Blue Jays Acquire RHP Trent Thornton

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[jaysguy44]

Thornton was the Astros 24th ranked prospect according to MLB.com.

[bronson44]

[Pendleton]

Seems like a lighter return than I would have hoped for at a quick glance

[Laika]

Mechanically, Thornton seems like a reliever.

 

Not sure about this. Toronto does have a roster crunch. But Diaz had four years of control left and he's a useful (league average) SS.

 

I guess we'll be seeing Gurriel at SS full time, and Travis is going nowhere this offseason.

[z3r0s]

tough to get too excited for Thornton. Hopefully the FO see something we don't.

If Diaz just wasn't in the plan I have no issue moving on from him tho.

[TheHurl]

 

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I loved him at UNC. After his Freshman year I thought he would be the "Next one"...he was not! He's obviously a guy that they think they can get through the rule 5 and it will free up a roster spot until April and Tulo can take his rightful spot on the 60 day. Says something as well about what they think of Lourdes.

[jaysblue]

Pretty light return if you ask me. Astros get their new Marwin Gonzalez.

[jaysguy44]

[P2F]

This is an awful return and you won't convince me otherwise.

 

This is the first time I can recall that I've been left scratching my head at a move this FO has made, so I'll give them that.

 

That's not to say that Thornton isn't a hidden gem, but it's not a good return for a league average SS with four years of control remaining.

[Daniel Labude]

Seems light for sure imo

[jaysblue]

 

Of course Mike Wilner thinks its a good trade!

[GreekFatAss]

Of course Mike Wilner thinks its a good trade!

 

Does anyone suck more dick in the media than Wilner?

[Corporal Valdal]

Does anyone suck more dick in the media than Wilner?

 

No and thats why I stopped listening to him 5 years ago. The guy is a f***ing clown man.

[jaysguy44]

Of course Mike Wilner thinks its a good trade!

 

Where did he say that?

[glory]

I know nothing about this guy so I won’t say it’s good or bad because I honestly have no idea, but definitely seems light. Diaz has four years of control left and is probably the best SS on the team right now.

 

I guess Travis, Gurriel, and Drury will be the IF to start the year.

[SAAviour]

This is an awful return and you won't convince me otherwise.

 

This is the first time I can recall that I've been left scratching my head at a move this FO has made, so I'll give them that.

 

That's not to say that Thornton isn't a hidden gem, but it's not a good return for a league average SS with four years of control remaining.

 

Agree completely.

[Grant77]

I don't understand the impetus for this trade. I'm not convinced that Gurriel Jr. is a good shortstop and we're pretty thin at that position now. Diaz was a solid performer at league minimum and they were obviously desperate to get rid of him. Very strange.

[tazsub3]

Seems light for sure imo

 

I would say it is a swing for the fences trade. Trade a position of strength, for a potential home run .

[jaysguy44]

[AdamGreenwood]

Terrible. 1.6 WAR last year, with a weak BABIP. Four years of control. Relatively young.

Pretty sure we could have found a way to keep him on the 25 and gotten a lot more value for hi, even if we're going with Gurriel at SS going forward.

[SAAviour]

I didn’t follow Cistulli ‘s fringe 5, how often did it come out? Could this be his first contribution? Unlikely as he likely hasn’t started yet...

[Jimcanuck]

The only way this deal makes sense is its somehow for some reason a delayed part of the osuna deal

[jays4life19]

Fire Carson Cistulli

[TheHurl]

Everyone should remember that we traded JB Woodman for Diaz. Maybe he's not as valuable in trade as we think.

[tercet]

So you trade a legit position player for a SP lottery ticket, to get Gurribabip more PA despite the fact that he is terrible?

[dineke]

Does anyone suck more dick in the media than Wilner?

 

Well that one time he criticized cito he got suspended. I think I remember him saying he's not going to be critical of anyone anymore to preserve his job.

[saskjayfan]

So you trade a legit position player for a SP lottery ticket, to get Gurribabip more PA despite the fact that he is terrible?

 

fire shatkins

[Orgfiller]

Everyone should remember that we traded JB Woodman for Diaz. Maybe he's not as valuable in trade as we think.

 

This was after he put up a replacement level season, not after a league average one where he can play a passable shortstop.

 

I'm very puzzled by this deal, it seems that even if they completely love Thornton that they should have been able to get more added to that deal. On the surface he's a low walks old starter who potentially discovered some strikeout ability this season, but not enough to blow you away given the age/level, and has a very weird delivery which I honestly don't really care about unless that's a detriment to his health for whatever reason.

[Laika]

I didn’t follow Cistulli ‘s fringe 5, how often did it come out? Could this be his first contribution? Unlikely as he likely hasn’t started yet...

 

It was a regular post on Fangraphs but I don't think Thornton ever made the list. His stats weren't good enough.