall and playing a routine groundout lazily into a hit.

[5ToolPhenom]

We're not very far away. This is the worst Jays team of my life and the worst hitting team in franchise history as of a week or two ago.

 

One thing's for sure, I've never watched a team who strikes out as much as these guys.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if there's worse in the league, that seems to be the trend of how baseball is going, but man, all the whiffing makes for some boring viewing.

[Ex Player]

One thing's for sure, I've never watched a team who strikes out as much as these guys.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if there's worse in the league, that seems to be the trend of how baseball is going, but man, all the whiffing makes for some boring viewing

We are in 10th place. Seattle is the worst:

 

http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/sort/strikeouts/type/expanded/order/true

[G-Snarls]

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=&enddate=

 

We have the worst position players in baseball at 0.0 fWAR.

 

It's beyond embarrassing at this point

[Orgfiller]

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=&enddate=

 

We have the worst position players in baseball at 0.0 fWAR.

 

It's incredible that Danny Jansen and his 45 wRC+ (lol) isn't even one of the players with negative WAR. In fact he's been roughly our fourth best position player, the guy has been a rock behind the dish.

 

We also have a league worst BABIP and it's not particularly close to second worst. Our line drive rate and fangraphs' hard hit% are both exactly around middle of the pack, although our soft hit% is quite high. It's not just that everyone is underperforming, we're also having historically awful luck which is turning an already terrible season into a gong show.

[Terminator]

How are the Royals out tanking us? They have guys having way better years.

 

Must be bad luck. If you compare the two teams according to WAR they have way better hitting, nearly 1 WAR's worth better pitching and a lot better fielding. Their RD is 10 runs better than ours as well.

[Terminator]

Are any of the tanking teams planning on trading their best pitchers like we are? Maybe the Giants trading MadBum?

 

We are right in the thick of the #1 pick race with Stroman and Giles, without them we might be able to get there.

[Ex Player]

We are also last in BA at .218: http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/sort/avg/order/true